Your gripes with CoC II

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Context was given in the post (not sure why you took that quote out of context). But again:
Since Cait being present at the wedding is part of hooking her and Naiyana up and the threesome content is gated behind the wedding, she actually has to be there and making her the officiant is the easiest way to do that.
Right, well then, if we go by your logic it just moreso confirms it: The wedding is moreso about Cait and her fucking Naiyana than the PC actually getting married to Atani. The whole build up focuses on Cait and her thoughts (her advice, as well the jumping scene, and how the whole village looks at her etc etc), that the actual marriage scene doesn't seem to focus on the PC and Atani.

That's why if we could have Brother Sanders officiate, I'd hope it would actually be a wedding focused around the PC and Atani (seeing as, you know, it's their wedding), moreso than another Cait takes center-stage scene.
 

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Yeah it's just: that context is so dumb I think my brain hemorrhaged. Cait banging Naiyana is like a side paragraph in a multi-page-event.
Ah, I see. Well it's fine then, if that is once again the only bit you're prepared to address (the Cait-Naiyana bit), instead of everything else I put - then we can take this discussion privately.
In any event, I guess we should be used to Cait being shoehorned into the majority of scenes in the game; as that seems to be the gold standard.
 
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Wint3rRyd3r

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Wut? I don't see how Cait getting rawdogged by the mother of bride makes it all about her. And she's pretty much the deuteragonist, so she isn't really shoehorned into everything else. You can just not bring her places. She's not a requirement.

This more of VISIBLE CONFUSION than a gripe, but how did we skip strap-ons and feeldos and go straight to summonable cock made of solid magical energy? I feel like we skipped a few steps here. Did Anno, in her infinite horniness, drop a HL strap-on and Komari found it and made a magic version?
 

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Some people just can't share the spotlight smh... what these jokers don't get is that Cait is actually not forced on you, besides her guest appearance in the tutorial. You don't have to recruit her afterwards, and Brint can similarly be directed to the Frosthound when you first meet and never be recruited to the Companion roster proper afterward.

Gameplay is gonna be a slog because you need to somehow trudge all the way to the Winter City without a healer before Ryn gets the Queenly Raiment, but at least you'll have Tui to soak up the beatings for a turn or two? :colbert:
 
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This more of VISIBLE CONFUSION than a gripe, but how did we skip strap-ons and feeldos and go straight to summonable cock made of solid magical energy? I feel like we skipped a few steps here. Did Anno, in her infinite horniness, drop a HL strap-on and Komari found it and made a magic version?
As far as I know, it's mostly just to reduce the work needed from the writers. If you have a strap-on, a lot of stuff needs to be re-written to fit that. A blowjob scene wouldn't make sense for a strap-on, descriptions of "fill me up with your cum" and the pc shooting their goo inside characters need to be replaced, etc. The magicock, with its own magic faux-cum and tactile sensation, lets female-bodied champs access cock scenes without necessitating a boatload of extra work for the writers.
 

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As far as I know, it's mostly just to reduce the work needed from the writers. If you have a strap-on, a lot of stuff needs to be re-written to fit that. A blowjob scene wouldn't make sense for a strap-on, descriptions of "fill me up with your cum" and the pc shooting their goo inside characters need to be replaced, etc. The magicock, with its own magic faux-cum and tactile sensation, lets female-bodied champs access cock scenes without necessitating a boatload of extra work for the writers.

I know, I just think it's funny and weird we skipped a few steps to get to magical schlong. Strap-ons? Feeldos? Nah fuck that, we getting summoned dicks to perform Judgment Nut End and knock up up Kiyoko.

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I know, I just think it's funny and weird we skipped a few steps to get to magical schlong. Strap-ons? Feeldos?
I mean, dildos do exist in the setting and Janeen, Gweyr and Rune all have strapons, so it's not so much that we skipped them as the writers skipped them because it's so much easier that way. Though we may well get bespoke content in the future that's specifically designed for ghostlight cocks, now that they're implemented. Well, content for the Champ that is, since Cait already has scenes where she can use one and I know there are plans for Brienne as well.
 
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Alypia

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I know, I just think it's funny and weird we skipped a few steps to get to magical schlong. Strap-ons? Feeldos? Nah fuck that, we getting summoned dicks to perform Judgment Nut End and knock up up Kiyoko.

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Having fun with a certain fight where I am basically being disarmed/silenced to death. So I would like to see either a hard limit on the enemies ability to do something like that or at least allow us to punch the enemies to death.
a bit late to the party but, know that you should always find yourself having the means of dealing damage, if you are disarmed or silenced, then try using a leanan stone, or a ley grenade if you have, you only a re helpless because you didn't prepare for that eventuality.
 

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Some people just can't share the spotlight smh... what these jokers don't get is that Cait is actually not forced on you, besides her guest appearance in the tutorial. You don't have to recruit her afterwards, and Brint can similarly be directed to the Frosthound when you first meet and never be recruited to the Companion roster proper afterward.

Gameplay is gonna be a slog because you need to somehow trudge all the way to the Winter City without a healer before Ryn gets the Queenly Raiment, but at least you'll have Tui to soak up the beatings for a turn or two? :colbert:
I mean.
If you've just left her in the Frosthound this entire time without speaking to her then it's quite awkward to have her shoved in like that.
It's not as if Sanders would be unwilling to officiate a wedding.
 

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Idk if this has been said already but, i was sorely disappointed with the kitsune part of the game in general. I was super excited getting into the game for the kitsune men (the named ones) only to find out all but takahiro were non-sexable. Like, if I’m being honest, the named kitsune men are the only men in the game (other than quin, keros, and elyon) that im physically attracted to (Also sad that river isn’t sexable at least once or something)

the women in the game are good but in comparison, the sexable men feel very limited (especially ones i am interested in)

also having they/them option for the pc would be nice. The gendered nicknames and stuff is fine, i just personally want they/them pronouns in game.

(I’m still pretty new with interacting in forums so if I’m incredibly awkward, that is partially why)
 

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Bath scene at Cait's temple defaults back to the FrostHound and a lukewarm tin tub. Perfectly acceptable scene when the bath option is first introduced, but once a nice big temple is built with a room dedicated to the baths, scene really should take place there.
 

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I mean, dildos do exist in the setting and Janine, Gweyr and Rune all have strapons, so it's not so much that we skipped them as the writers skipped them because it's so much easier that way. Though we may well get bespoke content in the future that's specifically designed for ghostlight cocks, now that they're implemented. Well, content for the Champ that is, since Cait already has scenes where she can use one and I know there are plans for Brienne as well.
who's Janine?
 

Wint3rRyd3r

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It's way too late to gripe about this and it won't change anything, but I'm a bit disappointed that the level cap will be 10. I've bitched already in another thread, but it really doesn't feel balanced with that in mind. I realize it's early in act 2 and game balance can be changed but, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the encounters in the Rift and Undermountain don't feel balanced with that in mind. The hobgoblins and new imps are a prime example. They're obscenely durable and feel a lot stronger than what their level says. I had less issue with fighting Sigrune underleveled than these new encounters I'm overleveled for on paper. I get it's not supposed to be a power fantasy but I think earning some power should be allowed, especially when we know Kas is twice the level cap. With every piece of equipment being viable, except the rusty knife, levels and stat boosts are extremely important so i feel overwhelmed even on easy mode.

Less serious but fuck the foothills. We got harpies who like throwing themselves against a metaphorical brick wall, mercenaries who are too easily forgiven, Grettel doing her thing even though i can't give her a kid, and worst of all Byvernia. That smug smirk and that damn second wind ability. Fuck the foothills. Shar's cool though and I get the spiraled sword so it's got that going for it, which is nice.
 

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Cat-morph furry TF is plantigrade instead of digitigrade. And is missing claw descriptors. :T
 

ElPresidente

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Well, since you asked.
hmm....

On a more subjective side - furries, traps, anal and insanely oversized body parts - I HATE all of those.
Now furries I can partially avoid (but only up to a point, since some are plot-centric)
Traps are harder to avoid.
Anal can me mostly avoided, except in a few cases where your only interaction with a character is anal or leave (even when she's female).
Insanely oversized body parts can't really be avoided.

What can (and should be done) is options to turn certain content on/off. A lot of games do that.
An option to turn all furries into non-furries.
Option to set a limit to body part size (for player and NPC's)
Etc.

The biggest problem with these is that the writers of the OC Donut Steele get an anurysim if you don't like their character, and they might fight tooth and nail against that, forgetting that this is the game and thus, should serve the player.


Aside from that - flesh out existing character more before making new ones, more transformation options for NPCs.
That cursed paladin lady that's been in the game forever comes to mind. About time she gets a quest to fix her (revert to female, return her vag and make her futa or do nothing) and becomes a comapnion.
And what's even with that elf "princess"?


Aside from that, this game is definitly a lot better than TiTS (my opinion), but there's still a LOT of room for improvement.
 

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The biggest problem with these is that the writers of the OC Donut Steele get an anurysim if you don't like their character, and they might fight tooth and nail against that, forgetting that this is the game and thus, should serve the player.

Wut? No seriously, what are you talking about? I don't know of anyone who's gotten mad at the reception of their character.

And what's even with that elf "princess"?

There a reason you put princess in air quotes?

What can (and should be done) is options to turn certain content on/off. A lot of games do that.
An option to turn all furries into non-furries.
Option to set a limit to body part size (for player and NPC's)
Etc.

Disabling certain kinks would be nice, but I'd imagine that if it were considered then it'd be far down the priority list at this point. While I'm not a fan of furries, disabling them is different from changing them. There would have to rewrites to scenes for new versions, new artwork, and the question of where to put all that on the sliding scale of furry stuff.

Anal can me mostly avoided, except in a few cases where your only interaction with a character is anal or leave (even when she's female).

Poor butt bunny Sariel.
 

Alypia

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What can (and should be done) is options to turn certain content on/off. A lot of games do that.
An option to turn all furries into non-furries.
Option to set a limit to body part size (for player and NPC's)
Etc.
The characters exist and aren't going to be changed.

You don't have to sex them, though. View the smut content that you think you'll enjoy, and avoid the smut content that you think you won't. Nobody's making your character lewd the furries, buttsluts, hyper characters, etc. There is a toggle, and it's "don't pick the sex options". :)
 

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The biggest problem with these is that the writers of the OC Donut Steele get an anurysim if you don't like their character, and they might fight tooth and nail against that, forgetting that this is the game and thus, should serve the player.
I don't know if any of the writers get upset about poor receptions, and frankly, it doesn't matter. I don't think that the fact that this is a game means that things should be changed for specific players. Games have audiences that they're intended for. There are things which devs/writers may be flexible on, allowing for variance based on the wants of certain players. As Alypia said, though, aside from certain variance for some characters, all the options you really need are "I don't particularly want to fuck you." Of course some characters are going to show up and be more persistent than others. Ryn is important for the plot, but now that a dildo has been added to allow Ryn to fight without being handicapped if you aren't fucking her, you can pretty much just avoid all sexual interactions with her. She was pretty much all the only character where it ever seems you need to fuck them, and even then only because she's mandatory for the Winter City/Ice Palace. Unless you're defeated in a fight, you can pretty much just say no to any and all sex if you want. That is how you're served.
Aside from that - flesh out existing character more before making new ones, more transformation options for NPCs.
That cursed paladin lady that's been in the game forever comes to mind. About time she gets a quest to fix her (revert to female, return her vag and make her futa or do nothing) and becomes a comapnion.
And what's even with that elf "princess"?
1: Yeah, it's probably better to make characters more fleshed out, but while transformation options are nice, every transformation adds a new variable, so either characters need to be written with future transformations in mind, or scenes must be generic enough that a character fits in, regardless of body parts. This also presents an issue of someone were to go with your suggestion of options that make wide, sweeping changes, like "all furries are not furry" or things like that. That means a lot of extra work to rewrite characters, perhaps even into ways that simply don't make sense for who they are. That, or turning all of their scenes into generic mush. Also the time and money to commission alternate artwork to represent their changed state. To make the changes satisfying, a lot of work must be done, and that work, these new features, may still simply not suit the character.

2: Eryka. That's the paladin. Of course, it would be neat to get to do something to help fix the corruption, but she's not going to be a companion. Companions need the most work out of any character in the game, because they follow you around. So of course, they need the ability to comment on things. Eryka was never intended to be a companion, so she'd need a ton of dialogue to be written up to insert herself into the companion circle. Hell, Shar was originally supposed to be a companion, but that idea was abandoned because of the workload. If an existing character were to end up becoming a companion now, I'd expect it to be Shar because she was intended to be one, but even so I'm certain it won't be done.

3: As Wint3r said. Why did you put that in quotes?
 

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What can (and should be done) is options to turn certain content on/off. A lot of games do that.
An option to turn all furries into non-furries.
'Make it a toggle' is really not an option. You aren't the first person to come here with a list of demands and you won't be the last, but you aren't getting what you want so you might as well get used to that. See this post by Savin and this one by The Observer for some past examples and reasons why toggles Are Not Happening, especially for stuff as ridiculously extensive as you're demanding.
The biggest problem with these is that the writers of the OC Donut Steele get an anurysim if you don't like their character, and they might fight tooth and nail against that, forgetting that this is the game and thus, should serve the player.
The characters are, y'know, characters. They are the way they are because that's what their authors wanted to write and they have backstories and personalities to match. Nobody is going to throw out a character with several years worth of development and rewrite them because Random Internet Person #42 doesn't like them. Or even a character who's only a few months old, it's how they're conceived and that's how they're gonna be. This is even more the case with companion characters because of how integrated they're meant to be with the story and setting.
Aside from that - flesh out existing character more before making new ones, more transformation options for NPCs.
Characters are fleshed out as their writers have the time and inclination to do so and not all characters necessarily will get additional content. The writers have no obligation to work on any particular schedule, except insofar as the paid staff have priorities based on upcoming content.

TFing for NPCs is another of those things I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for, it's all bespoke content. See here for why it will remain that way.
And what's even with that elf "princess"?
She is a princess and one day she will make a fine queen. Unless you really enjoy salt, I'd suggest you avoid misgendering her or saying anything about changing her genitals.
 

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The dunk parade on this guy belongs on a Things we love thread.
It's always funny to watch discussions when there is someone who is like: a) i dont like x , remove it from the game b) i like z and there is none/not enough of it make more , peasants c) i am (insert sexuality here) and i dont like that the champ / cpt Steele doesn't act the way i do
 

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'Make it a toggle' is really not an option. You aren't the first person to come here with a list of demands and you won't be the last, but you aren't getting what you want so you might as well get used to that.
Suggestions, not demands.
I have no dellusions that anything I say will have 0 impact, and my posting here is more out of boredom than any real hope anything would change.

She is a princess and one day she will make a fine queen. Unless you really enjoy salt, I'd suggest you avoid misgendering her or saying anything about changing her genitals.
Oh no, I "misgendered"(not) a fictional character that doesn't exist. Crime of the century.
What you gonna do? Flay me alive with your sharp tounge?
 

Wint3rRyd3r

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Oh no, I "misgendered"(not) a fictional character that doesn't exist. Crime of the century.
What you gonna do? Flay me alive with your sharp tounge?
and my posting here is more out of boredom than any real hope anything would change.

So you're just trolling and being a close minded ass because you have nothing else to do. Good to know. Which means I won't miss out on anything of substance if I disregard you completely.
 
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