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A bad end(?) where Kasyrra succeeds and makes everyone into demons and all that, but leaves you, and only you, intact -mentally, if nothing else- as Aileh lays her claim on you, leaving you to live the rest of your life next to Aileh while you have fun fucking with your corrupted companions and friends. Probably would be a corrupted Champ only ending.

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Damn, the thread got deleted? That's a shame, I was really hoping that would go somewhere since I liked what I saw too.
Hello! I'm the writer for that thread/doc. It was taken out of view because it needed approval from a a moderator. It is now up, so you can go view it.
 
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More of a fun thought for late-game stuff than anything, but if you're doing a corrupted champion playthrough I think it'd be fun to be able to bully Etheryn into becoming a demon, since she doesn't want to be locked up all her life. And more or less dragging along Cait against her better judgment or with dubious consent, through some sort of argument like "it's the only way she'd be able to get Calla back". Brienne doesn't seem like she'd mind, as long as the champion themselves keeps their soul.
Maybe you'd even be able to get Agni through some sort of wordplay, give her so much more to explore and experience by becoming a demon, and possibly exploring another world if Kass manages to fix a portal

I just like the idea of talking circles around the companions and friends, using their wants to twist their words against them to corrupt them into becoming infatuated -or more than usual- with Champ. Just imagine Champ collecting everyone's soul stones like they're collecting stones for the infinity gauntlet.
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Also imagine when low-confidence Ryn does turn, and we get to direct (read: control) her transformation a la Berwyn/Wynne because she's so dependent on the Champ at that point
 
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If you have high enough corruption, and (low confidence etheryn, at least) Etheryn maybe having the buttslut perk, you should be able to ram your cock up her ass monstrously
 
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How exactly will The Demon of Ice resolution even go if you consult Lumia first? I feel like you are just opening another Pandora's Box with one of the Gods, just snapping away a character's defining problem with no effort. People are already annoyed with how the Gods are involved in the story, I feel this would only make it worse.
 

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I mean, Ryn still needs to deal with Alissa in order to become the queen rather than the regent because that's how Njorhaalt's laws work and that's really as much a part of the quest as the cage itself. The cage coming off early removes one motivation to go to Dracia but it's not really the most important one, just the most intimate.
 

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That might have worked if I cared about Alissa outside of her relationship with Ryn, I don't. I sailed to a remote island to deal with Alissa, not because she is a threatening villain that needs to be defeated, but because I hate her and want to bash her head in. Ryn's most defining characteristic at the start is the abuse she recieved from Alissa and the cage is the biggest symbol of that. Dealing with that in a way that is completely detached from Alissa is, maybe lore-wise interchangeable; but it ruins any emotional attachment I'd have towards that plotline.
 

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Is it possible to add a character similar to Bee (Queen of Gluttony) from Helluva Boss in-game? She doesn't exactly have to be the Queen of Gluttony but I would like to have someone like her as a character in there whether as a companion or an npc, just as long as you have the choice to either have a physical or romantic relationship with them. Just like with Cait. Though if they were gonna add her, she would probably fit TiTs more than CoC2 since Bee is a party girl.
 

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TF's into the elementally touched creatures like the hellhound and the water wyrd. Not necessarily done with a TF item, since the game so far implies it's no simple thing to become one of these. Maybe closer to a Soulbind, something with permanent/semi-permanent consequences (but perhaps without breaking Kasyrra's poor, black heart) the happens via a quest or event.

In a world where one of the writers is taken with this suggestion, lastly I'd suggest to not go for the options mentioned above, but maybe introduce a new type? Maybe have the Champion become the first version of this hypothetical creature the player meets in the game.
 

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TF's into the elementally touched creatures like the hellhound and the water wyrd. Not necessarily done with a TF item, since the game so far implies it's no simple thing to become one of these. Maybe closer to a Soulbind, something with permanent/semi-permanent consequences (but perhaps without breaking Kasyrra's poor, black heart) the happens via a quest or event.

In a world where one of the writers is taken with this suggestion, lastly I'd suggest to not go for the options mentioned above, but maybe introduce a new type? Maybe have the Champion become the first version of this hypothetical creature the player meets in the game.
What, like becoming some kind of Fire Lion or Thunder Mouse or something? That would be nice to have. The only tfs we got that is close to being elemental are the Salamanders and the Artic Vulperines tfs.
 
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What, like becoming some kind of Fire Lion or Thunder Mouse or something? That would be nice to have. The only tfs we got that is close to being elemental are the Salamanders and the Artic Vulperines tfs.
Not even necessarily animal based, though probably. The lack of a proper dragon TF for the player, for example, that could be a good fit for this idea. Maybe the kitsune could introduce us to a Sun Wukong type for a monkey version. What's better than monster girls and magical girls? Magical monster girls.
 
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Zarkrai

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Not even necessarily animal based, though probably. The lack of a proper dragon TF for the player, for example, that could be a good fit for this idea. Maybe the kitsune could introduce us to a Sun Wukong type for a monkey version. What's better than monster girls and magical girls? Magical monster girls.
If they EVER add a monkey tfs. I'm gonna make them look like SSJ4. It could even become an actual build if they add a super saiyan or even kaioken-like ability and make that monkey npc teach us a whole set of unarmed combat style that we can do. We can't even do basic unarmed attack yet cause the game won't let us unequip the weapons completely.
 

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I want to see more options that let you stay a virgin. I've been trying to keep my virtue intact as a fun challenge for my second playthrough now, but it's been difficult for the wrong reasons. There's a lot of characters where, for some reason, instigating sex for the first time forces you to have penetrating sex, such as Brint and Garret. At least for some, like Brint, I can still have fun with them via threesome, but it's not the same.

During most of the first-time scenes, it keeps track that you are(/were) a virgin going in, why not at the very least have a check going in making it clear that it's your virginity or nothing and allowing you to back off, if not do some other non-penetrating scene? I get the want for having a specific scene for the first time, but it's rather annoying because there's already comparatively few (non-enemy) male characters to play with, and this just narrows my options further. Thank god for Quin who just brings you to the normal options, which actually has a decent selection of non-penetrative sex.

Also, while on the topic, some more indications of what is penetrative and what's not would be nice, especially when it doesn't always follow the same rules. Post-fight sex with the Alrune and her tentacles somehow still left me with an intact hymen and virgin butt, but then doing it again with the repeatable option leaves me gaping, even though the language in the scenes themselves was the same/similar (essentially saying tentacles in both scenes went everywhere). More non-penetrative scenes would be nice too, but I understand writing the new scenes is probably harder than adding a pop-up description or check for existing ones.

Edit: also the option for pregnancy while a virgin would be fun
 

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I want to see more options that let you stay a virgin. I've been trying to keep my virtue intact as a fun challenge for my second playthrough now, but it's been difficult for the wrong reasons. There's a lot of characters where, for some reason, instigating sex for the first time forces you to have penetrating sex, such as Brint and Garret. At least for some, like Brint, I can still have fun with them via threesome, but it's not the same.

During most of the first-time scenes, it keeps track that you are(/were) a virgin going in, why not at the very least have a check going in making it clear that it's your virginity or nothing and allowing you to back off, if not do some other non-penetrating scene? I get the want for having a specific scene for the first time, but it's rather annoying because there's already comparatively few (non-enemy) male characters to play with, and this just narrows my options further. Thank god for Quin who just brings you to the normal options, which actually has a decent selection of non-penetrative sex.

Also, while on the topic, some more indications of what is penetrative and what's not would be nice, especially when it doesn't always follow the same rules. Post-fight sex with the Alrune and her tentacles somehow still left me with an intact hymen and virgin butt, but then doing it again with the repeatable option leaves me gaping, even though the language in the scenes themselves was the same/similar (essentially saying tentacles in both scenes went everywhere). More non-penetrative scenes would be nice too, but I understand writing the new scenes is probably harder than adding a pop-up description or check for existing ones.

Edit: also the option for pregnancy while a virgin would be fun
I'm pretty sure being pregnant while at the same time being a virgin is literally impossible. And even if you did manage to do that somehow, you would still be losing your virginity once you give birth since it would be pushing forcefully through your hymen which I would imagine to be ever more painful with regular birthing on top of that.
 
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I'm pretty sure being pregnant while at the same time being a virgin is literally impossible. And even if you did manage to do that somehow, you would still be losing your virginity once you give birth since it would be pushing forcefully through your hymen which I would imagine to be ever more painful with regular birthing on top of that.
That or you and your child will become the pillars of a new world religion, but there will be problems, someone will think that Camp should be honored more, some people think the child is more important and someone will think about who is the real father? Plus there's a greater chance that the kid's life is going to be, to put it mildly, a mess.
 

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I want to see more options that let you stay a virgin. I've been trying to keep my virtue intact as a fun challenge for my second playthrough now, but it's been difficult for the wrong reasons. There's a lot of characters where, for some reason, instigating sex for the first time forces you to have penetrating sex, such as Brint and Garret. At least for some, like Brint, I can still have fun with them via threesome, but it's not the same.
I mean, you're playing a porn game so when you approach bedicked characters for sex there's a general assumption that they might want to use it on you and you might be interested in getting fucked. Especially if they're (primarily) tops. One of those general writing assumptions along with the Champ being pan is that that the Champ is interested in sex, and the player is interested in sex.
During most of the first-time scenes, it keeps track that you are(/were) a virgin going in, why not at the very least have a check going in making it clear that it's your virginity or nothing and allowing you to back off, if not do some other non-penetrating scene?
Because this isn't a game where virginity is a serious consideration, so writing that accounts for it represents a vast minority of the content. It would be extra effort to mandate that every sex scene include a virginity check and an opt-out option, for something that the vast majority of the players and writers don't care about. It's the same reason why the devs don't mandate detailed pregnancy content and child interactions, because that would result in fewer submissions.

And in general, virginity checks are exceedingly rare because they become exponentially less likely to be seen the farther into the game you get. There's nothing preventing somebody from writing them (Aly did a full set of then for Annika despite how far into the game you need to get to meet her) but it's not something that most people are going to bother with.
Also, while on the topic, some more indications of what is penetrative and what's not would be nice, especially when it doesn't always follow the same rules. Post-fight sex with the Alrune and her tentacles somehow still left me with an intact hymen and virgin butt
You can bug-report this, but I suspect it was deliberate for players who for some reason want to do a virgin run (and don't want to kill her) in the same way that sitting on Evelyn's lap doesn't count for virginity purposes, the latter case being something that would automatically lock out her virginity scenes before the player can even get to them. Bear in mind that Evelyn shows up a day into the start of the story, so she's early enough that a substantial chuck of the player base might still have a v-card or two by the time they meet her.
That or you and your child will become the pillars of a new world religion, but there will be problems, someone will think that Camp should be honored more, some people think the child is more important and someone will think about who is the real father?
Years later Cait reveals that she was messing around with portal magic a la the Halloween sequence and accidentally teleported one of her spell components (don't ask why fresh cum was needed, Jassiran trade secret) into the Champ by accident. This inadvertently spawned the offshoot Caitholic Church that treats her somewhere between a divinity and a saint.

And no, she doesn't remember exactly where she got the cum from.
 
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Tiffye

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I'm pretty sure being pregnant while at the same time being a virgin is literally impossible. And even if you did manage to do that somehow, you would still be losing your virginity once you give birth since it would be pushing forcefully through your hymen which I would imagine to be ever more painful with regular birthing on top of that.
While becoming pregnant while a (speaking purely penetratively) virgin is very unlikely, it's not impossible, even without breaking the hymen. It's happened in real life. You can just scoop cum into your snatch or have them deposit directly with just the tip/at the entrance, and fluids can still travel through even with an intact hymen or else period blood wouldn't be able to escape. I just imagine there'd be a fertility hit with an intact hymen. Of course, the hymen would break come the birth, but you'd still be a virgin. In those cases, in the description they can get rid of the intact hymen but keep the "virgin/unused/etc" descriptor (though some of the word choices might be debatable) to make up for the discrepancy.

Week late edit: turns out you can have an ovilixer and then give birth to an (unfertilized) egg as a virgin, and the game will still say you have an intact hymen.

I mean, you're playing a porn game so when you approach bedicked characters for sex there's a general assumption that they might want to use it on you and you might be interested in getting fucked. Especially if they're (primarily) tops. One of those general writing assumptions along with the Champ being pan that the Champ is interested in sex, and the player is interested in sex.
Sex doesn't need to be penetrative, as seen by the many other options one can have with most other characters. I know it's uncommon and not the focus, and as such I understand why there's less options for it in its current state, but seeing as it's a game still under development, I'm allowed to suggest, no? I believe toying with virginity can be fun, and if the devs don't care about it at all then why even have it in the game in the first place? If you want to be realistic about it, then in a world like this, why would we even start out as virgins? Besides, these checks could just be a couple of paragraphs if that.

And in general, virginity checks are exceedingly rare because they become exponentially less likely to be seen the farther into the game you get.
This is understandable for some characters, but I don't see why there shouldn't be some for characters you meet very early game, such as the aforementioned Brint and Garret.
 
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Besides, these checks could just be a couple of paragraphs if that.
That's still a couple of paragraphs of extra work for every bit of content that you think would benefit from one, which adds up very quickly, for a fairly limited demographic.
This is understandable for some characters, but I don't see why there shouldn't be some for characters you meet very early game, such as the aforementioned Brint and Garret.
It's entirely down to whether the writers for any given characters want to. Brint actually has a variation for virgins, but Wsan clearly didn't think it important enough to write a special variation for people who don't want to get dicked down and instead gave you the option to back out if you don't want that. Like I said above, writing variations to cater to a very small demographic adds up and also takes time away from writing literally anything else that they might actually care about doing, which was Savin's explicit rationale for not writing one for Cait when he was already going back through her content to tweak a bunch of things in her big expac. You can even read Wsan's thoughts on writing for an audience and the general assumptions that can be made about writing a minotaur here, for why he wrote Brint the way he did and why he's extremely unlikely to change that.

Again, it's not to say that people can't write this stuff but in an effort-to-reward analysis there's very little reason for most people to bother.
 

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Playing with the virginity thing can absolutely be hot. I do a lot of runs like that as well - either with some arbitrary rules like oral ok, etc, or running a full goody-two-shoes run until an "accidental" intake of bimbo brew/succubi milk/etc turns them into a horny mess. I get how it can be a PITA on the writing-side, but it's awesome when it's acknowleged.
 

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If they EVER add a monkey tfs. I'm gonna make them look like SSJ4. It could even become an actual build if they add a super saiyan or even kaioken-like ability and make that monkey npc teach us a whole set of unarmed combat style that we can do. We can't even do basic unarmed attack yet cause the game won't let us unequip the weapons completely.
Charmer extended Blessing is already a kaioken. Add Calm Mind or Kiaijutsu or some other buff and tada!
Alternatively Holy Ward stance (imagine it giving you blue outline) + Fire Within (red outline) and you can go even farther beyond!
 

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Is it possible to add ability to import bigger character pictures?

What I mean here is that in game in character menu in journal we have icon/avatar picture to the left and empty space to the right that companions use for "full body view". Is it possible to also allow player to have space there to import bigger pictures of their characters?
 

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I imagine it's technically possible but functionally impractical, since image data gets stored in the save file and adding another megabyte or five would make them harder for the game to work with. Also Drake has said that there's a hard limit on how big the overall save data can be for the browser version that he's had to optimize around so that's probably the biggest consideration, and Savin mentions it here too.

It's the same basic idea behind why the game could but doesn't have body-part equivalents to remembering your starting race for pregnancy or 'Hey, like the new look but weren't you a catfolk yesterday?' purposes. Well, that and I doubt any of the writers really want to deal with that much parser soup...