Your joys with CoC II

[jwins]

You do you. While I really dislike Evergreen on pretty much every single one of her levels, I still like Cait and would rather take the bullet and pay the price to reunite her with her father than have Evergreen demand something of her that got her so flustered. And hopefully we'll get the chance to increment one of the witch's flags before too long and get my daughter back.

 

[Animalistic]

You do you. While I really dislike Evergreen on pretty much every single one of her levels, I still like Cait and would rather take the bullet and pay the price to reunite her with her father than have Evergreen demand something of her that got her so flustered. And hopefully we'll get the chance to increment one of the witch's flags before too long and get my daughter back.

Not happening hoze. If you do not want your child to suffer, get you mind out of the gutter.
And lets be real here, If Cait had a chance to find her sister and all it would take is for her to get knocked up? She would do it in a heartbeat. And she is willing enough to fuck her if you yourself do. So really, we just returned to starting point by refusing the overweight tanuki.
Not mentioning Cait is a whore. She should know what it means to sell yourself to get somewhere.

And I mean, nothing what evergreen is doing is strictly worse than what Cait is going to do your and everyone elses children after they get born. Taking a child in form/as a payment, taking care of them, teaching them and using them for their ends.

 

[jwins]

I fail to see how raising and educating children in a safe environment until they come of age at which point they get to decide what they wish to so with ther lives is the same as magically altering your children so that they reach physical maturity in a year, teach them to worship you, encourage intimate relations among siblings and get sexually involved with them. I'm not a fan of the gods in this game and the temple probably does nudge it's children towards joining it but one is clearly a lot worse than the other.
The temple doesn't take children as a form of payment. They take money as payment for the privilege of having a child with one of the sacred harlots. Money which is used to maintain the temple and in the raising of the child. During Salwah's bath scene she says that that is something the initiates do to get comfortable around naked people, but we can assume that kids aren't forced to clean an ugly bastard if they don't want to.
I also don't see where you got the idea that Cait would treat her children as Evergreen does. In Cait and Leorah threesome Cait gets visibly upset at the suggestion that she and Calla got dropped off at the temple so they wouldn't be a bother and insists that both her parents loved them and from what I've seen of Barney and the fact that her mother risked her place in the temple for Cait to do what she trully wanted, I believe her. Nothing suggests that Cait would be anything short of a loving parent to her kids whereas Evergreen has kids because pregnancy feels good, to gamble, marry off, ensure a successor, and warm her bed at night.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Evergreen bad. And I mean that unironically. I'm with you. I ain't popping out kids just so she can do whatever screwed up stuff she feels like at the time. Hoping we can stop her but that seems like an endgame quest even if planned.

Also Cait>Evergreen every way. Especially since even those raised in the temple seem to have the option of leaving, judging from Cait's dialogue. It's not a great environment, but it's better than that tanuki.

 

[Animalistic]

I fail to see how raising and educating children in a safe environment until they come of age at which point they get to decide what they wish to so jg5with ther lives is the same as magically altering your children so that they reach physical maturity in a year, teach them to worship you, encourage intimate relations among siblings and get sexually involved with them. I'm not a fan of the gods in this game and the temple probably does nudge it's children towards joining it but one is clearly a lot worse than the other.
The temple doesn't take children as a form of payment. They take money as payment for the privilege of having a child with one of the sacred harlots. Money which is used to maintain the temple and in the raising of the child. During Salwah's bath scene she says that that is something the initiates do to get comfortable around naked people, but we can assume that kids aren't forced to clean an ugly bastard if they don't want to.
I also don't see where you got the idea that Cait would treat her children as Evergreen does. In Cait and Leorah threesome Cait gets visibly upset at the suggestion that she and Calla got dropped off at the temple so they wouldn't be a bother and insists that both her parents loved them and from what I've seen of Barney and the fact that her mother risked her place in the temple for Cait to do what she trully wanted, I believe her. Nothing suggests that Cait would be anything short of a loving parent to her kids whereas Evergreen has kids because pregnancy feels good, to gamble, marry off, ensure a successor, and warm her bed at night.

Does it really matter if you pay with a child or pay for a child?

Besides, they are still teached to be harlots/gigolos. They are created mostly as a way for a father/mother of a child to get their rocks of while selling them off to a glorified whorehouse. Lets not forget that Cait and her sister are exceptions to the rule.
And as for altering children while still inside of the womb? Yeah , I am also creeped out. But from our latest discovery, nothing really special. Mallach followers do it to ensure the child is certain species.
The Salamander girl from up and coming Berwyn quest is a product of some kind of combined gene pool created from best minds of their mortal plane? That is not even commenting on what Keros has done to Kiyoko after you free her.
And marrying of your children? Well, that is not really special to her. Many people do it. Kiyoko does it. Many nobles do it. Because, this game is based on some kind of bronze age setting.

As for being given a choice? Well, yeah they have less choice than Mallach followers. But even than, all of things we learn about Mallach temple comes from Cait and her whore friends. Not really unbiased sources. Especially from Cait, a girl that can not fathom why her sister is not as in love with Mallachs prickly prick as she is.

Still, I do think Evergreen is evil. But not because of things she does with her children. But because story and developers told me so.

 

[jwins]

Does it really matter if you pay with a child or pay for a child?

I believe that there is a difference between giving an incestuous witch a child as payment for a magical dick and giving someone money to carry your / give you a child if you can't have one with someone you love.

Besides, they are still teached to be harlots/gigolos. They are created mostly as a way for a father/mother of a child to get their rocks of while selling them off to a glorified whorehouse.

They don't SELL their child. They PAY a lot of money to have a child and to have that child raised, educated, and cared for in the temple for 18 years and they are free to visit them at any time.

And as for altering children while still inside of the womb? Yeah , I am also creeped out. But from our latest discovery, nothing really special. Mallach followers do it to ensure the child is certain species.

Yeah, I forgot that, my bad.

And marrying of your children? Well, that is not really special to her. Many people do it. Kiyoko does it. Many nobles do it. Because, this game is based on some kind of bronze age setting.

I'm not saying that political marriage isn't a thing, just that Cait would not marry her children off willy nilly. And what about gambling them away? Fucking them?

 

[Emerald]

I thought it's been made clear a good while back that Evergreen doesn't actually screw her bio-children (That would be the two half-nukies we see in name) tho.

Spoiler

The furry nukis are not her biological children. It's faux-incest I think it was. She calls them her daughters but they really aren't.

 

[SmithEK]

I really love the characters esp Elthara and Lady Evergreen. The characters are more.. involved and unlike with TiTs our PC doesn't go on adventures alone. Oh and of course the romance/fuckbuddies? With Kas.. I so would give my PCs soul to her willingly.

But is Lady Evergreen incestuous? On occasion when PC arrives at the mansion it can be seen that one of her charges is giving the witch a blowjob.. is that one of her daughters or ..? And if you're bred by her enough she says how she wished PC was one of her daughters as she could keep PC by her side. Personally I don't care if she is.. I enjoy all her content.

 

[jwins]

Technically she isn't because Patreon, the Supreme God presiding over Fenverse, forbids it. But everyone sees the wink.

 

[SmithEK]

I don't get what the problem is with incest in games. As long as it isn't forced and no ones a minor what's the big deal?

 

[jwins]

Because it's illegal in many places and Patreon doesn't want to be seen as a platform where such content is allowed.

 

[Animalistic]

I don't get what the problem is with incest in games. As long as it isn't forced and no ones a minor what's the big deal?

Some people can not tell difference between reality and fiction. So they make it illegal.

 

[Emerald]

Some people can not tell difference between reality and fiction.

This, and Paypal. Patreon allowed full on incest before so clearly something in the back influenced the change and I will forever blame Paypal for getting their skeevy hands on the site.

ANYWAYS Joys, I just got that new Pale elf dude (Me? Actually playing the game after not for so long? More news at 10) and he's hot and I like him already, haven't done his content yet outside the initial intro scenes tho. But I've already heard a few good things. :3

 

[Animalistic]

This, and Paypal. Patreon allowed full on incest before so clearly something in the back influenced the change and I will forever blame Paypal for getting their skeevy hands on the site.

ANYWAYS Joys, I just got that new Pale elf dude (Me? Actually playing the game after not for so long? More news at 10) and he's hot and I like him already, haven't done his content yet outside the initial intro scenes tho. But I've already heard a few good things. :3

He is nice if you are into sub/dom petplay where you are the sub. And he does have sweet after care scenes.
Not really my thing.

But I do have to say, his bust does not really match his description. Not that I mind, prefer his bust.

 

[Emerald]

But I do have to say, his bust does not really match my description. Not that I mind, prefer his bust.

That's expected at this point and frankly I don't bother wasting my breath about it anymore. (Dunno what you mean by "my" though.)

And yeah I'm fine with the Dom/Sub petplay thing on either end, even better when there's good aftercare involved. Granted I'll never not hunger for more PCDom so it's still a bias there in pref.

 

[Animalistic]

That's expected at this point and frankly I don't bother wasting my breath about it anymore. (Dunno what you mean by "my" though.)

And yeah I'm fine with the Dom/Sub petplay thing on either end, even better when there's good aftercare involved. Granted I'll never not hunger for more PCDom so it's still a bias there in pref.

I wanted to say "his" but made an upsy.

I prefer it when our PC is able to dom/be on equal footing. With both man and woman. But what that usually ends up meaning is that you sub when you bottom and dom when you pitch. Which I do find boring. Like, I get it to some extent, but it is shame.

Still, Elyon is pretty good. But at this point I am so desperate for some male content, that if Takahiro was released today, I could probably stand him. At least for a day.

 

[Malpha]

There's a new dude who was added as part of Cat Temple in the latest public patch. And there will eventually be another, also as part of the Temple.

 

[Animalistic]

There's a new dude who was added as part of Cat Temple in the latest public patch. And there will eventually be another, also as part of the Temple.

He is to stoic for my liking. Like for example his blowjob scene focuses more on us giving the blowjob than on his reactions. Which is not something that I look for in a sex scene. I like to see effects of my work on my partner.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

Needs more power bottoms.

 

[Majincotton]

Gotta gush about mayternity and the new elthara content because boy howdy is it good.

I know like a lot of mayternity is about breeding or getting bred and all of that but the softness of the scenes while you or your partner is pregnant is so good. From the Hrethra scenes where she blushes when you call her beautiful to the Brint/Brienne pregnancy conversations to Arona being ecstatic while holding her child.

The Elthara content (100 pages of it btw holy hell Wsan) has so much of what I love about mayternity and more of my favorite character. Was never a big fan of preg content until i saw the soft scenes it could make

 

[Shmebulock]

Whatever it is that involves naughty elf Pope is good. Not super crazy about the preg stuff specifically (let's say it's more of an okay, why not...), but Elthara is a fantastic piece of holy ass that I'm glad to have around.

 

[SmithEK]

I think my biggest joy with this game is that is is catered to everyone. Whereas most adult/erotic games I have found on the net mostly catered to men or you're made to play a Male PC which isn't to everyone's taste.

 

[Shmebulock]

Love the new taleer by the southern fields. There's something to be said about specialized content and that girl certainly checks one or two of my biggest kinks.

Keep it up, SKoW, you magnificent bastard.

Edit: What if you could wyvern venom that feisty girl?

 

[Zbearbear]

I really love how they built up the lore around the game and digging into all of that content. I also like how it feels like you're actually building a relationship and making some form of progress with your companions as their stories/quests unfold.

 

[Ilonus]

This game is the quintessential embodiment of "came for the porn, stayed for the plot." I can't get enough of this, and it helps having nothing better to do since COVID hit.

At first, I was like

"Okay, this looks like some good smut to read"
to

"Hey, this has some pretty good writing"
to

Spoiler

Day 439:

My home and children were assaulted while my wife and I were away travelling. A double-digit group of masked raiders, I am told, looted and burned a good majority of the den. The crops were set alight and the stores were destroyed; the materials and supplies were stolen or destroyed.

My firstborn took charge, as is expected of her as her mother's majordomo and heir, but ever since that day she has been unusually quiet and withdrawn. Many of our oldest bear the scars of battle or trauma; as their father, I wished I could have been there when they needed me most. I missed so much of their lives, only to not be there once again when they would need me most. If it wasn't for Matron Komari's timely arrival, my children would be dead, and my home ashes. I would have lost the only family I ever knew, and there was nothing I could have done. The one time I could defend something so important to me was the day that I wanted to take Kiyoko on a little sight-seeing since it has been so long since she saw the real world.

For the first time since I set out on this unexpected adventure, I feel so... helpless. Uncertain of what I can do. I want to be there for my children, but each time I try to reach out, they try to sidestep the subject.

Perhaps... they've gotten used to me not being around. It wouldn't be too surprising if that's the case; me being absent so much to the point that they consider it an unusual occurrence to have to keep me in the loop. Can I not have this one chance to be a parent without some kind of arbitrary limitation or unexpected development?

Why now, when I can consistently and readily be a part of my children's lives as their father, does the world seek to drive me away from them?

...

Kitsune strongly believe in and adhere to the concept of reciprocity due to their nature and to protect themselves from themselves, I have been told. Well, if there is one thing that I am certain about in times like these, it is that I am more than eager to pay back what is owed, and there is nothing that can protect those motherless bastards from me.

 

[The Observer]

This game is the quintessential embodiment of "came for the porn, stayed for the plot." I can't get enough of this, and it helps having nothing better to do since COVID hit.

At first, I was like

"Okay, this looks like some good smut to read"
to

"Hey, this has some pretty good writing"
to

Spoiler

Day 439:

My home and children were assaulted while my wife and I were away travelling. A double-digit group of masked raiders, I am told, looted and burned a good majority of the den. The crops were set alight and the stores were destroyed; the materials and supplies were stolen or destroyed.

My firstborn took charge, as is expected of her as her mother's majordomo and heir, but ever since that day she has been unusually quiet and withdrawn. Many of our oldest bear the scars of battle or trauma; as their father, I wished I could have been there when they needed me most. I missed so much of their lives, only to not be there once again when they would need me most. If it wasn't for Matron Komari's timely arrival, my children would be dead, and my home ashes. I would have lost the only family I ever knew, and there was nothing I could have done. The one time I could defend something so important to me was the day that I wanted to take Kiyoko on a little sight-seeing since it has been so long since she saw the real world.

For the first time since I set out on this unexpected adventure, I feel so... helpless. Uncertain of what I can do. I want to be there for my children, but each time I try to reach out, they try to sidestep the subject.

Perhaps... they've gotten used to me not being around. It wouldn't be too surprising if that's the case; me being absent so much to the point that they consider it an unusual occurrence to have to keep me in the loop. Can I not have this one chance to be a parent without some kind of arbitrary limitation or unexpected development?

Why now, when I can consistently and readily be a part of my children's lives as their father, does the world seek to drive me away from them?

...

Kitsune strongly believe in and adhere to the concept of reciprocity due to their nature and to protect themselves from themselves, I have been told. Well, if there is one thing that I am certain about in times like these, it is that I am more than eager to pay back what is owed, and there is nothing that can protect those motherless bastards from me.

To partially answer your question:

The current character I'm playing in Alder's FoE&D is the daughter of the dragon god of trickery, assassination, and shadow. Her father, while merely a mid-level player in the setting's pantheon, could have opted to raise her at his court, at the heart of his realm far away from his enemies, in perfect safety and with every comfort he could provide. Instead, he chose to have his daughter raised on another plane, in a city governed by his brother's empire, a brother who has no love for him or his cult. For her protection, she had her mother and one of his most ardent worshippers -- stanch guardians, perhaps, but certainly no match for the entire militia of the city if it came down to it. Her contact with her father throughout the years consisted of intermittent visits when he was passing through on business. Never too close, yet never too distant, either.

It hurt him to have to send his daughter away from the opulence and perhaps even decadence of his court, to distance himself from her in such a fashion and perhaps even have exposed her to a controlled measure of genuine danger. But it was necessary, and in the end when his daughter had come into her own as an agent provocateur in her own right she had the freedom to choose to be with him rather than need it, and was grateful to be allowed that choice.

 

[Ilonus]

To partially answer your question:

The current character I'm playing in Alder's FoE&D is the daughter of the dragon god of trickery, assassination, and shadow. Her father, while merely a mid-level player in the setting's pantheon, could have opted to raise her at his court, at the heart of his realm far away from his enemies, in perfect safety and with every comfort he could provide. Instead, he chose to have his daughter raised on another plane, in a city governed by his brother's empire, a brother who has no love for him or his cult. For her protection, she had her mother and one of his most ardent worshippers -- stanch guardians, perhaps, but certainly no match for the entire militia of the city if it came down to it. Her contact with her father throughout the years consisted of intermittent visits when he was passing through on business. Never too close, yet never too distant, either.

It hurt him to have to send his daughter away from the opulence and perhaps even decadence of his court, to distance himself from her in such a fashion and perhaps even have exposed her to a controlled measure of genuine danger. But it was necessary, and in the end when his daughter had come into her own as an agent provocateur in her own right she had the freedom to choose to be with him rather than need it, and was grateful to be allowed that choice.

First off, your writing is phenomenal and the Kitsune content is my absolute favorite part of the game, obviously. As an aspiring author myself, you definitely have my admiration. Can't wait to see more content in the future.

I can't wait for the day where we can watch Kinu curb-stomp the ever-loving shit out of that slimy bastard. As much as I want to help her, I know that it is better to let her fight her own battles and be there only if she wants me to be there. I won't be around forever, but I will do my utmost to support her if she wants it; what good dad wouldn't?

Perhaps a good idea for future content, if you allow outside suggestions, is to give an opportunity to help develop Kinu's martial prowess in a similar manner as to how you can train Valencia. It can be a way to bond with her as much as it can be a way to help her be better equipped for times where she must defend her current and future home.

 

[Upcast Drake]

Tobs is against the player having an impact on adult kinu, so that she can grow out of their shadow.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

Tobs is against the player having an impact on adult kinu, so that she can grow out of their shadow.

Jokes on him. I'm such a shitty parent that Kinu never got to be in my shadow in the first place. I've even got a whole nursery wing full of kids I neglect.

 

[Ilonus]

Tobs is against the player having an impact on adult kinu, so that she can grow out of their shadow.

I can understand that line of thinking -- the next generation will inevitably end up surpassing the current one, as it were. One can dream, I suppose.