Breeders of the Nephelym

[karunama]

I knew I'd seen this somewhere. @karunama, answering your initial question:Sorry. Though I've noted that catching nephelym is not terribly difficult, at least in this iteration, so I suppose it could be played as a 'hunting and training' game rather than a breeding game, if you wanted to stick to same-sex stuff. Not that there's any animations for that (yet).

Sorry, friend. That doesn't answer my question. It *is* my question.

That quote by the OP is literally the reason I posted my initial question in the first place. That is what I wanted extra clarification on, as regards whether or not there would be an actual game left without being able to breed in a breeding game.

To put it another way, when I play a porn game, I want it to actually be a fun game beyond just the fap material. If all I wanted was to have something to fap to, there's plenty of porn that I don't have to stop using my hands to interact with available.

As such, from my PoV, if the same sex inclusion only extends to the sex itself, and not to the actual *game* part of the game, it's an utterly meaningless token effort. Whether or not that's the case here; that's what I want to know about.

Although it's a bit late, regarding @TheDarkMaster's compromise solution, that would likely work for some folks, but tbh, I don't even want to *look* at watermelon titbeasts, let alone capture them and make use of them over and over. By the same token, I'm sure there are people that only want to own nekkid females and no males in their breeding pits.

 

[kyleamus2]

Sorry, friend. That doesn't answer my question. It *is* my question.

That quote by the OP is literally the reason I posted my initial question in the first place. That is what I wanted extra clarification on, as regards whether or not there would be an actual game left without being able to breed in a breeding game.

To put it another way, when I play a porn game, I want it to actually be a fun game beyond just the fap material. If all I wanted was to have something to fap to, there's plenty of porn that I don't have to stop using my hands to interact with available.

As such, from my PoV, if the same sex inclusion only extends to the sex itself, and not to the actual *game* part of the game, it's an utterly meaningless token effort. Whether or not that's the case here; that's what I want to know about.

Although it's a bit late, regarding @TheDarkMaster's compromise solution, that would likely work for some folks, but tbh, I don't even want to *look* at watermelon titbeasts, let alone capture them and make use of them over and over. By the same token, I'm sure there are people that only want to own nekkid females and no males in their breeding pits.

I am only interested in M/M content too and I was just about to post. "Just get over it and skip the scenes". Not doing that now. Also total side note not at all relating to this but i'm stealing "watermelon titbeasts"

 

[Cog]

Sorry, friend. That doesn't answer my question. It *is* my question.

That quote by the OP is literally the reason I posted my initial question in the first place. That is what I wanted extra clarification on, as regards whether or not there would be an actual game left without being able to breed in a breeding game...

As such, from my PoV, if the same sex inclusion only extends to the sex itself, and not to the actual *game* part of the game, it's an utterly meaningless token effort. Whether or not that's the case here; that's what I want to know about..

So, the question is not 'can I breed M/M,' but 'can I enjoy this game fully without dealing with F content'? If that is the case (and especially given your 'watermelon titbeast' comment), no, it's unavoidable. One of the more 'artsy' critiques I have of this game is that there is a hyper-busty female motif all over the place. For someone who likes the ladies, it's not actually a problem, and there's lore reasons for it to exist, though personally I think the motif is a rather too busty. For you, it would probably be gross, if not sickening. I haven't tried out unchecking the boxes for F content, but the busty woman motif is baked into the landscape itself, so I can't imagine that it's going away.

If you can tolerate F content, I think you could play the game, either as TheDarkMaster suggested, or as a hunting game, as I suggested, but not as an M/M breeding game, and in this current iteration there's really no point.

In response to whether this is an 'utterly meaningless token effort,' I see your point, though I humbly disagree. I realize that, as you say, from your POV, there is no point, but in a broader sense there is purpose in opening up the option, even if (and I absolutely agree with you on this) it is not sufficient for all players. Which probably seems obvious to you and others who prefer M/M, but might not to everyone.

I hope I interpreted your clarification properly.

@Between the Rocks, Oh, ok. I guess I've always interpreted Futanari to simply mean 'fem!herm', then. I've seen enough hentai billed as 'futa' that such seems to be the only consistency. Size is often part, but no more than size is a part of all porn. And you're right. Male!herms are almost nonexistent, to the extent that I completely forgot about them when asking my original question. I apologize for my oversight.

 

[Full Metal Creator]

So, the question is not 'can I breed M/M,' but 'can I enjoy this game fully without dealing with F content'? If that is the case (and especially given your 'watermelon titbeast' comment), no, it's unavoidable. One of the more 'artsy' critiques I have of this game is that there is a hyper-busty female motif all over the place. For someone who likes the ladies, it's not actually a problem, and there's lore reasons for it to exist, though personally I think the motif is a rather too busty. For you, it would probably be gross, if not sickening. I haven't tried out unchecking the boxes for F content, but the busty woman motif is baked into the landscape itself, so I can't imagine that it's going away.

If you can tolerate F content, I think you could play the game, either as TheDarkMaster suggested, or as a hunting game, as I suggested, but not as an M/M breeding game, and in this current iteration there's really no point.

In response to whether this is an 'utterly meaningless token effort,' I see your point, though I humbly disagree. I realize that, as you say, from your POV, there is no point, but in a broader sense there is purpose in opening up the option, even if (and I absolutely agree with you on this) it is not sufficient for all players. Which probably seems obvious to you and others who prefer M/M, but might not to everyone.

I hope I interpreted your clarification properly.

@Between the Rocks, Oh, ok. I guess I've always interpreted Futanari to simply mean 'fem!herm', then. I've seen enough hentai billed as 'futa' that such seems to be the only consistency. Size is often part, but no more than size is a part of all porn. And you're right. Male!herms are almost nonexistent, to the extent that I completely forgot about them when asking my original question. I apologize for my oversight.

I don't agree that the game is "unplayable". That said, it shouldn't be hard to add a mode where M/M and F/F breeding is possible.
I mean, i don't have any idea how they implemented it. But as I imagine how it's it shouldn't be hard.

 

[Cog]

@Full Metal Creator I imagine adding M/M or F/F breeding would only be a matter of a few lines of code, really (making the pairings bear offspring), but as I quoted earlier, the author has stated that s/he plans to stick to the standard for this sort of game, specifically that M/M and F/F pairings for sex would not produce offspring.

I'm also not sure where you pulled 'unplayable' from. I never said, or implied, that the game was unplayable. Just that karunama would not likely enjoy playing it, given the prevalence of naked, hyper-sexualized feminine art in the background, and the fact that, currently, there is not yet any M/M content in the game.

Also, @karunama, I think I (finally) understand what you were originally saying. I'm an idiot, I apologize. I haven't seen anything from DerelictWulf about alternate routes (other than sex) for same-sex breeding, so I guess we'll have to wait for his verdict.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Given the explosion of funding and likely high number of comments that the author has been getting around the internet that high amount of funding would imply, it seems unlikely that we'll be hearing from the author much on this forum anymore or at least less frequently. The amount of feedback may very well be overwhelming.

 

[karunama]

@Cog No worries. To clarify, I understand that that's just from *my* PoV.

I will say however, that when I see... shall we say, 'insufficient gameplay for minority gamers'? Anyway, when I see such, my immediate (and clearly quite cynical) interpretation is that they were hoping to score the minority dollar with a minority of effort, if you will. A token effort for a token crowd, etc.

I fully realize that may be overly uncharitable of me, but that's the first thought that pops into my head.

@TheDarkMaster I was half convinced I scared him off, lol.

 

[DerelictWulf]

Didn't realize this thread was still so active! I stopped getting notifications when people replied, so I thought it was dead. And no, you can't scare me off.

Let's see if I can quickly address the conclusion that you guys seem to have come to: that my game isn't a game, but just some cheap porn cash grab.

Not at all! The current gameplay is lacking, I even said this on release. Why? Well, because it's not finished yet. Being just one guy, it's going to take time for the game to take shape, but I love working on it and have a great plan. I focus on the sex content because that's what people want the most out of an h-game. That's not to say I don't want to improve the adventure mode experience, quite the opposite.

@TheDarkMaster is correct that the response for this game has been explosive, far more than I anticipated so fast. The amount of feedback is staggering, but nothing I can't handle. What is frustrating is that everyone is demanding something completely different! Since launch, I have listened to feedback and made improvements--releasing no less than 5 additive builds and it hasn't even been a month yet. I don't know how else to show that I am dedicated to this game...

 

[karunama]

Didn't realize this thread was still so active! I stopped getting notifications when people replied, so I thought it was dead. And no, you can't scare me off.

Let's see if I can quickly address the conclusion that you guys seem to have come to: that my game isn't a game, but just some cheap porn cash grab.

Not at all! The current gameplay is lacking, I even said this on release. Why? Well, because it's not finished yet. Being just one guy, it's going to take time for the game to take shape, but I love working on it and have a great plan. I focus on the sex content because that's what people want the most out of an h-game. That's not to say I don't want to improve the adventure mode experience, quite the opposite.

@TheDarkMaster is correct that the response for this game has been explosive, far more than I anticipated so fast. The amount of feedback is staggering, but nothing I can't handle. What is frustrating is that everyone is demanding something completely different! Since launch, I have listened to feedback and made improvements--releasing no less than 5 additive builds and it hasn't even been a month yet. I don't know how else to show that I am dedicated to this game...

No, you're misunderstanding what was being said. The answer I got or conclusion, if you'd rather, is that if you're not interested in str8 sex, there isn't enough left to call it a game. It may be a serviceable enough game for straight people, but I'm not straight, and watermelon titbeasts are a major turnoff. I like to avoid them as much as I possibly can, and from what was said on here, that would be flatout impossible if i actually want to enjoy the 'game' part of your game.

To clarify, it was never your dedication to completing your vision that I questioned, but the inclusiveness of that vision. To put it another way, I only got interested because of the option screen showing that you can select the pairings you can see. However, that sort of thing isn't uncommon in games that are chiefly str8 oriented; their devs think that 1 gay scene out of thousands is all it takes to get the gay dollar. Moreover, if the actual *game* part of the game is locked behind str8 content...

 

[Flowgenz]

I read that you're going to add sliders for body morphing, like breasts and penis, but will there also be more advanced sliders? I mean like clit or nipple sliders? I think it would be great to be able to customize your character with many things in a game like this one. Btw, you've done a really nice game so far!

 

[CherieBits]

@DerelictWulf Alright so! I wasn't actually planning on making an account here just for this single post, but I might as well anyway.

First and foremost, I want to say that so far the game is fantastic and has so much potential.

However, I have a couple... suggestions? For things that haven't been fully released yet. Obviously you are free to take them in stride, but these are my personal opinions on some things.

1) As someone who is super into M/M, I would absolutely LOVE the option to be able to get more feminine-based male creatures. For example, a male Vulwarg but much smaller and resembling the female base more. Same goes for F/F; having the option to make a slightly more masculine-based female would be wonderful. Taller, fitter, maybe not a massive chest, things like that.

1.5) Sorta going off the same-sex pairs with this one, but another possible option is when you're setting up a pair (when you're choosing which two creatures you want to breed), one side is the "receiving" end and the other is the "giving" end. Obviously it would default for M/F pairs, but especially for M/M and F/F/ pairs, it would be nice to be able to pair them up certain ways that would be pleasing to watch. Let's pretend I have 3 Male Vulwargs; a blue, a red, and a green (grabbing random colors that I've seen) And lets say I really like imagining when paired with Red, Blue is the receiver, but if I pair Blue up with Green, I'd rather Blue be the receiver. (hopefully this makes sense; I just thought an option for something like this would be nice for people like me who have specific role preferences)

2) I saw a suggestion somewhere before that I actually really liked. Basically, it's in regards to how most of the female creatures are "human" based, while the males are entirely anthro based. It would be nice to have a little of both, if you're someone like me who'd prefer a more humanoid Vulwarg for example.


I do believe those are my only thoughts at the moment, but all in all this is a super great game! I love all the things I've seen so far, and please keep up the amazing work!

 

[AZUL55]

¿Cuáles son los requisitos del juego? No sé si mi Pc sea muy fuerte para soportarlo.

 

[IvoryOwl]

¿Cuáles son los requisitos del juego? No sé si mi Pc sea muy fuerte para soportarlo.

Translation: "What are the system requisites to play this game? I don't know if my PC will be able to handle it."

AZUL55, this is an english forum, people will understand (and therefore be able to help you) if you stick to English. Even something as a shody Google translation will do... for the most part.

 

[AZUL55]

Does it require this to play?

• OS: Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP
• Processor:Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 @ 2.66 GHz or AMD Phenom X3 8750
• Memory:2 GB RAM
• Graphics:GeForce 8800 GT series with 512 MB RAM or ATI Radeon HD4850 with 512MB RAM
• DirectX®:9.0c
• Hard Drive:7 GB HD space
• SoundirectX® 9.0c or later

 

[IvoryOwl]

Does it require this to play?

• OS: Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP
• Processor:Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 @ 2.66 GHz or AMD Phenom X3 8750
• Memory:2 GB RAM
• Graphics:GeForce 8800 GT series with 512 MB RAM or ATI Radeon HD4850 with 512MB RAM
• DirectX®:9.0c
• Hard Drive:7 GB HD space
• SoundirectX® 9.0c or later

Straight up, given the scope of this project and its graphical quality, no, those specs aren't strong enough.
(Bad)Translation: No, eses requisitos no son suficientes para jugar el jogo.

 

[AZUL55]

Ok, what are the minimum requirements?

 

[Tyranical]

Definitely looks promising, here's a few ideas after playing it:

1) "R" key Auto-Run function

2) "Spacebar" Jump function (those pesky fences)

3) A 2-3 day delayed pregnancy timer (a la Sims 3/4); basically, if you keep them happy and well-fed, the new one may have better stats, and if you feed them certain foods/give certain items, the new one may be born with certain traits, etc.

4) "M" key Map function

Just some ideas. Glad to see the warp points. Keep up the good work!

 

[Ainonna]

From the few times that I've tried to breed/be bred by Nephelym, none of them have produced any offspring. Which begs the question: can breeders impregnate/be impregnated by Nephelym? Breeders of any and all genders, naturally.
Also, the movement speed is somewhat of a problem. Since I've read that before it was incredibly slow and now is very fast, how about trying to add a walk/run button? It would solve a lot of problems for a lot of people.

 

[Ainonna]

I take back my last post. I just managed to be bred by my Nephelym.

 

[Ainonna]

Though I have to admit that my game is 180° different than what I see here in the pics or the vid. And why is only doggy available while breeding? Can it be unlocked by acquiring other Nephelym or can it be unlocked some other way?

 

[balitz Method]

The character creator is a bit hard to use and not very powerful. It doesn't actually seem to be able to change the basic framework of the default bodies and only some of the sliders have any real customization potential to them; the rest just take it to proportions that look odd without being able to adjust the actual skeleton.

I'm guessing it's just a basic alpha first draft version, though.

 

[Ainonna]

Well, it appears that the version I have is 0.640, whereas the version those pics have is 0.610, which explains the difference.

 

[TheCount99]

Ainonna, to answer a few things you mentioned:

Holding shift let's you run, so that helps for movement speed. Also, in some previous builds there were some quick-travel points. They are gone in the current one, but that's probably due to the fact that the creator had to do some significant re-building of the game to make creating more breeding animations easier in the future. They will probably be back later.

Doggy is the only breeding animation in the game right now. It currently works for hetero only (futa works in both roles), and not for every combination. In the latest public build, it works for any two monsters of the same size, as well as "large" male (Cow, Demon, Seraph) with "normal" female (Human, Fox). The patreon build added "normal" male with "large" female. According to the dev post, he is also currently working on missionary position as well.

It's definitely a work in progress, but for being made entirely by one person, I'm quite impressed with it.

 

[Nnxx]

Well, that looks definitely looks interesting. I'll wait for it to have more content to try it but I'll keep an eye on it. From what I've seen on the screenshots, the models are pretty neat.. Now to see the animations

Alright, actually I didn't see the date on the first post, I thought it was something new.
Went to the patreon, saw 2186 patreons for 8k+$ / month and after testing it, I can see why. There has been a tremendous amount of work in this game, it is well optimized, I reach a constant 60 FPS without forcing (1050 Ti + i5 4690K) and the game is beautiful.
Everything is highly professionnal and I'm really looking forward to it.

That would be a game I wouldn't mind paying 60 bucks to buy it.

 

[Ainonna]

One thing that strikes me as unusual is: why one doesn't have any collars/milk/sperm at the start? I understand that giving the heightened amount of money grants you the ability to buy them, but the cost comparison is also different.
Also, what is the arousing item for futa Vulwargs?

 

[crashtestben]

Holy crap, this looks awesome!

 

[TheCount99]

One thing that strikes me as unusual is: why one doesn't have any collars/milk/sperm at the start? I understand that giving the heightened amount of money grants you the ability to buy them, but the cost comparison is also different.
Also, what is the arousing item for futa Vulwargs?

Futa Vulwargs like Bovaur milk. At least it did today. I swear last time it didn't work though, so something may be a bit buggy there. I went through every consumable, and didn't find anything for the male Harpy though.

 

[Nnxx]

BTW, is doggystyle the only position in the latest public release? And I can't find Camilla?

 

[TheCount99]

BTW, is doggystyle the only position in the latest public release? And I can't find Camilla?

Yes, it's only doggystyle right now. The latest patreon post says he is currently working on missionary as well. And Camilla doesn't exist at the moment. I assume she will be back.

 

[Ainonna]

BTW, is doggystyle the only position in the latest public release? And I can't find Camilla?

I don't think Carmilla is there at all, just as there are no teleport stones.