Nightgames Mod (v2.5.1.2) updated 2/11/17

[BPIdev]

@Vintrion Full changelog is hosted on the mod code repository.

 

[Vintrion]

Oh dorp.

 

[nergantre]

@Draonir,

Noted, but I'm probably going to be focusing on adding the focuses to the rest of the characters first. If you'd like to write it, I'd be happy to put it in.

@Vintrion,

There actually is an anal pussy tf in the game if I recall correctly. There isn't any more, mostly because I can't think of anything that would fit.

I actually just merged in a pull request for other fetishes traits. You'll see them as starting weaknesses in the next build whenever that is.

Jewel has always been pretty weak in the late game unfortunately. It's hard making her good without destroying the balance of the game because having a power focus means that if you're too ahead, you just stun lock everyone, which isn't too fun.

Kiss... has been a hard one to balance lol. I'm not really sure what to do with it, because it gets buffed a lot by different traits. If I nerf it too much, it becomes kind of useless. I don't think having it do temptation damage will make it much worse than it's now...

@LogicalKink,

I've been looking to merge some of your stuff in, but it's pretty difficult to tell what was meant for the main game and what's personal. If you let me know, I'll see if I can cherry pick some of that in.

@dndw,
Btw are you interested in working on Reyka's specializations? Since you're the original author, I thought I'd check first. Otherwise I'll just work on Kat first. I didn't follow the Mara conversation too well, but it seems like someone wanted to do her traits?

Spoiler

For Reyka, I was thinking of a [tail / ???] focus at 10 and a [corruption / drain] focus at 20
Haven't really thought this one through to be honest.

For Kat, maybe something like a [speed / power] focus at 10 and a [pheromone / feral] focus at 20.
Speed focus would entail traits that makes her faster, dodge more, and augment some cunning/counter abilities.
Power focus would make her like a mini Jewel focusing on takedowns and lasting power.

Pheromone focus would be something like she is now, focusing heavily on stacking arousal over time, making it dangerous to finish a fight slowly.

Frenzy focus would turn her into a berserker character, where she willingly loses herself to lust and uses frenzy/wild thrust/lots of self damaging kills to do massive pleasure damage.

 

[Bronzechair]

I haven't played too much, but I saw a few minor issues in 2.4.3.2.

• • "Jewel uses Shredding Palm. Jewel strikes you in the chest with her palm, staggering your footing. Suddenly Jewel's T-shirt tears and falls off you in tatters."
  • "Cassie uses Jump. You jumps onto you, but you deposit her back onto the floor." Also, Jump is only usable while standing, so it should never say you put her back onto the floor.
  • I encountered a situation where Airi mimicked Rosea, but her portrait didn't change immediately. It took two or three turns for it to change/it didn't change until she used her flower counter. Speaking of the flower counter, the note about her flower being spread invitingly makes all text below it bold, unsure if error or warning.
  • The bondage trap doesn't actually tie you up when the match starts.
  • The level 20 focus choice for Jewel should probably mention it's her talking somewhere, as it's currently just her quote. It's mildly confusing if you lose to her in a double-team and don't know who the speaker is. I can't remember if it is or not, but the level 10 choice might be the same.
  • No text appears for the scene where you sneak up on someone and slip aphrodisiac into the pool while they soak. I'm not certain, but I believe I got the trophy for it regardless.
  • Entering the body shop without enough money for any operations will quietly boot you back to the menu. A message saying why you were denied would be good form.
  • Where does Dark Kiss come from again? I don't have any points in Dark or Fetish, but I could use it abruptly one night. The text said it was due to Reyka's corruption, and I did unlock her the prior day but I hadn't yet encountered her, so she couldn't have corrupted me.
  • Still can't open ninja stashes.

 

[nergantre]

@Bronzechair
I'll take a look at the other stuff.

Afaik ninja stashes cannot be opened, they're for changing your resupplying in a different part of the map.

Edit:
Yup addictions wasn't being cloned, so if the girls were simulating you getting addicted, you'd be addicted.

Woops.

 

[Atlas1965]

Can someone give me a refresher on how to get rid of addictions?

 

[Bronzechair]

@nergantre
Right, there's never a button to resupply in the area your ninja stash was supposedly delivered to.

@Atlas1965
Select Help with Addiction from the info dealer to unlock access to Addiction Removal on the day screen.

 

[Atlas1965]

@Bronzechair
Many thanks.

 

[ThatOneJester]

A quick question, but is it no longer possible to "pull out" anymore? I do not see the option anywhere when i am in a dominant position...

 

[Bronzechair]

@ThatOneJester
I don't have the technical know-how to interpret the code and confirm everything is working as intended, but there are a few reasons you might be stuck inside someone anyway. Check your statuses to see if you're arm locked or leg locked, both of which disable the option. There's also vaginal tongues and stuff, though I think most of the things that prevent pulling out should allow you to attempt it and then tell you why it failed.

 

[nergantre]

Also if you're infected with the breeder addiction you cannot pull out. Or if your opponent is knotted I guess?

 

[Vintrion]

@Draonir,

Noted, but I'm probably going to be focusing on adding the focuses to the rest of the characters first. If you'd like to write it, I'd be happy to put it in.

@Vintrion,

There actually is an anal pussy tf in the game if I recall correctly. There isn't any more, mostly because I can't think of anything that would fit.

I actually just merged in a pull request for other fetishes traits. You'll see them as starting weaknesses in the next build whenever that is.

Jewel has always been pretty weak in the late game unfortunately. It's hard making her good without destroying the balance of the game because having a power focus means that if you're too ahead, you just stun lock everyone, which isn't too fun.

Kiss... has been a hard one to balance lol. I'm not really sure what to do with it, because it gets buffed a lot by different traits. If I nerf it too much, it becomes kind of useless. I don't think having it do temptation damage will make it much worse than it's now...

All I suggested before was just toned or jiggly butts, it's just muscle or fat. That said; slight thrust bonus or improved anal ride/facesit pins. Nothing fancy... Anal pussy bothers me aesthetically, I could understand if it was a puffy donut pucker or some such, something commonly portrayed in anal art, but even the supposed anal pussy is extremely rare.

Neat. At that time I shall load in both the Cock/Ass fetish weaknesses together and worship my way to uncontested victorlossery.

Hah, yeah I can see where the stun-locking aspect would be an issue, but it's kinda that too, I want to be stun-locked. Angel/Cassie are both ridiculous with their constant enthrall-locks, but I don't hate it. It's way too late to do such a thing, but implementing a stance-dodge for wind-up skills, like having to disarm a lust-bomb attack with anal skills, or a back-step state that maneuver/some magics is tied to instead if you want to avoid a rush attack, you could add the combat variety that is fighting a mini-boss rather than an equal. It's too easy to merely think of these things, shit I haven't even finished my character.

Would be nice if the menu had sub-menus instead, or similar skills merged together to save space; so many worthless grapple skills that have become redundant... but mainly I was just hoping there was a hide-skill function implemented by this time after I had stopped playin.

An action is just to give diminished returns per trait. Especially since there is two other troublesome effects like charm/addiction mixed in at the minimum due to body-shop/training.

Unrelated; I find it funny you can be tempted by your own body-parts if you've been afflicted with a fetish and masturbate under enthrallment or otherwise.

Leaving the (broken) character here in case it's accidentally deleted; missing a fuckton of scenes but there is just barely enough to consider it a feasibility.

 

[dndw]

@Draonir,

@dndw,
Btw are you interested in working on Reyka's specializations? Since you're the original author, I thought I'd check first. Otherwise I'll just work on Kat first. I didn't follow the Mara conversation too well, but it seems like someone wanted to do her traits?

I haven't made any specific plan, but she's as good as any next stop after finishing Mara's focuses (foci?) and the editor. That last one is coming along nicely, by the way. I've only had to scrap everything and start over 3 or 4 times. Give it another week or so. And yes, I am already working on Mara's traits. Good bit of new stuff in there, so it may take a while.

@ThatOneJester
I don't have the technical know-how to interpret the code and confirm everything is working as intended, but there are a few reasons you might be stuck inside someone anyway. Check your statuses to see if you're arm locked or leg locked, both of which disable the option. There's also vaginal tongues and stuff, though I think most of the things that prevent pulling out should allow you to attempt it and then tell you why it failed.

The armlocked/leglocked statuses should still allow you to try to pull out, it's just more difficult. As nergantre noted, the skill is blocked by a knot in the opponent's dick and by the Breeder addiction. In addition, Charmed (and Lovestruck?) might well block it, I'm not entirely sure. Frenzied definitely will, though. Feral shouldn't, but it might make sense if it did.

Edit:
FYI for people (interested in) writing custom characters: I've just finished the list of traits in post #1438: https://forum.fenoxo.com/threads/nightgames-mod-v2-4-3-2-updated-11-22-16.65/page-48#post-110733

 

[Threshold]

All I suggested before was just toned or jiggly butts, it's just muscle or fat. That said; slight thrust bonus or improved anal ride/facesit pins. Nothing fancy... Anal pussy bothers me aesthetically, I could understand if it was a puffy donut pucker or some such, something commonly portrayed in anal art, but even the supposed anal pussy is extremely rare.

Neat. At that time I shall load in both the Cock/Ass fetish weaknesses together and worship my way to uncontested victorlossery.

Hah, yeah I can see where the stun-locking aspect would be an issue, but it's kinda that too, I want to be stun-locked. Angel/Cassie are both ridiculous with their constant enthrall-locks, but I don't hate it. It's way too late to do such a thing, but implementing a stance-dodge for wind-up skills, like having to disarm a lust-bomb attack with anal skills, or a back-step state that maneuver/some magics is tied to instead if you want to avoid a rush attack, you could add the combat variety that is fighting a mini-boss rather than an equal. It's too easy to merely think of these things, shit I haven't even finished my character.

Would be nice if the menu had sub-menus instead, or similar skills merged together to save space; so many worthless grapple skills that have become redundant... but mainly I was just hoping there was a hide-skill function implemented by this time after I had stopped playin.

An action is just to give diminished returns per trait. Especially since there is two other troublesome effects like charm/addiction mixed in at the minimum due to body-shop/training.

Unrelated; I find it funny you can be tempted by your own body-parts if you've been afflicted with a fetish and masturbate under enthrallment or otherwise.

Currently there is ass size modifiers in the code for asses. Just they are not utilized yet as far as I know so I think someone is working on it currently, or something.

And filtering combat menus or adding sub menus would probably be a good idea but most likely a grand undertaking.

Hi,

I would like to ask if you could add a stronger version of oral pin for the female chars. In this position she uses mouth and breasts (if they are big enough). I think this should be attainable with a high seduction skill or as a special skill for example with cassie and her breast focus.

If you lack the coding prowess to add it yourself I wouldn't mind adding such a pose, and probably tune up 'use breasts' because it's currently very. meh.

On a side note should there be a breasts training trait tree for breast based moves? or something similar.
Could also just use the newer Cassie traits for it I suppose.

 

[nergantre]

The problem with adding breasts training or something is that it... affects one skill. Also it doesn't make too much sense, but that might just be me.

There's not a lot you can do with them right now

Edit:
What do you think about these for Kat?

Spoiler

level 13
Speed focus:
Nimble Recovery - Recovers from KDs faster
Feral Agility - Extra evade, Extra counter
Cross counter - Chance to avoid opponent's counter and do an instant knock down
Limber - Can use certain skills from odd positions.

Power focus:
Unwavering - Getting knocked down does not stun (can recover afterwards)
Feral Strength - Extra power, Opponents have a harder time escaping
Untamed - Wild thrust/ride can flip sexual positions
Strongwilled - less willpower loss

Level 23
Pheromone focus:
Laced Jucies - arousal over time on drinking fluids
Augmented Pheromones - extra pheromones on top of base
Befuddling Fragrance - Lose cunning and advanced attributes while being affected by pheromones
Frenzy Scent - Chance to be apply frenzy when affected by pheromones
+ Speed focus: Diffusion - Bonus to stance pheromone mod when not in contact
+ Power focus: Piercing Odor - Calm is less effective in mitigating pheromone damage. If opponent does not have calm, bonus to pheromone strength.

Frenzy focus:
Rut - 50% less arousal damage during frenzy, chance to go into a frenzy when over 50% arousal.
Obscene Heat - Bonus to seduction while frenzied based on animism
+ Speed focus: Jackhammer - Chance to follow up fuck skills with a wild ride
+ Power focus: Piledriver - Chance to stun when fucking,
Mindless desire: When frenzied, opponents have a lower charisma multiplier
Unsatisfied: Against players: when at 0 willpower, you must finish her with a fuck action, or she wont lose. Against NPCs, all non-fuck actions have lowered pleasure damage.

 

[dndw]

Edit:
What do you think about these for Kat?

Spoiler

level 13
Speed focus:
Nimble Recovery - Recovers from KDs faster
Feral Agility - Extra evade, Extra counter
Cross counter - Chance to avoid opponent's counter and do an instant knock down
Limber - Can use certain skills from odd positions.

Power focus:
Unwavering - Getting knocked down does not stun (can recover afterwards)
Feral Strength - Extra power, Opponents have a harder time escaping
Untamed - Wild thrust/ride can flip sexual positions
Strongwilled - less willpower loss

Level 23
Pheromone focus:
Laced Jucies - arousal over time on drinking fluids
Augmented Pheromones - extra pheromones on top of base
Befuddling Fragrance - Lose cunning and advanced attributes while being affected by pheromones
Frenzy Scent - Chance to be apply frenzy when affected by pheromones
+ Speed focus: Diffusion - Bonus to stance pheromone mod when not in contact
+ Power focus: Piercing Odor - Calm is less effective in mitigating pheromone damage. If opponent does not have calm, bonus to pheromone strength.

Frenzy focus:
Rut - 50% less arousal damage during frenzy, chance to go into a frenzy when over 50% arousal.
Obscene Heat - Bonus to seduction while frenzied based on animism
+ Speed focus: Jackhammer - Chance to follow up fuck skills with a wild ride
+ Power focus: Piledriver - Chance to stun when fucking,
Mindless desire: When frenzied, opponents have a lower charisma multiplier
Unsatisfied: Against players: when at 0 willpower, you must finish her with a fuck action, or she wont lose. Against NPCs, all non-fuck actions have lowered pleasure damage.

Yes, please.

Currently there is ass size modifiers in the code for asses. Just they are not utilized yet as far as I know so I think someone is working on it currently, or something.

Ass size is used in calculating femininity (bigger = more feminine), but femininity isn't actually used anywhere. So in the end, no, it doesn't do anything yet.

 

[Draonir]

If you lack the coding prowess to add it yourself I wouldn't mind adding such a pose, and probably tune up 'use breasts' because it's currently very. meh.

On a side note should there be a breasts training trait tree for breast based moves? or something similar.
Could also just use the newer Cassie traits for it I suppose.

@Threshold I owe you if you would add it for me. My last time i did coding was 8 years ago and im really busy with study right now.

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

@nergantre

I'd like to try my implementation first - then task it towards creating a trait. I need to look at other traits, first, just to understand more. I'm just working on scenes, first.

 

[ThatOneJester]

So seeing so many people tell me different ways to make it to where you can't "pull out".
I decided to start a new game on the most recent version, then use fuck as soon as I could.

There is no option to "pull out".
So playing the game has been difficult since when you struggle, you just take a dominant fucking position.
And when Angel/Reyka use "invitation" at later levels, you pretty much lose unless a lot of the time.

I'm surprised nobody found this yet...
Anyways, I guess I found a bug?

 

[Bronzechair]

I hadn't noticed because my current character doesn't use any fucking skills, but that does seem to be the case. Pull out appears just fine in 2.3.3, but not in 2.4.3.2. Not even NPCs have access to it.

 

[nergantre]

Yup turns out you're right. Looks like there was a bug in Position.havingSex() that made it seems the top was never having sex.

:| this'll be fixed in the next patch I guess.

Edit:
So in the next patch, I'm focusing a lot on adding in some missing scenes. In particular, most of the competitors will actually have a win and loss scene as shemales/futas while fucking you vaginally. Most of them are minor variations on their normal scene though.

Additionally, I'm adding some more lines so that certain things don't feel as stale.

That said, I do have a few bounties (with no rewards though ) for scenes if anyone wants to help out:

Spoiler

Angel - Ranked up Goddess win/loss scene. Transformation scenes (Angelic wings, Divine pussy, Blessed cock, Divinity)
Airi - Vaginal penetration win/loss scene. Transformation scenes (Add slime core? haven't added anything yet, but I'm guessing it'll give you the ability to transform into a slime)
Cassie - Transformation scenes (Breast expansion/reduction, Lactation, Runic cock, Arcane pussy)
Eve - Vaginal Penetration win/loss scene. Eve intercourse loss scene.
Reyka - Vaginal Penetration win/loss scene. Transformation scenes (Succubus pussy, demonic tail)
Kat - Transformation scenes (she grows you a primal cock/feral pussy/cat tail/cat ears)
Mara - Transformation scenes (cybernetic pussy, bionic cock)
Jewel - Transformation scenes (fiery pussy, enlightened cock)

I'm up for any other variations too. (Ass expansion/reduction transformation from someone? Futa/herm scenes once they rank up? I dunno)

Either ways, I think the game is at a point where there's already a ton of features, and it's time to fill in some of the content we skipping over when implementing stuff. I'll work on them myself, but if you do feel like you can donate some time, please let me know

I'm hoping to make it so phantom mentions of cocks/the PC being male/the opponent being female will disappear over the next couple of patches, and it'll be easier to introduce male NPCs and other options in. I'm also thinking of UI changes while I work on these things, to hopefully make things a bit easier to navigate around in.

 

[MotoKuchoma]

What do these TF scenes need content wise? Havent seen them in-game.

 

[dndw]

What do these TF scenes need content wise? Havent seen them in-game.

He's probably referring to the scenes which should display when the player 'purchases' a transformation from a befriended NPC. The only one of these (last I checked) which isn't a placeholder is Reyka giving the player an incubus cock. If you haven't seen it and can't be bothered to hunt it down, you can find it here: https://github.com/nergantre/nightg...amesMod/nightgames/daytime/ReykaTime.java#L59. Bit of code to read through, but that's what you get for not being nice enough to Reyka.

Also, that's really weird about Pull Out. It worked just fine in my testing of Jewel's anal focus and I didn't touch Position#havingSex...

 

[Vintrion]

Words taken in context.

To counter the Forced TF causing grind-hell for certain chars like Angel, I'd like the material costs for TFs to be cheaper or permanently unlock. It's already a hell-ish grind as-is just to grab the damn angelic parts. I usually only get one 'holy water' per night as Angel starts in the labs and circles around to the library. Which I find mildly strange it isn't Mara who always starts at the workshop but w/e.

Will be interesting if you manage to remove all phantom cocks and stablize fem-pcs from their flux-gendered body, not to mention invisible balls that attach themselves to the futanari-inclined.

EDIT: Deleted, it served no purpose in the end.

 

[The Silver Bard]

I'm hoping to make it so phantom mentions of cocks/the PC being male/the opponent being female will disappear over the next couple of patches, and it'll be easier to introduce male NPCs and other options in. I'm also thinking of UI changes while I work on these things, to hopefully make things a bit easier to navigate around in.

If you can pull that off, I'd be grateful. I could start to properly implement a female PC in the base game. I did an estimate a while back on what that would require and found somewhere around 60 scenes that needed to be modified/rewritten. That was a long time ago, I think more scenes have been added since then.

 

[nergantre]

I don't really expect to get this all done immediately, but if I start removing them as I find them, it'll get better over time. The daytime scenes will be the difficult part. They're pretty long and generally are written specifically to guys. But if we don't start, it'll never get done

 

[kandarani]

Just found this game, but I'm having a hard time not losing every single battle. It seems like no matter what I try I take much more stamina/arousal damage than I can deal, and I miss most attacks. Any pointers/tips for starting setup/traits and general fighting strategy would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Vintrion]

There's a major loss in accuracy if you aren't up close, if you have 20 cunning you can start spamming maneuver; the only predominantly accurate grapple skill, and hit them with sleight of hand before they break free. This is a Seduction/Cunning/Fetish build; I would then start spamming the frottage/assjobs I've geared specifically towards until they develop a fetish which makes subsequent fights a little easier. As accuracy no longer becomes a concern though, I will only need maneuver if eyes of temptation fails and I can't get in close for a sleight of hand. There are more accurate stripping skills, but I never seem to manage to free up excess points to unlock them in the arcane branch. There are other ridiculous things you can do such as befriending them completely and removing their clothes from the game, or giving them only crotchless underwear, allowing you you freely molest their body without need for stripping. I leave on Angel's cloak at least, it doesn't impede the dick fencing.

For all the power of Frottage/Assjob and being able to use it in a neutral stance; besides requiring at least one party has a dick, it doesn't start showing it's power until a fetish is applied. Damage falls down from stale-ness if the fetish never applies to counter-act it. Also, every next time I fight someone with a cock fetish, a fully-buffed frottage can insta-rape them. It is quite gratifying to win from nothing more than a single cock-slap. But now I'm wishing there was a cock-slap skill...

Unless it's nerfed however, my insanely buffed kisses rarely ever fail and cause an orgasm every two hits.

Next version, I plan to start over and create a Power/Sadist build.

Reminder there is a list of all traits and descriptions of what they do here.

 

[dndw]

Just found this game, but I'm having a hard time not losing every single battle. It seems like no matter what I try I take much more stamina/arousal damage than I can deal, and I miss most attacks. Any pointers/tips for starting setup/traits and general fighting strategy would be greatly appreciated.

Try a Power-based build at first. Those tend to be pretty useful at first, although they do lose steam after, say, level 15 or so. Pick either Pimp Hand as your strength. It makes Slap do about 50% more damage and build triple the mojo. For the weakness you'd best pick Foot Fetishist. It's a pretty minor weakness overall, and doesn't do anything early on since no one uses foot-related skills then. In matches, you'll want to try to knock the opponent down, then strip them while they're down. The advantages of doing so are great: It costs much less mojo, is guaranteed to hit, and will usually strip two articles of clothing in one go. Start with Slaps (Tickle for variety), save Shove for when you've worn them down a bit since it costs mojo. Once they're down you should be able to strip their bottoms easily, then mount them. Don't bother hitting them while they are recovering, the damage will just get healed. Instead, use the time you've got on top to pleasure them; that's what wins fights. They'll break away eventually, starting the cycle over. Try not to hurt them too much, since it will reduce arousal. You'll probably get knocked down yourself at some point. Unless you are already winning you should just escape as quickly as possible. If you are doing well, you might risk just getting in some pleasure skills from below to finish them off. Just keep an eye on your willpower, as it will go down when you're in a submissive position. As a rule of thumb, expect to lose about 25-30 willpower in an orgasm early on. So if you've got 35 left and are at the brink of orgasm, just let it happen and you'll be able to go another round. The same goes for your opponents; teasing them is very effective, though difficult to pull off given the limited information you have available. If you can spare the time, use relatively weak skills when you're on top to make full use of your dominance, hoping the eventual orgasm will push them past the threshold.

I hope that helps a bit, despite its lack of structure and rambling nature.

Edit: And like Vintrion said, Finger/Handjob/Kiss and to a lesser extent Fondle Breasts/Tease Chest are very inaccurate from the neutral position, so try to avoid using those. When not in the neutral position, these skills are pretty powerful, though.

 

[nergantre]

Just a note:

Kiss will be mildly nerfed the next patch. It's going to actually have a higher base accuracy and base pleasure especially in the early game. However, the move will go stale much faster, decreasing down to 25% of the original value within 3 uses. The idea behind this is that spamming kiss was a bit too effectively in pretty much any situation. This way it'll still be really good, but you have to mix in some other moves as well.

Update:
I'm pretty much done adding in Kat's new traits. They weren't too hard to code in luckily. After I write in the choice scenes, I'll spend some more time playtesting and hopefully do a release later on this weekend.

New Kat is... interesting. I ended up heavily nerfing the arousal over time stacking mechanic because the pheromone specialization was so strong at first. Frenzy Kat is pretty silly too, she ended up going like 8-0 with all the other NPCs once they got to a high level because she just kept going... and going... and going... :|

Might need some more work.