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TheHiddenOne

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I very much doubt it, since Farrah's main purpose in being there is to provide you with someone who can help refurbish the Wayfort if you don't become Ryn's vassal, or in conjunction with Daliza depending on how you do it. The text makes it clear that refusing both options will cut you out of the Wayfort refurbishment content, so adding a third option seems... extremely unlikely.

Oh yeah, I forgot that the Kitty can help you rebuild it..
I really just ment as a shopkeeper in the Wayford, with nothing more than a shop and maybe some scenes. Not a third choice as a rebuilder. ^^
 

Shmebulock

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Pony training for bipeds and chariot racing. "Enlist" companions and other unfortunate souls, become a pony yourself if you swing that way. Enact discipline, train champions, enjoy the races.

Sugar cubes for the winners, riding crop for the losers. Somehow even winners want to lose sometimes. Fun for the whole family.

Please and thank you.
 
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Wint3rRyd3r

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riding crop for the losers.

Yeah that's a reward. Riding crops should be in game regardless. Praise the mighty Riding Crop in the sky. I'll lose just for that.
 

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The ability to go topless, but not full nude - seeing how mothgirl in Harvest Valley dangles her melons around, manages to maintain her gesr and even has books to read, on top of the fact Bondage Gear bares all your sexual assets anyways, I don't see why I can't dangle my own hoohas - Leather Coat isn't quite descriptive in its appearance apart from "Exposed Chest," and guys can go around baring chest to the world anyways.
 

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I'd like it if there was an consumable item sort of like Breeder's Bliss in TiTs, or the "Fuck Draft" in CoC.
That way a PC would be capable of getting Heat / Rut without being a specific race or having to travel to a certain NPC (Hretha) to get an increase in Fertility / Virility (as well as being able to get additional affects such as a temporary increase to Raw Cum output, Libido and Tease damage - for the duration of the status affect of the item).
 

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Red Cow Wine does this, it's just gated behind behind Kas-specific content and is limited in supply right now.

Hence, the suggestion. Also:

(as well as being able to get additional affects such as a temporary increase to Raw Cum output, Libido and Tease damage - for the duration of the status affect of the item).

Red Cow Wine doesn't account for the above, just for the addition of the Libidinous perk and increasing Libido permanently.
That's part of why I suggested something similar to the above two consumables (Breeder's Bliss and the "Fuck Draft") - because the Red Cow Wine doesn't have all of those affects.
 

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That wasn't how I read the text of that scene. I definitely got the idea you were trying to save his soul, not just his cock.
The scene specifically mentions he cannot be saved but that wasn't the point. The PLAYER will usually only care about a gigantic centaur with a massive cock in a sex game if they want to fuck him. If you just leave him in the alraune's garden he just fucks the plant all the time anyway. If she's dead and you brought home one demon without the other then that's too bad.
 

Stupid_Goo

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The scene specifically mentions he cannot be saved but that wasn't the point.

The scene specifically mentions that white magic can heal him, but it isn't working on the corruption - he'd have to fight it on his own.
So odds are sending him to the Alraune garden is an attempt to heal him, if not just to get him away from potentially harming a bunch of people that haven't been irreparably corrupted by the demons.
 

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I was hesitant to kill the Behemoth after the fight at the centaur village because I knew
the next encounter was going to be with the corrupted chieftain, was naturally worried about anything that might affect the chances of breaking him free of demonic twisting.

Now that the centaurs have to keep him in a cave under restraint it would be helpful if there was another option offered, alongside taking him to the wayfort also having the choice to give him the (late) mercy-kill if purification is impossible.
Because I sure as hell don't want it in my barony but I feel bad about leaving the Centaur village dealing with that burden forever.

Its not like the game shies away from letting the player kill heavily corrupted horse dudes, its an option in common mob encounters even.
 

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The scene specifically mentions that white magic can heal him, but it isn't working on the corruption - he'd have to fight it on his own.
So odds are sending him to the Alraune garden is an attempt to heal him, if not just to get him away from potentially harming a bunch of people that haven't been irreparably corrupted by the demons.
Yeah, the first time I played through the quest I didn't realise that the Behemoth was impossibly broken and there was no way to fix him. I just thought we needed more time, or to take on a special sidequest or meet an NPC with more mojo than the hero or Cait.
 

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Can any of you truly say that there's a better way to communicate "hey you can't fix this" short of putting bold fucking text saying "HEY YOU CAN'T FIX HIM, FOR REAL LOL" at the bottom of the scene? There's literally nothing more I could have done to tell you that he's unfixable short of just removing the scene entirely and letting the player figure it out, but I think everyone knows where that would go. The garden is meant to be a bit of a sanctuary for him, so he is "healing" in the sense that he's more or less at peace.
 

Shmebulock

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If you bring the Behemoth or any other broken puppet to your demesne is to expand your toy collection, not to cleanse their souls.

You're not starting a redemption clinic (that's the stuff of Mr. Ewan McGregor over there in the chapel). Your main task is to try to out-offspring Genghis Khan and maybe run a world-saving scheme slash social mobility ladder for Champion.

If you like solving emotional puzzles I guess there's Ryn (she gets a pass thanks to being an obedient cooler for the warm summer nights), but the rest of your entourage better have their shit together or the world won't last. Looking at you, Berwyn, you grumpy dysfunctional muppet.
 

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Can any of you truly say that there's a better way to communicate "hey you can't fix this" short of putting bold fucking text saying "HEY YOU CAN'T FIX HIM, FOR REAL LOL" at the bottom of the scene? There's literally nothing more I could have done to tell you that he's unfixable short of just removing the scene entirely and letting the player figure it out, but I think everyone knows where that would go. The garden is meant to be a bit of a sanctuary for him, so he is "healing" in the sense that he's more or less at peace.
Imps and Centaur Packleaders don't have the option to cast healing on them, only to slaughter them, so I can see why people would think this unique encounter is different from the others.

Personally all I'm asking for is the option to put the creature out of his misery when he's in custody at the village.
 

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Can any of you truly say that there's a better way to communicate "hey you can't fix this" short of putting bold fucking text saying "HEY YOU CAN'T FIX HIM, FOR REAL LOL" at the bottom of the scene? There's literally nothing more I could have done to tell you that he's unfixable short of just removing the scene entirely and letting the player figure it out, but I think everyone knows where that would go. The garden is meant to be a bit of a sanctuary for him, so he is "healing" in the sense that he's more or less at peace.
I went back to an old save to take a look cause i was curious and yeah, if you try to save him with Cait it literally says that you cannot save him no matter what. Even if some players want to hope that saving him could one day be implemented, it's already said that he can't be.

In a way it's kind of pointless too because then it just looks like whatever Kasyrra does to Savarra and it's people doesn't have any real permanent effects since they're reversible, which can make it so what Kasyrra is doing to the game world seem kind of ~whatever~ to the person who's playing.

Although i don't disagree that it would be nice to be able to save the guy, i get that it isn't and support that as well.

Personally all I'm asking for is the option to put the creature out of his misery when he's in custody at the village.
I agree with this, i'd like this as well, at least it makes for something simple-ish(?) to do that also supports a little bit of roleplay, especially if the player did the quest without Cait (or if they're not a white mage) and didn't get the option to try and purify him, thus not getting the text which makes it explicit that he can't be saved; that way players can get a "at least you tried" feeling without being obligated to have Cait (or be a white mage) with them for the dungeon.
 

Wint3rRyd3r

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I thought it was pretty well implied that the behemoth is too far gone because of whatever Kasyrra did to him. Maybe not clearly stated, but definitly easy to infer. And he's pretty calm and docile in the garden so it's kinda like helping him get better.

It's been stated a lot that just equipment alone wouldn't be added and that everything is viable. With that in mind, I'd like different weapons based on cultures. It's mentioned in the curved blade's description that the elves use curved weapons. So seeing the weapons used in Tychris, the Winter City, etc. would be really interesting. On a similar note, I'd like a non-ranged version of stick and move as a weapon sill. There have been historic weapons that are hooked/have a hook that's used to disarm or to reposition and take control. Love me some world building.
 

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I took out Behemoth (and Alraune) for my playthrough so the fort is a bit quiet for me at the moment.

And hook weapons would be interesting. Or a Morningstar as a relic or something.
 
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So seeing the weapons used in Tychris, the Winter City, etc. would be really interesting.

Well, you can see the weapons used in Winter City: the elves really like greatspears, bows, and curved blades of one and two-handed natures.

You'll get a chance to see Tychrisian weapons soon enough (staves, scimitars, one-handed spears). Though unlike Winter City, these will mostly be kept on nice peoples' belts :p
 

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)

On that subject, I wish Arona's picture in-game was the same as her pic in the design document. She looks so much better that way.
 

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Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.
You realize the game's art assets are accessible, right? Take the picture you want of Taur!Kas, rename it to the filename used by her normal picture, repeat across the various folders as appropriate and there you go. You could make it work with Arona's design doc art too, with a bit more effort.
 

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Can any of you truly say that there's a better way to communicate "hey you can't fix this" short of putting bold fucking text saying "HEY YOU CAN'T FIX HIM, FOR REAL LOL" at the bottom of the scene? There's literally nothing more I could have done to tell you that he's unfixable short of just removing the scene entirely and letting the player figure it out, but I think everyone knows where that would go. The garden is meant to be a bit of a sanctuary for him, so he is "healing" in the sense that he's more or less at peace.

On a tangentially related subject, the game communicates "this is a serious decision which is irreversible once made" more effectively for you picking a color for Sugo's caparison, which doesn't even show up on his picture, than it does for many of the game's most portentious decisions (eg sabotaging Arona's plan by attacking Argoth directly, thereby permanently removing the entire warcamp and several characters along with it). Bold text PLUS a "are you sure?" prompt is good technology to have in the game, and maybe there are artistic reasons for not allowing it in all cases, but it seems weird to have it in places where it doesn't really matter at all, and not have in in places where it borders on ruining your game because you walked blindly into a wrong decision.
 

Quicksilver Tongue

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You realize the game's art assets are accessible, right? Take the picture you want of Taur!Kas, rename it to the filename used by her normal picture, repeat across the various folders as appropriate and there you go. You could make it work with Arona's design doc art too, with a bit more effort.

1. I play the game through my browser so I don't think I have any access to files; if I do, I don't know how. Even if Windows normally stores the game info in some specific place, I'm using a Linux computer and I don't actually understand how Linux operates, so I wouldn't know where to look.

2. I'd be very scared of accidentally breaking the game if I messed around in the files because I don't know what I'm doing. I've irreparably screwed up several previous computer games by trying to edit core files and shit in ways that I didn't know about - my favorite computer game of all time, Diablo 2, has a semi-official editing program called Atma which I use to move items from character to character, but the program is bugged, and several times I've accidentally deleted an entire character by trying to move one item onto them which has some kind of rogue code in it which I don't have control over.
 

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)
Hey those bolded bits? Stop that. I don't see why you're doing that.
 

Tide Hunter

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After seeing the centaur version of Kasyrra that you get from a bad end on saving Barney, I find myself wishing that I could permanently replace zir normal version with this look. I wouldn't care if the text still described zim as humanoid, as long as I got the better picture. (Pretty much all of my distaste for some of the game's NPCs could be mitigated if I had more of a choice of what I had to look at while I was in a scene with them.)
Why are you using gender neutral terms to refer to Kasyrra, a character who very clearly and explicitly presents as female (note that she has extremely strong shapeshifting magic, and when Demons first transform they chose what form they wish to take based on their deepest wishes and desires, so her presenting as female aside from the giant horse cock would certainly be deliberate on her part) and who is always referred to using female pronouns?
 

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Since we are on Behemoth, you know what is a false advertising? His initial anal sex scene. Where did it go? That is the only reason I rescued that walking didlo.

Why are you using gender neutral terms to refer to Kasyrra, a character who very clearly and explicitly presents as female (note that she has extremely strong shapeshifting magic, and when Demons first transform they chose what form they wish to take based on their deepest wishes and desires, so her presenting as female aside from the giant horse cock would certainly be deliberate on her part) and who is always referred to using female pronouns?
When did zir become gender neutral term?
 
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Lets not begin that conversation here. You can spot the derailment a mile away and its not the place to enlighten people with views.

Regarding weaponry, I like the fact that the only two handed sword seems to be a meteoric iron one. That is, iron with more % of carbon, the steel before damascus steel. Details like that make a world, if not "realistic", at least coherent with its own rules. More details and nuances in that regard would add texture to the world
 

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Lets not begin that conversation here. You can spot the derailment a mile away and its not the place to enlighten people with views.

Regarding weaponry, I like the fact that the only two handed sword seems to be a meteoric iron one. That is, iron with more % of carbon, the steel before damascus steel. Details like that make a world, if not "realistic", at least coherent with its own rules. More details and nuances in that regard would add texture to the world

Wait which sword? The swift sword? I'm pretty sure the other two handers are stated to be bronze or the metal isn't described or stated.
 

Shmebulock

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Wait which sword? The swift sword? I'm pretty sure the other two handers are stated to be bronze or the metal isn't described or stated.

Claymore (was it claymore?) of moth girl

And if the other blades are not axes or what have you but a solid piece of bronze... then you're looking at a boomerang after some strikes. If those are not magic anyway
 
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Wint3rRyd3r

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Claymore (was it claymore?) of moth girl

I'm pretty sure that one is silver steel from the description. And it's not native to Savarra. At least, not the one she has.

https://forum.fenoxo.com/threads/your-gripes-with-coc-ii.19814/page-36#post-352063

That link should take you to Savin's quote on it. Even if he didn't write the scene, I think it's his character. So it wouldn't be included without his approval probably. I would like that sword, or at least a more balanced version. Doubt fluffy moth Lusina would ever willingly part with it though.
 
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