Well, thanks for just implying I'm a bad writer I guess. My stuff got in the game but nobody seemed to care is my point.Everybody likes sausage, but not many are fit to make it.
Well, thanks for just implying I'm a bad writer I guess. My stuff got in the game but nobody seemed to care is my point.Everybody likes sausage, but not many are fit to make it.
Good for you. That and a sack gets you a sack.And here I am writing out of love for the game.
You did write for quite niche NPCs, so maybe that is the reason why your stuff did gather much buzz. One of them was also a guy, so it did not help. As said, try writing something for AO3. Even someone like me who is a newbice when it comes to writing in english has gathered quite a following there.Good for you. That and a sack gets you a sack.
Maybe so, but its still disheartening and having one person (who shall remain nameless) tell me I shouldn't care if my work gets any traction or not and imply I was wrong for doing so and have another person imply I'm shit at it doesn't incentivise me to write for this game anymore anyway. I'm not saying I wanted a standing ovation or anything but acting like I should just ignore the fact that nobody really cared and keep carrying on with the same level of passion regardless is ridiculous. I had a lot of ideas I wanted to get in eventually but it seems kind of pointless, especially when this is the audience I'm writing for. I've pretty much abandoned this place, I just said I'd chime in since my own experience seemed relevant and I get shat on. Its hard not to be a little bitter. Its funny you mention AO3, I actually have written a fanfiction recently that I'm going to be posting on there soon after I do a bit more polishing. I hope people like it and if they do I'll be writing a lot more on there too.You did write for quite niche NPCs, so maybe that is the reason why your stuff did gather much buzz. One of them was also a guy, so it did not help. As said, try writing something for AO3. Even someone like me who is a newbice when it comes to writing in english has gathered quite a following there.
Fuck, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I was being a moron and didn't read the room right.Well, thanks for just implying I'm a bad writer I guess. My stuff got in the game but nobody seemed to care is my point.
Sorry if it came of like that. Often times it is not the quality of your writing that gets you attention, but the themes/audience/fandoms you target. I can not speak for your TiTs submission since I no longer engage with that game, but just by the fact you got something in tells me that at least the writers/developers think you are doing fine job.(who shall remain nameless) tell me I shouldn't care if my work gets any traction
Thank you for apologizing, ngl that really made me angry and kind of hurt my feelings so its good to know it wasn't intentional. And you're right about the conviction stuff.Fuck, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I was being a moron and didn't read the room right.
I meant that not everybody has the conviction to actually put the work in and make their ideas reality, myself included.
I still have the Google doc for one of my ideas front and center on my bookmarks bar, plus theres some other cool shit i came up with, but I know theyre nothing but a pipe dreams.
No prob. I hope you hit your stride in things soon!Thank you for apologizing, ngl that really made me angry and kind of hurt my feelings so its good to know it wasn't intentional. And you're right about the conviction stuff.
Oh no, I didn't mean you, it was somebody else. That's true, I know some stuff will appeal to people more than others, especially when it comes to these games. And I appreciate you saying so, they probably do, it would just have been nice if more people cared. I do feel a bit better having talked about it though. Thank you!Sorry if it came of like that. Often times it is not the quality of your writing that gets you attention, but the themes/audience/fandoms you target. I can not speak for your TiTs since I no longer engage with that game, but just by the fact you got something in tells me that at least the writers/developers think you are doing fine job.
Thank you for saying so, I appreciate it!No prob. I hope you hit your stride in things soon!
I'd recommend reading nsfw fanfics and the like to help inspire you and give you an idea of how stuff like that is written. Plus stuff in the games themselves of course. It can seem daunting but once you start and get into a daily rhythm it gets easier!Building on the conviction thing.... tbh I think if I really buckled down I could probably get something made. The issue is I have no idea how to write nsfw stuff, so that really limits my options....
You know what, maybe I will! Thanks man!I'd recommend reading nsfw fanfics and the like to help inspire you and give you an idea of how stuff like that is written. Plus stuff in the games themselves of course. It can seem daunting but once you start and get into a daily rhythm it gets easier!
No worries, best of luck with the writing! I'm sure you'll do great!You know what, maybe I will! Thanks man!
I'll probably start small. Maybe a few items....
Drop the link pretty pleaseYou did write for quite niche NPCs, so maybe that is the reason why your stuff did gather much buzz. One of them was also a guy, so it did not help. As said, try writing something for AO3. Even someone like me who is a newbice when it comes to writing in english has gathered quite a following there.
You are responsible for the Abel footjob, innit? Liked it.Maybe so, but its still disheartening and having one person (who shall remain nameless) tell me I shouldn't care if my work gets any traction or not and imply I was wrong for doing so and have another person imply I'm shit at it doesn't incentivise me to write for this game anymore anyway. I'm not saying I wanted a standing ovation or anything but acting like I should just ignore the fact that nobody really cared and keep carrying on with the same level of passion regardless is ridiculous. I had a lot of ideas I wanted to get in eventually but it seems kind of pointless, especially when this is the audience I'm writing for. I've pretty much abandoned this place, I just said I'd chime in since my own experience seemed relevant and I get shat on. Its hard not to be a little bitter. Its funny you mention AO3, I actually have written a fanfiction recently that I'm going to be posting on there soon after I do a bit more polishing. I hope people like it and if they do I'll be writing a lot more on there too.
Thank you so much for saying so, I really appreciate it!You are responsible for the Abel footjob, innit? Liked it.
Plus its disheartening if you take that plunge but what you write gets barely any attention or feedback. It doesn't exactly incentivise you to keep doing it. Speaking from personal experience.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me and I really appreciate your advice. And you are right, I just sort of feel like when it comes to Trials its even more of an uphill battle compared to CoC2 due to the age of the game and the sheer amount of content in it. Admittedly, it has been pointed out to me that the content I wrote for was relatively niche compared to other parts of the game, so that probably played a factor too and as you pointed out it was for older characters. I do have ideas for my own characters which maybe I'll return to in the future if I feel the impetus and really get my Trials writing mojo back, although its a very big maybe. In the meantime, I'm just gonna focus on my fanfiction writing. I'm delighted to hear that you're grateful for what I wrote though, it makes me feel a lot better!You've just got to suck that up, sorry. People will be around to cheerlead you when you declare you're going to write something, and maybe if you're very active about promoting yourself and getting art done of your OCs and whatnot you can build yourself a little fanbase on social media, but the hard reality is that once you're in the middle of it it's just going to be you and the page, nobody else. And maybe what you produce sucks and that's the reason nobody wants to engage with it. In which case the only solution is to go away and practice, again a hard and often lonely pursuit.
Positive feedback is a wonderful thing, don't get me wrong. But other people can't press the keys for you. Only by producing consistently can you get people's attention.
EDIT: This conversation went on longer than I saw, and I didn't wish to imply that what you did produce for TiTS was poor quality either, it wasn't - I'm actually grateful you did something for one of my own characters. One of the unfortunate realities of this game is that the audience is much less ready to recognise work done on existing characters and areas than they are on New and Shiny Things.
There's also this post from a moderator with the title:Couch said:
This thread exists as a void for people to throw ideas into so that they don't flood the rest of the forum with them. Nothing that goes in here has been or ever will be implemented, because every person who writes for the game already has far more ideas for content than we could ever possibly hope to implement. We are not short of ideas, we're short of people willing and able to do the actual work of writing their ideas. The only way that new content is ever added to this game is when someone stops expecting other people to write their idea for them and writes it themselves.
After seeing this kind of post, it's no wonder not many people are going to volunteer to write for the game. Are there very many people who would volunteer or apply for a job and come in for training after being given this sort of motivation at an interview? Sure, it can deter writers who aren't sure if they'll keep writing until they finish a project and that might not be too serious about a project, but it can also turn away passionate writers that might actually want to contribute something out of love for it, too.Magic Ted said:
Hello. Your idea is bad.
The idea subforum is here for two joint purposes; first, throwing shit at the wall by a bunch of people who have no actual desire to go through with it and write it themselves. These people are just here to raise their post counts, as they certainly won't inspire anyone outside of, MAYBE, discussion on various abilities and other non-character/submission things. Second; for authors to refine their content in hopes of one day writing it.
As you might imagine we only really get one sort of poster here. Your would-be idea will likely be ignored if not outright mocked and, let's be honest here, even if you come in with a plan to actually do it you're going to flake, aren't you? It's a daunting task made all the worse by the variable nature of TiTs; if there was a single protaganist character you could write for? Sure! A faceless slate with potential-tits and naughty bits? Rather difficult, with the word count easily ranging upwards to five thousand at a simple minimum.
That's a lot of work. It's unlikely you're going to do it. That's fine, just temper your expectations and realize that, hey, you probably aren't gonna inspire anyone.
This may be a chicken or the egg situation but from what I've seen, most people who already play the game don't care to write for it. And these games haven't had their player numbers improve in a good while so writers who aren't already in the fandom aren't getting into them either. So even if that message was removed it's unlikely anything would change.After seeing this kind of post, it's no wonder not many people are going to volunteer to write for the game. Are there very many people who would volunteer or apply for a job and come in for training after being given this sort of motivation at an interview? Sure, it can deter writers who aren't sure if they'll keep writing until they finish a project and that might not be too serious about a project, but it can also turn away passionate writers that might actually want to contribute something out of love for it, too. This post is, not surprisingly, a great way to encourage potential recruits.
I do know removing it wouldn't really change anything now. What I meant was that, at the time of its creation, it may have been one of many factors that contributed to a lack of writers, but I don't exactly have a way of tracking player numbers or how many writers joined the development team over several years of Trials in Tainted Space's history. What computer program would be able to display a statistical table of this information from a specific website? I'm not too heavily knowledgeable about computer programs and tools. Could I find it with a search engine search?This may be a chicken or the egg situation but from what I've seen, most people who already play the game don't care to write for it. And these games haven't had their player numbers improve in a good while so writers who aren't already in the fandom aren't getting into them either. So even if that message was removed it's unlikely anything would change.