Your Gripes With CoC2

[Karakara]

As I said, preferences are all well and good in real life, but at certain point in this whole excursion, where most CoC2 and TiTs men have either no bottoming scenes or 1 token one (excluding femboys because, most of the time, they are not treated as men), I am just ready to accept "everyone is pansexual/champsexual and sexualy flexible" as the most logical course of action.

I do not have data or anything, but most of the playerbase plays character with dicks, and they tend to want to use them, yes? That has been established through various polls and developer comments. So then why do most guys play out as strict tops? Even if most of the dick champs have no interest in men, I still think that the ones that like to top boys and the ones that like to bottom to boys should be at least equal in numbers, yes? Even if we included those players that play strictly as fem/cboy champs. So at least from meta perspective, if you are going to use your precious time to write content that will only appeal to minority, why would you cut your potential fans in half by only writing only semes, then go on about how there is seemingly no interest in men?

It just feels so backwards to me.

 

[Emerald]

This feels like an over reaction, also its a porn game. Applying real life logic to this is silly, especially when Quin is literally just the ''bottoming makes me gay'' meme and teases the possibility with other stuff he does. This feels like a weird hill to die on, when I feel he's borderline offensive himself. Also, a companion character like him should appeal to as many people as possible, npcs are one thing but companions should be different for obvious reasons. Especially when there are so few male companions. Its not that deep.

It's a gripes thread also and this is my gripe. :U
You can apply "it's not that deep" with like the majority of complaints here on the forums., they still get said anyways.

 

[TheIrishOtaku]

It's a gripes thread also and this is my gripe. :U
You can apply "it's not that deep" with like the majority of complaints here on the forums., they still get said anyways.

Alright, I think your gripe is silly and an over reaction is my point but lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

[Kurameda]

Minor gripe: Unlocking the Vulperine codex entry requires the player to encounter Raphael during the events of The Princess Blade. A bit silly, considering we talk to Nieves and have an entry into the Windy Peaks (and its village of vulperines). Just let me fill in the Codex, man.

 

[probehuntress]

but most of the playerbase plays character with dicks, and they tend to want to use them, yes?

im the minority, i think scenes explicitly not using the pc's dick are great :x

 

[Karakara]

im the minority, i think scenes explicitly not using the pc's dick are great :x

That is why I said most, not all. There are obviously men that prefer to bottom. We would not have terms such as bottom, top and switch otherwise. It is just the way CoC2 is structured and written that leads me to believe that most of the playerbase leans top, which is why I am little confused as to why most men do not accomidate that position.

 

[DanielDorkus]

That is why I said most, not all. There are obviously men that prefer to bottom. We would not have terms such as bottom, top and switch otherwise. It is just the way CoC2 is structured and written that leads me to believe that most of the playerbase leans top, which is why I am little confused as to why most men do not accomidate that position.

I believe the ratio for top/bottom is 60/40 are pretty even for patreon or 10/90 for the discord. //the last one is made up but sure feels like it.

 

[TheIrishOtaku]

I believe the ratio for top/bottom is 60/40 for patreon or 10/90 for the discord. //the last one is made up but sure feels like it.

Oh you can make up statistics to explain anything, over 85 percent of people know that!

 

[Karakara]

I believe the ratio for top/bottom is 60/40 for patreon or 10/90 for the discord. //the last one is made up but sure feels like it.

Just like forums, I believe discord is mostly composed of same few people constantly voicing their opinions. Echoes and choirs and all that.

 

[probehuntress]

same few people constantly voicing their opinions. Echoes and choirs and all that

so true everyone should get 10 messages before the account is deleted permenantly

 

[Savin]

I believe the ratio for top/bottom is 60/40 for patreon

Preference for Femsub and Femdom were within a percentage point of each other on the last patron poll.

 

[Karakara]

Preference for Femsub and Femdom were within a percentage point of each other on the last patron poll.

Did it specify girls with dicks and ones with not, or just girls in general?

 

[Savin]

Did it specify girls with dicks and ones with not, or just girls in general?

General.

 

[darky4444]

The new patch with the bard update is amazing af. But it still bothers me that the Viv set is going to work on debuffing enemies.

I despise debuffs in this game, because I think debuffs should last entire rounds, not turns, they become impossible to use properly for combos against enemies with action points 2+.

The pain of trying to setup frigid for Brint is immeasurable... Let alone the Kiyoko set based on debuffs which will be the same fate for the new Viv set.

 

[mbezzo]

The new patch with the bard update is amazing af. But it still bothers me that the Viv set is going to work on debuffing enemies.

I despise debuffs in this game, because I think debuffs should last entire rounds, not turns, they become impossible to use properly for combos against enemies with action points 2+.

The pain of trying to setup frigid for Brint is immeasurable... Let alone the Kiyoko set based on debuffs which will be the same fate for the new Viv set.

I agree that the turn based debuff system makes some companions/powers worthless against bosses, but changing all debuffs to be round based would throw off the balance for debuffs that affect the enemy on their turn, namely DoTs and debuffs that lower enemy offensive stats. Imagine if a 2 turn blind was changed to a 2 round blind, now a 3 turn boss could miss you 6 times instead of 2. In this aspect, I think turn based is fine from a balance perspective.

The problem is that debuffs which are only useful when the enemy has it on the player's turn are made useless against multi-turn bosses, which are the debuffs that reduce enemy defenses/resistances. For example, sunder only has value when it's your turn to hit a sundered enemy, whereas a boss that shakes it off with 3 turns in a row renders it utterly useless since it might as well have not existed at all. These are the ones which should be round based IMO, plus any others which have combo powers like frigid.

So I think the solution should be a mixed case-by-case approach instead of changing all debuffs.