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Savin

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So seeing the weapons used in Tychris, the Winter City, etc. would be really interesting.

Well, you can see the weapons used in Winter City: the elves really like greatspears, bows, and curved blades of one and two-handed natures.

You'll get a chance to see Tychrisian weapons soon enough (staves, scimitars, one-handed spears). Though unlike Winter City, these will mostly be kept on nice peoples' belts :p
 

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)

On that subject, I wish Arona's picture in-game was the same as her pic in the design document. She looks so much better that way.
 

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Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.
You realize the game's art assets are accessible, right? Take the picture you want of Taur!Kas, rename it to the filename used by her normal picture, repeat across the various folders as appropriate and there you go. You could make it work with Arona's design doc art too, with a bit more effort.
 

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Can any of you truly say that there's a better way to communicate "hey you can't fix this" short of putting bold fucking text saying "HEY YOU CAN'T FIX HIM, FOR REAL LOL" at the bottom of the scene? There's literally nothing more I could have done to tell you that he's unfixable short of just removing the scene entirely and letting the player figure it out, but I think everyone knows where that would go. The garden is meant to be a bit of a sanctuary for him, so he is "healing" in the sense that he's more or less at peace.

On a tangentially related subject, the game communicates "this is a serious decision which is irreversible once made" more effectively for you picking a color for Sugo's caparison, which doesn't even show up on his picture, than it does for many of the game's most portentious decisions (eg sabotaging Arona's plan by attacking Argoth directly, thereby permanently removing the entire warcamp and several characters along with it). Bold text PLUS a "are you sure?" prompt is good technology to have in the game, and maybe there are artistic reasons for not allowing it in all cases, but it seems weird to have it in places where it doesn't really matter at all, and not have in in places where it borders on ruining your game because you walked blindly into a wrong decision.
 

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You realize the game's art assets are accessible, right? Take the picture you want of Taur!Kas, rename it to the filename used by her normal picture, repeat across the various folders as appropriate and there you go. You could make it work with Arona's design doc art too, with a bit more effort.

1. I play the game through my browser so I don't think I have any access to files; if I do, I don't know how. Even if Windows normally stores the game info in some specific place, I'm using a Linux computer and I don't actually understand how Linux operates, so I wouldn't know where to look.

2. I'd be very scared of accidentally breaking the game if I messed around in the files because I don't know what I'm doing. I've irreparably screwed up several previous computer games by trying to edit core files and shit in ways that I didn't know about - my favorite computer game of all time, Diablo 2, has a semi-official editing program called Atma which I use to move items from character to character, but the program is bugged, and several times I've accidentally deleted an entire character by trying to move one item onto them which has some kind of rogue code in it which I don't have control over.
 

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)
Hey those bolded bits? Stop that. I don't see why you're doing that.
 

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)
Why are you using gender neutral terms to refer to Kasyrra, a character who very clearly and explicitly presents as female (note that she has extremely strong shapeshifting magic, and when Demons first transform they chose what form they wish to take based on their deepest wishes and desires, so her presenting as female aside from the giant horse cock would certainly be deliberate on her part) and who is always referred to using female pronouns?
 

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Since we are on Behemoth, you know what is a false advertising? His initial anal sex scene. Where did it go? That is the only reason I rescued that walking didlo.

Why are you using gender neutral terms to refer to Kasyrra, a character who very clearly and explicitly presents as female (note that she has extremely strong shapeshifting magic, and when Demons first transform they chose what form they wish to take based on their deepest wishes and desires, so her presenting as female aside from the giant horse cock would certainly be deliberate on her part) and who is always referred to using female pronouns?
When did zir become gender neutral term?
 
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Shmebulock

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Lets not begin that conversation here. You can spot the derailment a mile away and its not the place to enlighten people with views.

Regarding weaponry, I like the fact that the only two handed sword seems to be a meteoric iron one. That is, iron with more % of carbon, the steel before damascus steel. Details like that make a world, if not "realistic", at least coherent with its own rules. More details and nuances in that regard would add texture to the world
 

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Lets not begin that conversation here. You can spot the derailment a mile away and its not the place to enlighten people with views.

Regarding weaponry, I like the fact that the only two handed sword seems to be a meteoric iron one. That is, iron with more % of carbon, the steel before damascus steel. Details like that make a world, if not "realistic", at least coherent with its own rules. More details and nuances in that regard would add texture to the world

Wait which sword? The swift sword? I'm pretty sure the other two handers are stated to be bronze or the metal isn't described or stated.
 

Shmebulock

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Wait which sword? The swift sword? I'm pretty sure the other two handers are stated to be bronze or the metal isn't described or stated.

Claymore (was it claymore?) of moth girl

And if the other blades are not axes or what have you but a solid piece of bronze... then you're looking at a boomerang after some strikes. If those are not magic anyway
 
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Wint3rRyd3r

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Claymore (was it claymore?) of moth girl

I'm pretty sure that one is silver steel from the description. And it's not native to Savarra. At least, not the one she has.

https://forum.fenoxo.com/threads/your-gripes-with-coc-ii.19814/page-36#post-352063

That link should take you to Savin's quote on it. Even if he didn't write the scene, I think it's his character. So it wouldn't be included without his approval probably. I would like that sword, or at least a more balanced version. Doubt fluffy moth Lusina would ever willingly part with it though.
 
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Shmebulock

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She says "fell from the sky one night like a shooting star" (hence me thinking: aight, that's meteoric iron), but now that I read it again, it fell already forged in a single piece with a thunderclap, in the hour of greatest need, yadda yadda yadda. It could be just aggrandizement, made by the ignorant common folk or the not so ignorant landholders trying to attach some divine right to rule through legend and symbolism.

But no, seeing what kind of world we are dealing with, it was most likely the sword of a schmuck from a world that discovered steel and it fell through a portal after a lubrication accident.
 

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More colors in the stylists shop like blue hair/fur scrub or pink eye lenses /pink hair/fur scrub
A way to color horns
A item to change scale color
A item to change skin color
Freckles I'd love to be able to have them maybe even a version of them for fur/scales
And not needing to be berry's sub to have his pups
 

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Since we are on Behemoth, you know what is a false advertising? His initial anal sex scene. Where did it go? That is the only reason I rescued that walking didlo.


When did zir become gender neutral term?

To your first question: Yes please, could we have that back please?

To your second question: Zir is one of the many many many pronouns that were made up for the 50 or so new genders. It's usually safe to assume it's gender neutral because figuring out which gender it's supposed to belong to is pointless. After all, if you had one of those hip new pronouns that could only be used by women you'd tie the entire thing back to biological sex which makes John Money cry more than someone burning his kiddy picture collection.

There's also the fact that Kasyrra is a demon so the concept of biological sex went out the window centuries ago.
 
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Squirrelwagon

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Zir is a perfectly good and useful pronoun that's especially helpful to many non-binary and trans and some intersex folk in the real world but it has absolutely no place being used to address Kasyrra who explicitly identifies as female and is constantly and consistently referred to using she/her throughout the text. Genitalia has absolutely no place in this conversation because pronoun usage isn't actually tied to one's genitals but to one's gender presentation. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk, and now back to rerailing this thread:

I'd love to see more tentacles in the game, preferably tied to some male-presenting characters or even androgynous ones. Heck, even a dream would be fine! Just. A big fan of tentacles.
 

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Alternative pronoun for use: they/their/them.
All thsi zir and etc I personally feel is people wanting to feel super-extra special about their newfound or different identified gender, and want to be referred to as such via a brand-new word.

Tentacles? Tentacles. Even if Alraune and plant porn exists, could definitely see sum'n with tentacle hair popping up mid- to late-game that can bind you with such.

I personally wanna see more hybrids around - Berwyn looks lonely and Solveig is an interesting specimen, but I'm not exactly an orc fan.
Let there be cat-dog people and bunny-horses.
 

Squirrelwagon

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As someone who does use they/them, I have to say that's an incredibly reductive and dismissive way of viewing the usage of alternative pronouns, but if you want to get into the specifics of why, we can take this to PMs.

Does remind me I do wish there were more pronoun options in the game but again, the coding involved....

Though I do agree, would be fun to see more mixed characters in the game. Especially if said character's parents come from very different cultures.
 

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And not needing to be berry's sub to have his pups
I hope, and I mean I really hope, that if B! does his planned sub route, he is going to give us option to dom his dick/be on equal footing. Like he is doing with that beauty of minotaur femboy- Nikol. It kind of gets boring when only way to dominate someone is with the strap on/dick. Like, I get it, penetratior is usually considered the dominant one in sex, but what about power bottoms/domgirls of the world?
But if you are thinking of both of you being on equal footing, that would also be nice. Again, like that mino femboy.
 
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Wint3rRyd3r

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You know what something extremely unlikely but cool would be? Alright hear me out. Post game content, we get the slides saying what may happen in the future with the closing line Marvel Ultimate Alliance that was "But know that these events can be altered." and we can continue exploring afterward. It's not like dealing with Kasyrra will magically fix everything she's messed with. And, going off of that, post game Kas content. Purified Kas becoming a companion to help fix the stuff she did and demon Kas tinkering with portals and stuff but with repeats of specific sex scenes available. It could even be roleplay, so no text during it needed. Would pure Kas be op af as a companion? Yes but at that point the player will probably be max level so any content you go back and do, the player will be extremely over leveled for. We're getting demon Kas dream palace, but what about those of us want to see who basic sexy bitch paladin Kas was. Though let's be real, that may never happen. Unless Savin is secretly snickering somewhere. Plus then Most people would probably grind and rush the story to unlock her so yeah. Cool but definitely unlikely.
 
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I could address the shit about how making jokes about how many genders there are is really not that funny and makes you look like a douche, but I’m too tired to do that and it would be pretty fucking pointless.

Anyway, do you think it would be funny or not if the Imp Leader sounded like this:
(The guy talking about selling the houses, not the guy breaking through the walls)
 

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I could address the shit about how making jokes about how many genders there are is really not that funny and makes you look like a douche, but I’m too tired to do that and it would be pretty fucking pointless.
Or you could just let it the fuck go because 1) it's been 4 days and 2) nobody was making jokes about genders and 3) even if they were, settle the fuck down. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they're a douche. Thinking that makes YOU a douchenozzle.
 

Stupid_Goo

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Imagine if Savin managed to slip in a cameo of Saendra under a different name.
 

Wint3rRyd3r

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Imagine if Savin managed to slip in a cameo of Saendra under a different name.

Redhead cat ex pirate cat? I'm torn. On one hand, I am intrigued. On the other, can we handle that much titty kitty?
 

Stupid_Goo

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Oyeah, can see it now...
Acrual redhead pirate captain of the Marches sails right in on top of the orc warcamp just slapping people around, spots PC, either gets trounced or silly shit happens and she gets knocked out cold by a stray swing.

Cue PC's lewd shenanigans...