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Paradox01

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All I would even be asking for is a male Valkyrie.
May as well ask for a male banshee. They're female because they're female.

It sounds like some people here have no idea what a valkyrie is, so here's the Wikipedia page.
 

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And do we get to keep our PCs race?
Considering how other God-tf deals work, they'll probably (irreversably) change your race. Valkyrie is the race of the Boreal Elves who were Lumia's strong servants (in this setting), so your race will become Valkyrie (or at least, Boreal Elf) if you take the deal.
I didn't want to kill her so I have yet to do that.
She stays alive after beating her, though I don't think you can interact afterwards.
 
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May as well ask for a male banshee. They're female because they're female.

It sounds like some people here have no idea what a valkyrie is, so here's the Wikipedia page.
Sometimes it seems like all the best stuff is female locked in these games. That is probably just because I don't play females and don't notice all the male locked things. If Valkyries ever do get added I will probably make a shemale since someone said that is possible. Minotaurs in CoC1 were pretty cool. I always played as a human, dragon, or minotaur.
 

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I am not overly familiar with Norse Mythology I will be honest but in God of War the Valkyries were gods themselves not mortals.
Yeah, I'd suggest skimming the original mythology and not going off the 'some liberties were taken' version. xD

Your point about them requiring sex to be created I would say is moot considering the fact I am using Angel in a generic sense.
You miss the point. Thematically speaking, having valkyries fits setting because the way people become one in the actual mythology fits how they work in CoC2. And in the case of Wagner's take on the valkyries, it's just hilariously appropriate because about half the cast of the operas who aren't the gods are descended from Wotan (in The Valkyrie it's literally eleven out of fourteen characters who call Wotan daddy). Randy bastard really got around. That sort of thing fits Savarra to a T.

Also, y'know, it fits with the whole boer'alvar cultural model.

Also also I thought a Valkyrie's job was to choose which half of the slain warriors could go to heaven not to actually fight anyone?
That's their primary task and what their name means, but they go about in armor and carrying spear and shield and they do sometimes get depicted as fighting. Check out Helgakviða Hundingsbana I for an example.
 
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Yeah, I'd suggest skimming the original mythology and not going off the 'some liberties were taken' version. xD
Are you implying that liberties will not be taken when implementing them in CoC2? I highly doubt they will be choosing slain warriors to take to Valhalla to become Einherjar and fight against Ragnarok. Which if they are not doing the thing they are named after that is a pretty big "liberty" I would say.
 

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No, I'm saying that you shouldn't base your idea of what valkyries are from what one video game did.:p And generally that you should consider looking at the source mythology, it's really good stuff.
 
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No, I'm saying that you shouldn't base your idea on what valkyries are based on what one video game did. :p
Well considering Valkyries are completely fictional there is no correct interpretation of them. You can base your idea of them on whatever you want. I don't see anywhere in the wikipedia entry about them being mortals so I don't know where you got that from. It mentions them falling in love with mortals or walking among them but nothing about them being chosen mortals and Valkyrie just being a job. Not saying you are wrong just that I do not see in on the article.
 

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Well considering Valkyries are completely fictional there is no correct interpretation of them. You can base your idea of them on whatever you want.
Yes, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to completely throw out the mythology 'just because you can'. Valkyries are female, full stop. They have a number of associated attributes that are consistent across the accounts. As I already mentioned, having valkyries as they're depicted in the myths fits the boer'alvar cultural aesthetic.

I don't see anywhere in the wikipedia entry about them being mortals so I don't know where you got that from.
Ummm, right in the first paragraph?
Wikipedia said:
Valkyries also appear as lovers of heroes and other mortals, where they are sometimes described as the daughters of royalty, sometimes accompanied by ravens and sometimes connected to swans or horses.
If you read the summaries of the poems in the Poetic Edda, you'll note several specific examples are provided.
 

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Do you see how this
When it's described, valkyries are chosen from mortals and given the job
Is very different from this?
"Valkyries also appear as lovers of heroes and other mortals, where they are sometimes described as the daughters of royalty, sometimes accompanied by ravens and sometimes connected to swans or horses." It says *also* and *sometimes* meaning most of them are not that.
 

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Hence 'when it's described', it's not my fault if you read that as some kind of absolute. Meanwhile all of my points about why valkyries fit the setting and why they aren't going to be changed to allow male ones still stand. This is getting wildly off-topic so how about we just drop it before we derail the thread any further?
 

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Frying pan as a one handed weapon (+20 to crits bcuz random crits are fair and balanced as our lord and savior said so) , is there any chance for interacting with your offspring outside of birthing scene?
 

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is there any chance for interacting with your offspring outside of birthing scene?
As been said many many many times; No, not unless those offspring are full characters. And given how babies are slow growers in this game excluding the one, maybe two instances (And Evergreen too but doesn't count in this case), interacting with offspring is very unlikely to happen by itself. You're not getting nursery interactions here.
 

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Beating your foes with a pan then using it to cook delicious meals ?

:yes:
 
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The thing about the 'classic' angel of a winged human is that is not what the original Angel is at all. That image of an angel was put onto the biblical angels when Graeco-Roman culture started influencing Christianity. That image actually originates from Nike, the Greek Goddess of victory.

This is what the original biblical angels looked like:
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The thing about the 'classic' angel of a winged human is that is not what the original Angel is at all. That image of an angel was put onto the biblical angels when Graeco-Roman culture started influencing Christianity. That image actually originates from Nike, the Greek Goddess of victory.

This is what the original biblical angels looked like:
iu
I popped back in to share a pic of the original biblical angels and you beat me to it. Well done, sir!
 

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The thing about the 'classic' angel of a winged human is that is not what the original Angel is at all. That image of an angel was put onto the biblical angels when Graeco-Roman culture started influencing Christianity. That image actually originates from Nike, the Greek Goddess of victory.

This is what the original biblical angels looked like:
iu

No wonder they introduced themselves by saying "be not afraid". Those things look straight out of some JRPG or Kirby game. I'm pretty glad those aren't the mainstream designs, even if they are the original.
 

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No wonder they introduced themselves by saying "be not afraid". Those things look straight out of some JRPG or Kirby game. I'm pretty glad those aren't the mainstream designs, even if they are the original.

Yeah, series like SMT are all about stuff like this. It'd be pretty funny if it was in the game honestly.

"You started your journey as a human, but have become an eldritch abomination over the course of your adventures"
 

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So a kitsune?

I can't speak everyone else, but I'd rather be a fluffy, mostly human looking, pseudo vampire. As opposed to a big, ironically unholy looking, ball of terror and judgement.