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Tide Hunter

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Honestly, I kinda like Quint. He's far from my favorite companion, and in terms of part composition I generally prefer to bring literally anybody else for gameplay, but story-wise his interactions with cult-related content is interesting enough to draw me into actually engaging with him. It's unfortunate how missing it is though, and usually if you're interested enough to bring someone along you're likely already willing to engage with them. His interesting hooks don't happen early enough.
 

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I second hating Quint, he's just so misogynistic, it pisses me off. But also huge yes please to more Cait/Ryn/Champ anything, especially soft stuff like cuddles. Those are my wives, I wanna snuggle with them.
 

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I don't hate him. I just don't like his vibe. I enjoy his scenes well enough, but his skill kit doesn't mesh well with what I have going on.

I am perfectly content for him to be a productive citizen of my Barony. Lord knows my wayfort maids are insatiable. If I could throw him at THAT problem, I would.
 

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I would like high confidence Run if she was not so... boring. If she kept some of her low confidence characteristics, sure; and not just seemingly get over years of abuse with couple of hugs here and there.
But, as she is now, she just doesn't feel to distinguished compared to her low confidence self.
Almost like she uses being around you as a way to forget all of that, but sure she just suddenly forgets it.
 

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Honestly, I kinda like Quint. He's far from my favorite companion, and in terms of part composition I generally prefer to bring literally anybody else for gameplay, but story-wise his interactions with cult-related content is interesting enough to draw me into actually engaging with him. It's unfortunate how missing it is though, and usually if you're interested enough to bring someone along you're likely already willing to engage with them. His interesting hooks don't happen early enough.

I started out not liking Quint much at all but once the newer stuff came out with him getting his armor and stuff like that I am starting to like him now. I don't usually bring him along as a teammate but i don't dislike him now at least but yeah that stuff came too late for a lot of people.

Oh here's something i should have thought of. Just being able to choose Cait as a sleeping partner. I dont' think you can. Which you know she might be off fuckin so maybe that's the idea is she might not be available often but it is surprisng that, even if she won't group sleep, you can't just sleep with her unless you just got done fucking at the right time.
 

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Could we get clear indicators of which of Ryns sex options lower or raise her confidence and possibly libido, like the brothel worker in Khor'minos?

Of all the things the wiki shouldn't be necessary for this is one of them, especially as we have decently descriptive set of tags for a non companion characters.
 

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Could we get clear indicators of which of Ryns sex options lower or raise her confidence and possibly libido, like the brothel worker in Khor'minos?

Of all the things the wiki shouldn't be necessary for this is one of them, especially as we have decently descriptive set of tags for a non companion characters.
I feel like confidence should be relatively clear from just how they're worded. Doing things that are forcefully and clearly for your own pleasure (feeding her her cum, insisting on fucking her when you're too big, and doing facefucking) are clearly degrading, so of course they lower confidence. Meanwhile, tenderly fucking her or massaging her balls without the weird cumplay, and letting her go at her own pace when doing a blowjob, have some establishment of her self worth. It isn't outright showing the increases and decreases to the bar, sure, but it shouldn't really need to if you're reading the names and tooltips and thinking about them.
 

Acharehnus

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Not really given the degradation scenes also change if she's high confidence and some of them effect her scores from the start.

Like...just some indication when you hover over the choices is all I'm asking for. Please don't tell me that's to hard or beyond the scope of the game. Feel like the only point of the request thread sometimes is for other players to tell you why your request wont happen.
 

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I thought to raise Ryns confidence was the hugs and telling her to buy the doll from the caravan lot..
 

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Ryn's confidence and libido are separate stats. Hugs and the doll raise her confidence but not her libido. Specifically high con high libido Ryn is likely the one that's into the more forceful scenes, which I guess is her accepting she's a kinky sub but that doesn't make her lesser.
 
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I second hating Quint, he's just so misogynistic, it pisses me off. But also huge yes please to more Cait/Ryn/Champ anything, especially soft stuff like cuddles. Those are my wives, I wanna snuggle with them.
Can you explain why you feel he's misogynistic? (This is a genuine, completely unhostile question, as I've never gotten that vibe from him.)

I enjoy Quin a lot, personally. But I also think BubbleLord's preferences/tone when writing aren't necessarily going to be right for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with it not being for you.
 
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Can you explain why you feel he's misogynistic? (This is a genuine, completely unhostile question, as I've never gotten that vibe from him.)

I enjoy Quin a lot, personally. But I also think BubbleLord's preferences/tone when writing aren't necessarily going to be right for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with it not being for you.
Sure! it's the way he talks about every woman he ever talks about - as if he sees them as nothing but sex objects. Maybe that's hypocritical of me to say in a game about fuckin, but the thing that I like most about this game are the interesting characters, they're actually likeable people, that's way hotter and nicer, and oftentimes the storyline (especially with Kas's longterm redemption arc for example) take center stage for me over the sex. Anyway, I digress, Quinn just acts like every woman he's ever seen is relevant only in whether or not they'll fuck him. Which really doesn't make him feel like, a redeemed cult member or a cult member who's trying to be better, it makes it feel like the only part of the cult he objected to was that he wasn't in control and he had to take orders, rather than their evil acts. It's a similar way to how I feel about Takahiro, who also disgusts me, so maybe that's something to do with Bubs - though, honestly, I hate Takahiro more, one time the scene I was offered with him in a game before I was able to remove those entirely involved him forcing a girl to drink booze so he could fuck her, and I think including what's basically date rape in this game is gross - again, maybe hypocritical, but something that's truly disgusting for me to see.
 

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I want a Gwyneth expansion. Yes she does like the PC and is completely fine with being a puppy mill for them, but you don't really have a relationship with her. Going on a date with her would be nice at least, and the option to snuggle at bedtime. I'll take anything at this point.
 

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Almost like she uses being around you as a way to forget all of that, but sure she just suddenly forgets it.
Fair point. My dissatisfaction with her is that the things that gravitated me to liking her steamed from the fact that she was a shy, overtly subby girl that had a dick. So when her entire expansion and confidence mechanic removes a lot of her desirable edges and just makes her somewhat subby girl with hero complex -: like we do not have many of those -- which ia a downgrade for my taste buds. Furthermore, I still stand that the progression from the diminutive trainwreck of a girl to a "capable, fully confident ruler" is to drastic of a U-turn; even for a game that is by design meant to spread through character arcs like a manager through a check list. In my opinion, just one step bellow the departure that is Brienne compared to Brint.
Especially if we include her high libido self, for that is just Cait with permanent strap-on tied to her crotch when it comes to a niche.

Still, disregarding her libido state, I do think that the whole confidence mechanic is positive successful mechanic, if in just how different the two of Ryns are. And while I did present my somewhat overblown distaste for high confidence Queen without much tact, it doesn't change the fact that the "Dutches of Rim", as Alissa put, is one of my favorites NPCs in this game. So as long as I do get more of her, I am all set.
 
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Sure! it's the way he talks about every woman he ever talks about - as if he sees them as nothing but sex objects. Maybe that's hypocritical of me to say in a game about fuckin, but the thing that I like most about this game are the interesting characters, they're actually likeable people, that's way hotter and nicer, and oftentimes the storyline (especially with Kas's longterm redemption arc for example) take center stage for me over the sex. Anyway, I digress, Quinn just acts like every woman he's ever seen is relevant only in whether or not they'll fuck him. Which really doesn't make him feel like, a redeemed cult member or a cult member who's trying to be better, it makes it feel like the only part of the cult he objected to was that he wasn't in control and he had to take orders, rather than their evil acts. It's a similar way to how I feel about Takahiro, who also disgusts me, so maybe that's something to do with Bubs - though, honestly, I hate Takahiro more, one time the scene I was offered with him in a game before I was able to remove those entirely involved him forcing a girl to drink booze so he could fuck her, and I think including what's basically date rape in this game is gross - again, maybe hypocritical, but something that's truly disgusting for me to see.

Oh, yeah, I can definitely understand that criticism. I think his character type can be very tricky — when you write the Sexy Bad Boy, there's always a tug-of-war between completely defanging them, which kills the appeal, and exaggerating the "bad boy" traits to the point they become unpalatable as a character. And the line will be quite different from reader to reader, and whether it works in the end depends a lot more on the overall Vibe that's created than on any individual technical or content factor.

I am a reader who finds that kind of objectification and lechery pretty sexy (Kelt is one of my favorite bits of COC classic), so it doesn't bother me or stand out as a strong negative, but I get why it would for many other people. I tend to be the sort of person who doesn't get much out of the softer and more romantic content!

And I agree about Takahiro. I wouldn't say he disgusts me, having mostly paged through his scenes, but I would say the thing he offers is not a thing that really interests me.

Thank you for sharing your point of view!
 

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Oh, yeah, I can definitely understand that criticism. I think his character type can be very tricky — when you write the Sexy Bad Boy, there's always a tug-of-war between completely defanging them, which kills the appeal, and exaggerating the "bad boy" traits to the point they become unpalatable as a character. And the line will be quite different from reader to reader, and whether it works in the end depends a lot more on the overall Vibe that's created than on any individual technical or content factor.

I am a reader who finds that kind of objectification and lechery pretty sexy (Kelt is one of my favorite bits of COC classic), so it doesn't bother me or stand out as a strong negative, but I get why it would for many other people. I tend to be the sort of person who doesn't get much out of the softer and more romantic content!

And I agree about Takahiro. I wouldn't say he disgusts me, having mostly paged through his scenes, but I would say the thing he offers is not a thing that really interests me.

Thank you for sharing your point of view!
I just want to say that this is a very respectful and healthy way to talk about things, and I appreciate y'all conducting this conversation with this level of discourse.
 

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possibly not happening at any time soon if ever again but, closer romantic relationships, there is nothing in the game I like more than Brint's date and proposal and Ryn's date and dreams for a future with her lover. To me, Ahri and Atani's marriages feel more like strong infatuation with a savior since there is a significantly lesser amount of actually getting to know the character and them getting to know the champion, and Rindo's is a full business deal, in short something closer to an eroge dating sim than just "you had sex with me once and saved my people, marry me"
 

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there is nothing in the game I like more than Brint's date and proposal
I don't think Brint has ever proposed to me
But moving on I have a main and 2 flavour PCs and weddings can be a one time scene two years ago.
So a little entry on your character sheet listing spouses, would be handy to avoid social faux pas
 

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I don't think Brint has ever proposed to me
But moving on I have a main and 2 flavour PCs and weddings can be a one time scene two years ago.
So a little entry on your character sheet listing spouses, would be handy to avoid social faux pas
Citrus is either referring to the Christmas scene where he gives you a wedding ring (a scene I personally despise) and his pregnancy scene. Which, if you only play as a guy, you obviously will not get.
 

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I just want to say that this is a very respectful and healthy way to talk about things, and I appreciate y'all conducting this conversation with this level of discourse.
I try! I know it can be hard to draw the line between yucking someone's yum and talking about how I feel about things where I feel negatively about them - but, since the subject had first been raised, and then I was asked about it, I figured I'd try to be pretty explicit.
 
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Oh, yeah, I can definitely understand that criticism. I think his character type can be very tricky — when you write the Sexy Bad Boy, there's always a tug-of-war between completely defanging them, which kills the appeal, and exaggerating the "bad boy" traits to the point they become unpalatable as a character. And the line will be quite different from reader to reader, and whether it works in the end depends a lot more on the overall Vibe that's created than on any individual technical or content factor.

I am a reader who finds that kind of objectification and lechery pretty sexy (Kelt is one of my favorite bits of COC classic), so it doesn't bother me or stand out as a strong negative, but I get why it would for many other people. I tend to be the sort of person who doesn't get much out of the softer and more romantic content!

And I agree about Takahiro. I wouldn't say he disgusts me, having mostly paged through his scenes, but I would say the thing he offers is not a thing that really interests me.

Thank you for sharing your point of view!
Yeah that's absolutely fair! I'm extremely a lesbian, so, that definitely paints my opinions of things, I'm not well-disposed to like dudes who are all about fucking girls that I already am way more interested than them in the first place, so there's for sure personal bias here for me. But like, it's just the... realness of it. Kas's demonic corruption shit or whatever is not something that happens in the real world, fighting someone and then whoever wins fucks the loser isn't something that happens in the real world (to any notable degree at least), but some asshole getting a woman drunk to fuck her and you being unable to do anything about it, or someone being objectifying about women in front of you while you can't stop them, are things that do happen all the time irl, and they're gross and horrible there, so I'm very uninterested in being reminded of them in the game, I think is how it mostly ends up being bad. It's the case of the real evil vs the cartoon evil - no matter how much more evil the cartoon evil shit is, it's not shit that ends up as visceral as the smaller evils we see every day.
 

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Yeah that's absolutely fair! I'm extremely a lesbian, so, that definitely paints my opinions of things, I'm not well-disposed to like dudes who are all about fucking girls that I already am way more interested than them in the first place, so there's for sure personal bias here for me. But like, it's just the... realness of it. Kas's demonic corruption shit or whatever is not something that happens in the real world, fighting someone and then whoever wins fucks the loser isn't something that happens in the real world (to any notable degree at least), but some asshole getting a woman drunk to fuck her and you being unable to do anything about it, or someone being objectifying about women in front of you while you can't stop them, are things that do happen all the time irl, and they're gross and horrible there, so I'm very uninterested in being reminded of them in the game, I think is how it mostly ends up being bad. It's the case of the real evil vs the cartoon evil - no matter how much more evil the cartoon evil shit is, it's not shit that ends up as visceral as the smaller evils we see every day.
Sorry for jumping on the discussion when it seems to be mostly concluded but the thing is though, Cait and Arona do the same thing. When you talk to Arona and Cait about companions and they mention other ppl, it always revolves around sex and how fuckable the girls/boys are (primarily girls for Arona). But you don't hear that much about that from other ppl...I guess bc they're girls.

I do get your point about Quin and Takahiro though. In a porn game where girls are favored over boys, male characters start in a disadvantageous stance just because they're men (unless they're femboys). And most ppl prefer characters that are devoted to champ (see how popular Kiyoko and Brienne are). So from those two points alone, they're on shaky ground and it's really hard to make a male character that ppl don't hate in porn games. I guess Bubs was going for, "slut with the heart of gold," thing like Cait and Brint, but Takahiro and Quin seem to fail in that they lack the charm the former characters have. Honestly, I think Quin and Takahiro just need more content and character development. Like for example: Arona I feel like acts just as fuckboyish as the other those two and maybe even worse considering how she seems to view a lot of women as another fuck but with the recent expansions of her (like the bath scene, expanding pregnancy talk, etc.) made her a lot better and likable as a character.

Also, while I also don't really like how much he talks about how he wants to fuck other women all the time, I think he's like that because he literally is pretty much desperate and horny for sex. If you remember his recruitment scene, he actually rejects to fucking PC in the beginning bc he wants to distance himself from the sex cult stuff. Pc can't fuck him until you recruit him which is at min a week. And even if Pc does recruit him, only ppl he fucks are Rune and maybe other temple harlots, some random enemy mobs(if he's in party), and PC (if they decide to). So unlike other sexually active characters like Cait, Brint, and Arona, he doesn't get much action. So he literally went from fucking all the time from sex cult to barely sleeping with anybody after leaving the cult. And considering how fuck happy everyone is in Savarra, of course he's horny! But as I said though Quin just needs more content in general. Armor set quest was nice and I rlly hope bubbles doesn't get discouraged and keep on writing.
 

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Sorry for jumping on the discussion when it seems to be mostly concluded but the thing is though, Cait and Arona do the same thing. When you talk to Arona and Cait about companions and they mention other ppl, it always revolves around sex and how fuckable the girls/boys are (primarily girls for Arona). But you don't hear that much about that from other ppl...I guess bc they're girls.

I do get your point about Quin and Takahiro though. In a porn game where girls are favored over boys, male characters start in a disadvantageous stance just because they're men (unless they're femboys). And most ppl prefer characters that are devoted to champ (see how popular Kiyoko and Brienne are). So from those two points alone, they're on shaky ground and it's really hard to make a male character that ppl don't hate in porn games. I guess Bubs was going for, "slut with the heart of gold," thing like Cait and Brint, but Takahiro and Quin seem to fail in that they lack the charm the former characters have. Honestly, I think Quin and Takahiro just need more content and character development. Like for example: Arona I feel like acts just as fuckboyish as the other those two and maybe even worse considering how she seems to view a lot of women as another fuck but with the recent expansions of her (like the bath scene, expanding pregnancy talk, etc.) made her a lot better and likable as a character.

Also, while I also don't really like how much he talks about how he wants to fuck other women all the time, I think he's like that because he literally is pretty much desperate and horny for sex. If you remember his recruitment scene, he actually rejects to fucking PC in the beginning bc he wants to distance himself from the sex cult stuff. Pc can't fuck him until you recruit him which is at min a week. And even if Pc does recruit him, only ppl he fucks are Rune and maybe other temple harlots, some random enemy mobs(if he's in party), and PC (if they decide to). So unlike other sexually active characters like Cait, Brint, and Arona, he doesn't get much action. So he literally went from fucking all the time from sex cult to barely sleeping with anybody after leaving the cult. And considering how fuck happy everyone is in Savarra, of course he's horny! But as I said though Quin just needs more content in general. Armor set quest was nice and I rlly hope bubbles doesn't get discouraged and keep on writing.
That's literally not true though.
Cait on Ryn: ""Poor Etheryn," Cait sighs, leaning back in her seat. "I can't imagine my sister doing something so terrible to me... or living like that, for that matter. Mallach preserve, if I went a week without being able to cum I'd probably claw my own tits off trying; I can't imagine going years." Well, it seems like her sister at least allowed Ryn to cum from her ass. "How magnanimous of her! If we ever come to the court of this Queen Alissa, you better stop me or I'm gonna put her over my knee." You're sure there'll be a line. "But what about Ryn herself?" Cait thinks a moment, smiling. "I think she's a sweet thing. A little too timid for my tastes, but I'd be happy to help try and bring her out of her shell. When I look at her, though, I feel like I want to give her a hug more than I want to give her a ride, you know? She's like a scared puppy and I just want to hold her close and tell her it'll be alright.""

Quin on Ryn: "Your purple elf companion and Quintillus are getting along, you take it? "Well enough." Quin sets one hand on his other arm's elbow, resting his cheek against his fist and peering off over at Etheryn. "Well enough, considering I wouldn't mind making that boreal princess into a prim, proper Taelian wife." Crossing your arms, you hastily coax the bunny into flashing you his playful smirk; the taeleer man lets his hand drop, opening it just enough for a pink fire to spark up in his grasp. "Don't worry, I'm joking; as cute as she is, Etheryn isn't really my type. It's about the challenge when you find a good flame. The classic give-and-take romance is the only kind I want. Though, I suppose we get along well enough; her bird is rather magnificent and her ability with a bow is impressive. From a martial standpoint, she impresses me enough to make that cute ass of hers good company.""

Cait talks about Ryn's story and how maligned she is, and how she wants to comfort her - Quin talks about how she's hot and he wants to make her a 'prim, proper wife' and how cute her ass is.

Cait on Atugia: ""So, Atugia the Dullahan!" Cait says the moment you glance Tui's way. "Mom used to tell stories of a dullahan knight that terrorized some cozy little village, throwing her head at people to blast them with Wraith-power, 'till a great scholar stood up and tricked the beast into falling into a canyon off a narrow bridge. I thought that was all just hogwash, but maybe..." She shakes her head and laughs. "I don't know. I'm sure if there were really other dullahans, I'd have seen actual scholarship about them. Besides, Atugia doesn't seem like the menacing type... well, your first encounter aside. She is kind of intimidating, but more in an angry-drunk-lupine kinda way more than a monstery kind of way. She doesn't let what happened to her neck and head bother her, so that's admirable. And she's apparently really old, too! I'd love to pick her brain about how life was like before the Godswar... before we lost so much of our civilization that some parts of the world don't even remember what writing is. Can you imagine what she knows that even the most venerated scholars in Belhar can only guess at?" Across the tavern, you hear Atugia belch into her beer. Arona guffaws and slaps her on the back, making the tiny warrior pitch forward. "... On the other hand, it'd probably be fun just to swap stories with her. She strikes me as a good friend. Loyal to a fault... as long as her head's on her shoulders, anyway. Who knows what that body'll do all on its own." You cross your arms and survey the catgirl as she speaks, long enough to make Cait pause. "W-what? I have something on my face?" "No, but that's the least sexualization I think you've ever applied to someone." She laughs. "Oh, I don't need to explain all the crazy fun things you can do with a girl whose mouth and pussy can be as far apart or as close as you want. She's not really curvy enough to be my type, but Mallach knows I can dream up a thousand different fun ways to use that magic body of hers..." Best change topic before you lose Cait to daydreaming."

Quinn on Atugia: ""The short girl with the feisty temper? The one who worked for that lady on the hill?" Yes, her. Although you can't fathom why Quin calls her short given they're not too different in heights, you are interested in keeping an ear on how things are going. "I," Quin starts... but pauses. The bunny raises a finger, looking around to ensure no one else will possibly hear you two. His ears raise up alertly, adding in his fantastic hearing to try and find any lurkers. Only when satisfied does he turn his attention back to you, finally tapping his finger on across his book. "I want to fuck her face. It's almost scary to suggest it, but I'm starting to wonder if that woman laid some enchantment on the girl to make mental suggestions about it. As strange as it is, the only thing I picture when I look at that tough, weirdly adorable redhead? Her balls deep and cutely gagging on my dick. But keep that between us; I get along well enough with her and I'd rather not make her think I'm just trying to get in her bed." Is he? "... Maybe. Anything else?""

His immediate and only strong reaction to Atugia is wanting to have sex with her... whereas Cait only mentions her sexual desires for Atugia when prompted by the champ.

Sure, if we're talking Brienne, they're both pretty horny for her - though Quin's horny being specifically about him fucking her and Cait's about her being hot in general is a notable difference too imo - but the way Cait and Quin talk about your other female companions is absolutely different.

Frankly, I'm not a huge fan of Arona either, partially because she's so one-dimensional about just wanting to (violently) fuck and fight everyone, but that's neither here nor there to the subject of whether or not Quin is notably more objectifying and demeaning to women than the other companions, which is a resounding yes - shit, we have other players of the game in here talking about how that's the appeal of him, Philomena said, as a direct quote, "I am a reader who finds that kind of objectification and lechery pretty sexy"

So Idrk what you're getting at here - he does act notably differently to cait. Even Arona says things about how fucked up what's been done to Ryn is and how she seems younger than her before talking about sex. Same with Atugia, with both of the previous examples, sure, she mentions wanting to fuck them, but she actually has at least something to say about who they are as people and their stories, which Quin never really has.
 

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I don't think Brint has ever proposed to me
But moving on I have a main and 2 flavour PCs and weddings can be a one time scene two years ago.
So a little entry on your character sheet listing spouses, would be handy to avoid social faux pas
Christmas scene, not proper proposing but still very sweet, it is also only hinted as a proposal if you choose to kiss him it feels like just a gift if you only thank him
 
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That's literally not true though.
Cait on Ryn: ""Poor Etheryn," Cait sighs, leaning back in her seat. "I can't imagine my sister doing something so terrible to me... or living like that, for that matter. Mallach preserve, if I went a week without being able to cum I'd probably claw my own tits off trying; I can't imagine going years." Well, it seems like her sister at least allowed Ryn to cum from her ass. "How magnanimous of her! If we ever come to the court of this Queen Alissa, you better stop me or I'm gonna put her over my knee." You're sure there'll be a line. "But what about Ryn herself?" Cait thinks a moment, smiling. "I think she's a sweet thing. A little too timid for my tastes, but I'd be happy to help try and bring her out of her shell. When I look at her, though, I feel like I want to give her a hug more than I want to give her a ride, you know? She's like a scared puppy and I just want to hold her close and tell her it'll be alright.""

Quin on Ryn: "Your purple elf companion and Quintillus are getting along, you take it? "Well enough." Quin sets one hand on his other arm's elbow, resting his cheek against his fist and peering off over at Etheryn. "Well enough, considering I wouldn't mind making that boreal princess into a prim, proper Taelian wife." Crossing your arms, you hastily coax the bunny into flashing you his playful smirk; the taeleer man lets his hand drop, opening it just enough for a pink fire to spark up in his grasp. "Don't worry, I'm joking; as cute as she is, Etheryn isn't really my type. It's about the challenge when you find a good flame. The classic give-and-take romance is the only kind I want. Though, I suppose we get along well enough; her bird is rather magnificent and her ability with a bow is impressive. From a martial standpoint, she impresses me enough to make that cute ass of hers good company.""

Cait talks about Ryn's story and how maligned she is, and how she wants to comfort her - Quin talks about how she's hot and he wants to make her a 'prim, proper wife' and how cute her ass is.

Cait on Atugia: ""So, Atugia the Dullahan!" Cait says the moment you glance Tui's way. "Mom used to tell stories of a dullahan knight that terrorized some cozy little village, throwing her head at people to blast them with Wraith-power, 'till a great scholar stood up and tricked the beast into falling into a canyon off a narrow bridge. I thought that was all just hogwash, but maybe..." She shakes her head and laughs. "I don't know. I'm sure if there were really other dullahans, I'd have seen actual scholarship about them. Besides, Atugia doesn't seem like the menacing type... well, your first encounter aside. She is kind of intimidating, but more in an angry-drunk-lupine kinda way more than a monstery kind of way. She doesn't let what happened to her neck and head bother her, so that's admirable. And she's apparently really old, too! I'd love to pick her brain about how life was like before the Godswar... before we lost so much of our civilization that some parts of the world don't even remember what writing is. Can you imagine what she knows that even the most venerated scholars in Belhar can only guess at?" Across the tavern, you hear Atugia belch into her beer. Arona guffaws and slaps her on the back, making the tiny warrior pitch forward. "... On the other hand, it'd probably be fun just to swap stories with her. She strikes me as a good friend. Loyal to a fault... as long as her head's on her shoulders, anyway. Who knows what that body'll do all on its own." You cross your arms and survey the catgirl as she speaks, long enough to make Cait pause. "W-what? I have something on my face?" "No, but that's the least sexualization I think you've ever applied to someone." She laughs. "Oh, I don't need to explain all the crazy fun things you can do with a girl whose mouth and pussy can be as far apart or as close as you want. She's not really curvy enough to be my type, but Mallach knows I can dream up a thousand different fun ways to use that magic body of hers..." Best change topic before you lose Cait to daydreaming."

Quinn on Atugia: ""The short girl with the feisty temper? The one who worked for that lady on the hill?" Yes, her. Although you can't fathom why Quin calls her short given they're not too different in heights, you are interested in keeping an ear on how things are going. "I," Quin starts... but pauses. The bunny raises a finger, looking around to ensure no one else will possibly hear you two. His ears raise up alertly, adding in his fantastic hearing to try and find any lurkers. Only when satisfied does he turn his attention back to you, finally tapping his finger on across his book. "I want to fuck her face. It's almost scary to suggest it, but I'm starting to wonder if that woman laid some enchantment on the girl to make mental suggestions about it. As strange as it is, the only thing I picture when I look at that tough, weirdly adorable redhead? Her balls deep and cutely gagging on my dick. But keep that between us; I get along well enough with her and I'd rather not make her think I'm just trying to get in her bed." Is he? "... Maybe. Anything else?""

His immediate and only strong reaction to Atugia is wanting to have sex with her... whereas Cait only mentions her sexual desires for Atugia when prompted by the champ.

Sure, if we're talking Brienne, they're both pretty horny for her - though Quin's horny being specifically about him fucking her and Cait's about her being hot in general is a notable difference too imo - but the way Cait and Quin talk about your other female companions is absolutely different.

Frankly, I'm not a huge fan of Arona either, partially because she's so one-dimensional about just wanting to (violently) fuck and fight everyone, but that's neither here nor there to the subject of whether or not Quin is notably more objectifying and demeaning to women than the other companions, which is a resounding yes - shit, we have other players of the game in here talking about how that's the appeal of him, Philomena said, as a direct quote, "I am a reader who finds that kind of objectification and lechery pretty sexy"

So Idrk what you're getting at here - he does act notably differently to cait. Even Arona says things about how fucked up what's been done to Ryn is and how she seems younger than her before talking about sex. Same with Atugia, with both of the previous examples, sure, she mentions wanting to fuck them, but she actually has at least something to say about who they are as people and their stories, which Quin never really has.
That's true. I didn't exactly remember what they said but I just remembered there was some sexual stuff that Cait and Arona mentioned about others. It's just that I've seen a lot of ppl disliking Quin just because he's a guy and that ppl seem to think he's trying to steal/fuck all other girls and assume he's sleeping with them (which he doesn't).

While I also didn't really like how he talks about the girls like that I was trying to kind of put him in a better light considering him previously being in a sex cult. He's an interesting character but I guess he falls for the same one-dimensional character thing that Arona falls into being just a horny fuckboy.

My point is that I do agree that he does give off that lechery vibe but just like how Arona got some expansion and character development, it would help Quin's case if he had more content. I just think that his flaw of being horny/sex-focused was what got him into this sex cult in the 1st place and having him move on from that and have more content focusing on his past and less so on his horny side would be a great character development for him. Like his recent armor quest. I guess it did sound like I'm defending his objectification; my bad for that.
 

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That's true. I didn't exactly remember what they said but I just remembered there was some sexual stuff that Cait and Arona mentioned about others. It's just that I've seen a lot of ppl disliking Quin just because he's a guy and that ppl seem to think he's trying to steal/fuck all other girls and assume he's sleeping with them (which he doesn't).

While I also didn't really like how he talks about the girls like that I was trying to kind of put him in a better light considering him previously being in a sex cult. He's an interesting character but I guess he falls for the same one-dimensional character thing that Arona falls into being just a horny fuckboy.

My point is that I do agree that he does give off that lechery vibe but just like how Arona got some expansion and character development, it would help Quin's case if he had more content. I just think that his flaw of being horny/sex-focused was what got him into this sex cult in the 1st place and having him move on from that and have more content focusing on his past and less so on his horny side would be a great character development for him. Like his recent armor quest. I guess it did sound like I'm defending his objectification; my bad for that.
No it's all good! I'm not mad, I just read that and went "I don't think that's right, based on what I remember", so I pulled open the game and tried to see. I was not suggesting you were like, trying to find a way to minimize how he is, I just saw something that I didn't think aligned with my memories, so I tried to correct.