What content would you like added?

Oh Philomena

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Oh, if we ever get to the end credits scene, I want a rough percentage of the savarra population who is a descendant of the champion after what... 10 generations or so? Just for fun

(and no, I don't have an addiction. I can stop breeding at any time. I swear!)
me realizing brint and i saved the world but also absolutely nuked the genetic diversity of an entire continent:

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Animalistic

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Speaking of PC pregnancy, I wish -- besides it being better handled -- that champion gets more chance to carry and birth more than one baby at the time. Little weird to ask, I know, but one of the things I like about Brints pregnancy is that it makes my champion feel like fertility goddes with how many little rascals she can carry. And to be just saddled with one/maybe two kids at the time when it comes to other NPCs feels strange. Especially when I max my fertility.
 

wery12345

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Speaking of PC pregnancy, I wish -- besides it being better handled -- that champion gets more chance to carry and birth more than one baby at the time. Little weird to ask, I know, but one of the things I like about Brints pregnancy is that it makes my champion feel like fertility goddes with how many little rascals she can carry. And to be just saddled with one/maybe two kids at the time when it comes to other NPCs feels strange. Especially when I max my fertility.
Because they are going by the races norms? It's probably the primary reason? Like yeah they could add the possibility of twins, but why should they?
 

Orange Juice Jones

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I think the scene would go something like this

"Beloved. Beloved? Nakano! Ah, ahem! I'm glad I've finally gotten your attention, you've been enraptured by that poem you have been devoting yourself to for quite some time. What was that? You want me to listen to you recite it? Well, I've come to talk about matters of some import to me, but if that's what my beloved wishes than, I'll accede to your will. Oh. Oh! What an interesting poem you've written, truly. That part where you say, "My katana may chop chop chop but my big banana will never flop flop flop." That part really uh, moved me. Also, right when you said, "Electrum more like Electcum, watch how hard I can make my dick cum." Very profound. Anyway, now that's finished, you are finished right? Excellent. I wanted to talk to you today about my uh mother, mother. You know, her eminence. Now, I don't know this for sure but I think she's been fornicating...with uh...all my friends. I think she started with Miko and Mai and now has been making bedroom eyes at everyone. Now I'm not surprised about Miko and Mai in the slightest, I mean, Of course she would go after them. You should know, you are related. They are total sluts. That wasn't enough apparently. I asked Rindo if my mother had fornicated with her and she ran away from me like she had been set on fi...NEVERMIND! I asked Kohaku about the same thing and all she did was blush and start babbling out a steady stream of nojyas, which I guess is a confession of sorts? So, she's probably got to them as well.
On top of that, she's been laying with my mother an awful lot these past few weeks. Now, I know how important children are, but I think I have about sixty siblings now and it has gotten increasingly hard to remember their names. Not only that I hear she's been giving relief to the kitsunes outside to the point where they've politely asked her to desist. To get to the point, I think my mother is doing all this to get back to me because I wouldn't let her touch my fluffy tales, which I told her belonged to you beloved. She didn't take it well and stormed off in a hut muttering about some plan and revenge. I tried to ask her about it, but all she did was wink at me and said it couldn't be helped. She said it five times in one conversation so I know she's doing this on purpose. Now I'm worried that she might turn her eyes on other residents including, you my beloved. Wait, why is your face red? Are you sick? Should I check your temperature?"

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You the hero are hiding behind a screen door and listening in to the conversation with your companions awkwardly standing behind and giving you odd looks. You softly whisper "I hear everything."
Cait tugs on the sleeve of your outfit and whispers in your ear. "Uh (Hero's Name), you do remember we are trying to rescue Calla right? Also, like, saving the world?
You turn around and blankly stare at Cait for about a minute before you feel a burst of recognition. "Oh right, Calla she's your...." "Sister!" Cait loudly whispers, she's my sister, don't you remember?" "Right, yeah, your sister. I knew that, I was just....testing you. Also, yeah I'll save the world and then fuck the world, and then save it all again, okay?" You then turn back around to keep listening in to the conversation going on in front of you. Cait gives a big sigh and continues awkwardly staring at her toes.
 

luciel1331

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Because they are going by the races norms? It's probably the primary reason? Like yeah they could add the possibility of twins, but why should they?
Because just like I see some ppl breeding the fuck out of kiyoko, brienne, etc into 100+ children, some ppl like to go full goblin broodmare mode. While I understand each race is different, it seems weird that for example, hretha and infrinth can birth twin orc babies, yet Arona impregnating PC can only end with 1 orc baby (even if PC has like the stupid high fertility). So I think it's weird that PC pregnancy and npc pregnancy gives different amount even though they are giving birth to the same race like that.
 

Animalistic

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Because they are going by the races norms? It's probably the primary reason? Like yeah they could add the possibility of twins, but why should they?
As Luciel said, there are many cases where dick h PC can go beyond the established limit. Brienne, Miko, Hretha, Infrith and probably more that I can not think off. And that is good! Breaking the odds and knocking up girl beyond what is usually possible is one of the ways makes the player feel like they are the protagonist, the supperios sire compared to everyone else. You are the one that earned, nay, deserves to knock up these girls for who could else accomplish what you did today?

That is one of the aspects that makes the games as popular as it is.

But when you play female/cboy champion, you do not really get that feeling. Instead of feeling like fertility Goddess you set out yourself to be, you are really no different than any other female NPC. Which kind of sucks. It would be sweet if pregnancies like that of Brint, who I think maxes out on four, could lead to him being amazed at the fact that we birthed six little jewels. Like you can accomplish with Brienne if I remember right. Or if Aronas could lead to twins and having her be amazed to the extent that she comment how you must be trully special to accomplish something like that. It would make you feel like peak of fertility, supperior to any other girl, and as someone that anyone would want as their life partner.

As it is now, the limit to PCs birthing capacity is also one of the reasons why PC pregnancy to me feels less special/grandious than most of NPC related ones.
 

luciel1331

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As Luciel said, there are many cases where dick h PC can go beyond the established limit. Brienne, Miko, Hretha, Infrith and probably more that I can not think off. And that is good! Breaking the odds and knocking up girl beyond what is usually possible is one of the ways makes the player feel like they are the protagonist, the supperios sire compared to everyone else. You are the one that earned, nay, deserves to knock up these girls for who could else accomplish what you did today?

That is one of the aspects that makes the games as popular as it is.

But when you play female/cboy champion, you do not really get that feeling. Instead of feeling like fertility Goddess you set out yourself to be, you are really no different than any other female NPC. Which kind of sucks. It would be sweet if pregnancies like that of Brint, who I think maxes out on four, could lead to him being amazed at the fact that we birthed six little jewels. Like you can accomplish with Brienne if I remember right. Or if Aronas could lead to twins and having her be amazed to the extent that she comment how you must be trully special to accomplish something like that. It would make you feel like peak of fertility, supperior to any other girl, and as someone that anyone would want as their life partner.

As it is now, the limit to PCs birthing capacity is also one of the reasons why PC pregnancy to me feels less special/grandious than most of NPC related ones.
Honestly, that does sound nice but I honestly don't care too much about number gremlining. I care more about the intimacy and the interaction between pc and the sire. I just want the same effort they put into npc pregnancy as they do for pc pregnancy since the former has a vast amount of effort and time put into it compared to the latter. Yeah, I get npc pregs are more popular but I would take caring and intimate pc preg over pumps and dumps any day. Rather have quality rather than quantity.
 

Animalistic

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Oh, I agree. I was mostly talking about making the existing good pregnancy (basically Brint's, Lyrics and Aronas at this point) more fulfilling (heh) by taking into account if players fertility stats incase they want to become a symbol of fertility.

But yeah, bigger numbers are fun but without care/love involved that just makes my PC feel more like a single mother than she already does. Having better pregnancy content should take precident.

Also, maybe having a partner kids all to ourselves but one thing at the time...
 

CitrusWolf

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a tome to learn Cleansing Bell or to bribe nocturna to teach you, it is a very good heal
 

Tide Hunter

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ability to form a pack with lupine lovers, like lassala, zo and gwyn and garret
What do you mean by a pack? There's nothing in the game's lore or story that indicates any lupines have a "pack" structure. They have families, they have tribes, and they have towns, but they don't form packs.
a tome to learn Cleansing Bell or to bribe nocturna to teach you, it is a very good heal
Ivris can teach it for some reason. At around level 5 I think.
Just checked with a level 6 character, Ivris has no such option. However, Brother Sanders does. Which makes sense, because he's the White Mage teacher, and Cleansing Bell is a What Mage spell.

That said, why would you want to use it? With high spellpower at level 6, I can get Heal to heal 44% of health, and Great Heal heals 65% cures Burning, Bleeding, and Poisoned. Cleansing Bell removes all debuffs, but its heal amount seems to be a static 36% regardless of stats, which is less than what Great Heal heals at the minimum possible spellpower you can have at level 6 (50%), and only 3% more than what the normal Heal will heal at that level. And, CB has a 2 turn cooldown, whereas Heal and Great Heal are at-wills.

Cleansing debuffs can definitely be useful. As far as I know, the only other debuff cleanse comes from the Remedy item, and the Remedy power (which you can't have, but it's also an at-will for the enemy that does have it), but if you're using it for healing rather than the cleanse, you'd be better served by the healing powers.
 

Kyubi Xiaolong

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What do you mean by a pack? There's nothing in the game's lore or story that indicates any lupines have a "pack" structure. They have families, they have tribes, and they have towns, but they don't form packs.
if you start as a lupine and when you do shades of the past packs are mentioned several times as part of the lore...... but i meant as a big family
 

CitrusWolf

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What do you mean by a pack? There's nothing in the game's lore or story that indicates any lupines have a "pack" structure. They have families, they have tribes, and they have towns, but they don't form packs.


Just checked with a level 6 character, Ivris has no such option. However, Brother Sanders does. Which makes sense, because he's the White Mage teacher, and Cleansing Bell is a What Mage spell.

That said, why would you want to use it? With high spellpower at level 6, I can get Heal to heal 44% of health, and Great Heal heals 65% cures Burning, Bleeding, and Poisoned. Cleansing Bell removes all debuffs, but its heal amount seems to be a static 36% regardless of stats, which is less than what Great Heal heals at the minimum possible spellpower you can have at level 6 (50%), and only 3% more than what the normal Heal will heal at that level. And, CB has a 2 turn cooldown, whereas Heal and Great Heal are at-wills.

Cleansing debuffs can definitely be useful. As far as I know, the only other debuff cleanse comes from the Remedy item, and the Remedy power (which you can't have, but it's also an at-will for the enemy that does have it), but if you're using it for healing rather than the cleanse, you'd be better served by the healing powers.
I am using it for the cleanse yes, it can remove disarmed and silenced which are very much fast party killers in a lot of the fights that have such
 

Resawar

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However, Brother Sanders does
Balak must have changed that during the rebalancing or something as before Ivris did have it from some odd reason. My 5.03 version has it set that way and that was right after the rebalance and so does my 5.07 version, so if someone has a 4.44 version they can double check it as I remember getting on my kitsune champ.
 

CitrusWolf

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What do you mean by a pack? There's nothing in the game's lore or story that indicates any lupines have a "pack" structure. They have families, they have tribes, and they have towns, but they don't form packs.


Just checked with a level 6 character, Ivris has no such option. However, Brother Sanders does. Which makes sense, because he's the White Mage teacher, and Cleansing Bell is a What Mage spell.

That said, why would you want to use it? With high spellpower at level 6, I can get Heal to heal 44% of health, and Great Heal heals 65% cures Burning, Bleeding, and Poisoned. Cleansing Bell removes all debuffs, but its heal amount seems to be a static 36% regardless of stats, which is less than what Great Heal heals at the minimum possible spellpower you can have at level 6 (50%), and only 3% more than what the normal Heal will heal at that level. And, CB has a 2 turn cooldown, whereas Heal and Great Heal are at-wills.

Cleansing debuffs can definitely be useful. As far as I know, the only other debuff cleanse comes from the Remedy item, and the Remedy power (which you can't have, but it's also an at-will for the enemy that does have it), but if you're using it for healing rather than the cleanse, you'd be better served by the healing powers.
after finding it, max at my level 5 is 41% and this is the heal when no status effects are on 1659514488293.png
to me it seems like a very good heal with a low cool down compared to the others, so I can have my at will do something else which is neat
 

CitrusWolf

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I remember... Berry's ultimate was really good for a summoner build, maybe have him teach him for electrum just like he teaches how to summon a golem for free after the quest?
 

TaeleerTails

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It’d probably be a pain in the ass to implement, but I got a real kick out of my champion’s background getting mentions and the implications it had on things. Maybe I’m just easily impressed but I loved whenever the hunter background would help out in the Old Forest, it felt like it’s own little mechanic. I haven’t seen much of it since that area though, but it’d probably be a whole lot of work to sprinkle it in more, since that’s on top of stuff like champ race and class, with a whole bunch of variations that can already be made. Still cool though.
 

Tide Hunter

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It’d probably be a pain in the ass to implement, but I got a real kick out of my champion’s background getting mentions and the implications it had on things. Maybe I’m just easily impressed but I loved whenever the hunter background would help out in the Old Forest, it felt like it’s own little mechanic. I haven’t seen much of it since that area though, but it’d probably be a whole lot of work to sprinkle it in more, since that’s on top of stuff like champ race and class, with a whole bunch of variations that can already be made. Still cool though.
That does happen a fair bit, but it's generally just a change in text, rather than a mechanical difference. Like, when talking about a magical matter, dialogue may be one thing if you either are a mage or had a magical background. It's very rarely as dramatic as the Hunter getting to skip several encounters, but if you read closely, you can sometimes notice it.