Your Gripes With CoC2

NinjaTacos

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Kiyoko is still my favorite, but that part really pissed me off.

Kiyoko is one of the most obviously flawed non-villain characters in the game. Personally, I speculate that the centuries of isolation took more of a toll on her psyche then she lets on. To put in perspective, Komari, surrounded by her family and work is checked out of her own life while Kiyoko was isolated from everyone for the same amount of time.

While really egregious, you can start to see why Keros is such a dick to Komari.
I definitely like to at least head-canon that Kiyoko has some trauma/PTSD from being trapped in the orb for - from her perspective - probably millennia. Isolation is extremely bad for us, and despair is possibly even worse - after centuries of the orb lying under dust in that cave, she must have had no hope. Prisoners serving indeterminate sentences (yup, the UK has a small number of petty criminals serving prison sentences that have no max length - good job, UK justice system) have shown severe mental health issues from despair, up to an including developing schizophrenia and psychosis.

I would assume that the astral plane is healing any mental harm she takes, as well as physical, though I do feel like she has some mental health issues/trauma, though that might be more what I read into it than what Tobs intended. I think it would be lovely if her first scene, where you first encounter her in the Astral Plane, had her acting much more fearfully, much more like someone who has had zero contact with other people in centuries, like she has to push herself to answer the door, let you in, try and behave like a civilised creature. The abrupt way the encounter ends would then feel more fitting, and her having time to prepare herself before the next encounter could close that off.

Her most egregious moment for me, moreso even than Kinu's engagement, is when you first free her. They all come out of the orb and there's no acknowledgement from anyone of any distress the champ might feel finding they've missed ten years of their family's lives, just a flippant comment. Then Kiyoko waves you away, like, "You've served your purpose in getting me out; now you're an inconvenience." "Oh, are you still here?" I don't imagine that's what Tobs intended but it's how it comes across. An option to pass a couple of days helping you family settling into their home, or even a unique victory-sex scene with Kiyoko would go some way to amending this. And hey, might finally give a chance for just one lesbian scene with her if I complete the Kitsune dungeon with my ghostlight off.

Kiyoko is okay, I like the fact she now acknowledges the MC if the MC is female and able to have kits. Unlike when she's in the orb. Could just be how it's written.

Is there a specific scene you're referring to? I play a female champ, get a ghostlight almost exclusively for Kiyoko's sake, and haven't noticed anything really acknowledging that. I still remember when I first played through and her scenes regularly referred to my femchamp as her husband or Kinu's father, so it felt like provision for female champs in her scenes was barely an afterthought. While that's been fixed, I haven't noticed any further work in that direction.
 
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CboyC95

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When I give my character a plush physique, why does it say that my character has toned pectorals? Wouldn't my character's chest be, I don't know, flabby? Also, why isn't there a way to have just a flat chest, like plain flat.
 

orropo

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When I give my character a plush physique, why does it say that my character has toned pectorals? Wouldn't my character's chest be, I don't know, flabby? Also, why isn't there a way to have just a flat chest, like plain flat.
do you maybe have perks like buxom or milky? those usually prevent it, also maybe look at the tone meter? that usually does it for me
 

CboyC95

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do you maybe have perks like buxom or milky? those usually prevent it, also maybe look at the tone meter? that usually does it for me
The sliders during character creation didn't make it clear on what body or face your character will have upon completion.
 
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orropo

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The sliders during character creation didn't make it clear on what body your character will have upon completion.
? i dont gwt what you mean since wright at the end it gives you an appearance tab, where you see how your champ looks, every body part is elaborated on