Your Gripes With CoC2

[orropo]

okay okay, i apologize my lieges, i just didnt think that the intellectual caste of this here forums was of such high pedigree such as yousguys

 

[LonelyHydra]

whats with people snorting thesauruses on porn game forums? we are all degenerates here, why are you wearing monocles?

I'd rather have them around over people who refuse to wrap their head around the battle system. (Not that I don't sympathize with the latter. Solving a math problem to get a piece of ass does require mind shifting.) Fresh perspectives who take the character/party building seriously also take the story seriously too. They don't usually shut their brain off around specific parts.

 

[LonelyHydra]

If there was a companion character with about a similar level quantity of content vagina locked then I think it would be fair, such as just making a genderbent Kiyoko adjusted to fit the scenario. Even in COC1 there is a character who is dick locked, but you can still recruit her through other means, just not have sex with her.

I suspect Garret was planned to be something like that. He went over like a lead balloon by the audience, so he's rather underdeveloped as a result.

 

[Shgon Dunstan]

3) Kasyrra ("Don't you DARE critize my original OC!!!")

I can understand why some people like this character the same way people like Whitney from DOL, it's a kink thing, and to those people know this is not directed at you. Other than horny there is nothing redeemable or likable about this character in my opinion. If she was simply a chaotic evil character wanting to sexually subjugate the world I would prefer that, because trying to reform her feels idiotic at minimum. This character has done so many sick and disgusting acts that trying to excuse it or reform her feels like a hybristophiliac trying to excuse her favorite serial killer's actions and thinking their love alone can save the person from repeatedly raping everything. Not only that, the game almost tries to guilt you when you do anything against her, such as being soulbound. If the game has a bad ending at all, even in the slightest, or if there is some bs with the T R U E ending being locked behind having to romance and redeem Karyrra, then I'm losing it. I remember the story of someone who found a loophole to actually beat Kasyrra in a fight, then the creator stopped that. Hey, creator, if the fight is unwinnable... Don't add it. It rarely is anything but annoying for the player, there is very rare instances of unwinnable fights actually having the effect of "oh WOW this character is so COOL and STRONG."

But above all else, there is the one trope I hate the most with Kasyrra. "You see this villain or badass female character? You see she actually has a tragic backstory... She has fertility issues she just wanted to be a mother ):" I get that isn't exactly the situation with Kasyrra, it's actually worse because Kasyrra DOES have multiple children, just not any biological ones. Sorry, Aileh.

I mean isnt the point that trying to redeem/romance Kas is a bad thing and the game makes this clear?

Eh. All the demonic corruption amounts to is a mystical plague outbreak, of which most of those affected, Karyrra included, are just victims thereof. Functionally all what the setting calls a "soul" is, is your spiritual liver that regulates you positive/negative energy. With the dark magic of the corruption pushing one towards negative in it's absence. The more traditional "soul=your mind/identity" is rather what the setting seems to call Ki, and is what Kiyoko had trapped so long.

Given their nature, demons aren't all that much different then stuff like spirits from setting like Dragon Age or Avatar, only they've been locked into a negative alignment by the corruption. With a few exceptions, they aren't really evil by choice.

As is, trying to save Kas, who is still every bit as much a victim of said plague as anyone else, is less "a bad thing", so much as just a bit optimistic and selfish given all the shit going on... mind, given the highly contagious nature of said corruption, even killing her wouldn't actually "do" all that much in the end, and having her switch teams would be a major(and frankly likely to be needed) boon Vs all the armies of imps and demons.

Besides... the Wraiths are basically just demons minus most of the sympathetic elements, and given Kas is at least actively trying to get a soul back, a bunch of wraiths that basically just ended up getting a soul metaphorically stuck in their metaphorical teeth by pure chance... have very little room to talk on the matter.