Your gripes with CoC II

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JBento

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I can see it now, a pc who somehow managed to become as small as a thumbtack and Kohaku becomes even smaller using her overwhelming power.
This is because Kohi is an angel*, and as we all know angels can dance on the head of pins.

Namely an angel of commerce*, in that she somehow manages to get you the best deals possible and STILL turn a profit in every transaction.

**This is why she's the colour of gold.
 

wery12345

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I do know you get a small discount as a foxen champ, not much to matter but its there. Ambra still gonna get you for every fucking electrum your worth.
 

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The introduction to Khorminos? I do not know, the way Brint/Brienne acted like it was a big deal seemed funny to me and out of place. Especially Brint who was way full of himself for an area that contains:
2 blowjob set pieces, 3 adventures that fuck off, a caravan and a Village consisting of his family? Maybe those boisterous claims should have been saved for a latter area?
 

MarcoPolo121

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The introduction to Khorminos? I do not know, the way Brint/Brienne acted like it was a big deal seemed funny to me and out of place. Especially Brint who was way full of himself for an area that contains:
2 blowjob set pieces, 3 adventures that fuck off, a caravan and a Village consisting of his family? Maybe those boisterous claims should have been saved for a latter area?
This area of the game is still heavily under construction.
 

kiby

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This area of the game is still heavily under construction.
Also this is just the outskirts of the city. This is essentially the farmland supplying the city proper, which we have only recently been able to get into at all (the milking barn, the bakery, and inn are in the city itself). The fact that there is a huge city, with a properly protected farmland/suburban area surrounding it (which all have indoor plumbing), puts it head and shoulders above Hawkethorne and at least even with the Winter City.
 

wery12345

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Isnt there like 36 slots in the fucking city proper, with gods know how many that are going to be filled with stuff.
 

Grainy

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The champion speaking sometimes confuses me, like some scenes I have to read how the other character responds to actually translate what the champion said as opposed to what was a narrative description. I prefer when the champion has quotations and speaks plainly and leave the second person perspective to the narration and not what is meant for the dialogue.
 

wery12345

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Eh thats up to the writers, they tend to make it clear when the champ is talking via use of I/myself/etc.
 

Grainy

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Eh thats up to the writers, they tend to make it clear when the champ is talking via use of I/myself/etc.
I am talking about the scenes where they use "You" without quotations even when it is meant as dialogue for the champion.
 

jwins

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Did the wayfort repairs through Daliza and I have to admit that having champ bring up to the bailiff, completely unprompted, that the stockades could be put up so that people can fuck and get fucked in public was quite an odd choice for what is supposed to be the pure route.
 

Burnerbro

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Why does that matter? Being a pure champ surely doesn't make them any less into fetishes and kinks.
Putting people into the stockades is a pretty harsh thing to do, objectively speaking, but it should be consideredquite lenient compared to great many other period appropriate punishments.

Putting people into the stockades so that others can force themselves onto the prisoner is pretty darn corrupt if you ask me. Even being as sexually liberal as they are, most uncorrupted folks we meet would balk at the idea.

Having an entirely kink-based set of public stockades would be fine, but it would still raise a few eyebrows and be considered quite scandalous by most of the civilized people of the Marches.
 
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jwins

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Why does that matter? Being a pure champ surely doesn't make them any less into fetishes and kinks.
Same reason why champ shouldn't just tell everyone they meet that they are the most beautiful person they've ever met, or proclaim their love after a single meeting, or many other things without the player clicking the button to do just that. It breaks immersion when the character's words don't match what the player wants. I get that it's not easy to cover every possible way a scene can go and that always going for the middle of the road option makes Champ a thoughtless blob but if there are extreme options on the table, then giving the player a choice of which they go for is better than just picking whichever you like and the player has to deal with it.

If this scene had an option whether to bring up the possible use of the stockades to Daliza instead of it being the default and only then it would've been fine.
 

Alypia

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Did the wayfort repairs through Daliza and I have to admit that having champ bring up to the bailiff, completely unprompted, that the stockades could be put up so that people can fuck and get fucked in public was quite an odd choice for what is supposed to be the pure route.
You may be misreading the scene.
There's a frown on Daliza's part when you reach the stockades — or at least the space where stockades should be — and she shares an awkward look with you.

"I hope you don't think this improper of me, but do you actually plan to put this in place one day?"

"The stockades?" A fair question, but a little hard to imagine when you're staring at a bunch of worthless planks in an otherwise-empty courtyard. "Maybe."

The bailiff sighs and rubs the back of her head, "I'm not inclined towards public humiliation, although I suppose it shows a gentler hand for lesser crimes. So long as passers-by aren't throwing rotten fruit like we're some kind of savages."

{PC bimbo or high libido: "What about fucking?" |else: "What, you didn't just install this for sex like Jael'yn?"}

You might as well have suggested the floor was on fire, by the way Daliza backs away from it. "What do you mean?"

"I don't even mean for punishment, I mean that... for certain people, being able to get fucked in public like that is incredible. [...]"
 
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WolframL

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Same reason why champ shouldn't just tell everyone they meet that they are the most beautiful person they've ever met, or proclaim their love after a single meeting, or many other things without the player clicking the button to do just that. It breaks immersion when the character's words don't match what the player wants
Yeah, the problem here that most people seem to miss is that the Champ =/= the player. Savin lays it out neatly right here. There are some things that can be done with player input but a lot of things are going to be unprompted, such as the canonically pansexual Champ finding attractive all sexable characters regardless of what you headcanon for them.
 
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wery12345

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Im just mad they took the fucking boulder, I'm with the champ cringing at that evil being committed.
 

Wint3rRyd3r

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Doesn't the winter city have sex stocks already anyway? Maybe it's a cultural thing. Who are we and Daliza to judge?

Im just mad they took the fucking boulder

As a veteran Resident Evil player, boulders are fucking evil and should be punched to death. Only filthy boulder co-conspirators would mourn those sinister heaps of stone death and QTE's. I hate QTE's. As one should.
 

Lone Wolf115

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Doesn't the winter city have sex stocks already anyway? Maybe it's a cultural thing. Who are we and Daliza to judge?



As a veteran Resident Evil player, boulders are fucking evil and should be punched to death. Only filthy boulder co-conspirators would mourn those sinister heaps of stone death and QTE's. I hate QTE's. As one should.
I mean with the stocks who are we to judge.

Oh yeah those, leave the punching to Chris, and the knife throwing into little evil high pitched gnomes hands to Leon. Always carry a rocket launcher (when it doubt blow it to hell) and avoid those raspy breathing regenerators.
 

jwins

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You may be misreading the scene.
I misread the part after that when Daliza said she won't be accused of shaming anyone's sexual predilections. I thought she was referring to the champ and not the folks who are into exhibitionism. Still find it weird as to why champ would bring up how the stockades were used for a fun time back at the WC while it was a corrupted den of lust and depravity.
Yeah, the problem here that most people seem to miss is that the Champ =/= the player. Savin lays it out neatly right here. There are some things that can be done with player input but a lot of things are going to be unprompted, such as the canonically pansexual Champ finding attractive all sexable characters regardless of what you headcanon for them.
I am well aware of that, thank you. I don't mind the things the champ HAS to be in order for the game to function. More the small things that allow for personalization and help with immersion.
 
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Alypia

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Doesn't the winter city have sex stocks already anyway? Maybe it's a cultural thing. Who are we and Daliza to judge?
You're being very silly.
I misread the part after that when Daliza said she won't be accused of shaming anyone's sexual predilections. I thought she was referring to the champ and not the folks who are into exhibitionism. Still find it weird as to why champ would bring up how the stockades were used for a fun time back at the WC while it was a corrupted den of lust and depravity.
It's the only example of exhib that's even remotely relevant to this conversation and that could be brought up without doing a bunch of checks for whether Champ's, say, been to Khor'minos. Champ's initial comment isn't 100% clear, but reading the conversation as a whole, neither character is describing corrupt stuff as a particularly good idea.
 
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