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JVR

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I believe SubscribeStar is still going strong. They have an explicitly adult section and offshore payment processors.
 

Savin

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and offshore payment processors
None of this was due to some change in some country's laws. Whether your payment processor is in the US, Russia, or the Congo really doesn't matter if the processor itself decides something is icky.
 

Yulaur_the_Small

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The situation overall is rather disappointing and concerning for the future of content creators and others who make a living from the support of others.

While I myself am not affected by this (at the moment), I just wonder what made everyone suddenly care about this kind of stuff now of all times, when things have already been untouched for so many years.
 

JVR

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None of this was due to some change in some country's laws. Whether your payment processor is in the US, Russia, or the Congo really doesn't matter if the processor itself decides something is icky.
Well, however they've done it, they're still managing to operate, so they must be doing something right. I'm not sure how they've set it up, but they're running the censorship blockade.
 

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While I myself am not affected by this (at the moment), I just wonder what made everyone suddenly care about this kind of stuff now of all times, when things have already been untouched for so many years.
Supposedly activist group from Australia (Collective Shout) bothered them about Steam games. In Japan it was already underway (without activist).
the future of content creators and others who make a living from the support of others.
Taking in consideration that paying with card is almost basic necessity nowadays -> it is not only content creators that should pay attention to it.
We see private corporation just deciding above the law - what you can or not buy - power reserved for government - and it would be fine (if you believe that private businesses can say no to client) - if not 3 big ones (with in practice monopoly) did it in same moment.
 
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JVR

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Supposedly activist group from Australia (Collective Shout) bothered them about Steam games. In Japan it was already underway (without activist).
As I've been telling people:

A group of Australian Karens took a giant Collective Shit all over the entire games industry and now we're covered in it. They're a collection of screeching soccer moms who are terrified (and deeply offended) by the thought that some people, somewhere on Earth, might actually been having fun without their express written permission.

Of course, now the whole damn internet is turning on them and they're crying about how they're being "oppressed" by all the evil gamers.
 

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Well, however they've done it, they're still managing to operate, so they must be doing something right. I'm not sure how they've set it up, but they're running the censorship blockade.
It's not a manner of managing or doing something special. It's just refusing to make changes suggested by those activists. The power of ignoring cunts, it's magical to some, common sense to others
 
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JVR

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It's not a manner of managing or doing something special. It's just refusing to make changes suggested by those activists. The power of ignoring cunts, it's magical to some, common sense to others
While I certainly applaud that philosophy, the fact remains that my Visa card is linked into my SubscribeStar account, with which I'm paying for multiple adult content creators. Somehow, they're managing to get around Visa and Mastercard restrictions when by all accounts they should be getting hit with them.
 

Nino

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While I certainly applaud that philosophy, the fact remains that my Visa card is linked into my SubscribeStar account, with which I'm paying for multiple adult content creators. Somehow, they're managing to get around Visa and Mastercard restrictions when by all accounts they should be getting hit with them.
As uneducated in financial law as I am, I would hypothesize one of two factors: Either SubscribeStar simply does not detail what your specific subscriptions are to Visa and Mastercard; Or Visa and Mastercard do not have the literal authority to deny your lawful purchases and are reliant on pure pressure tactics to coerce the services themselves to refuse to be the host of the transactions.