Personally I self insert because theres not alot of relatable black characters in stuff like this or fantasy in general.
Your gripes with CoC II
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This for me for sure. At some point in early childhood I did self-inserts that were idealized versions of me in an "when I grow up" type of way, but these days my sense of self-worth just won't let me. I haven't played a character that shared anything more than the most basic sense of right and wrong (and frequently not even that) for 20 years in any RPG. Sometimes I make characters based on stories, like a made a Warrior that was directly inspired by the MC from the Heretic Spellblade haremlit books, or I made a futanari barbarian based off some random smut story that I liked the description of. But frequently these days I'll go with "archetypes" like "heroic knight" or "evil sorceress" or the like, and then just spin off that to some degree.
I have a friend on the other hand who is the complete and total opposite and just can't play a game if he can't self-insert as if it was him today that ended up in that situation, and when he does play then he can only play the game once, and will vehemently claim that was the only way it could have happened as if it was a preset movie or the like, because that's the only way he would have played it. To his defense he's mildly autistic of the aspy type, hence the extreme angle of that, but it's given me better insight into people who prefer self-inserts for sure dealing with him...
Ryn's balls look too small in her art, imo. I get that's the winter elves "thing", but it lightly squicks me out.
Minor thing, but after seeing Etheryn without her chastity cage, seeing her with it makes me uncomfortable.
Her member looks like it is 4-5 times the size of the cage. Being in there must have been painful..
Also, now that she is uncaged, can we increase that size as well? =P
Her member looks like it is 4-5 times the size of the cage. Being in there must have been painful..
Also, now that she is uncaged, can we increase that size as well? =P
I'm fairly certain Sav has said somewhere that Ryn's cock size won't be changeable. In game, she likes the size of her cock and isn't keen on changing it. Writing wise, she has so many parsers to account for and keep up with already that it would be absolute hell to add another, as well as having to go back through the already-written content (again) to account for the new variation.
I got some prbs to gripe about real quick they might seem petty but blowing up minor gripes is my thing so, why is it that with certain areas and NPCs there are price changes but they don't make sense? An example is in Khor'minos you'll find gems to sell in the tunnels, the mage-fox vendor will buy them for cheap but up the road and the tainted-herbs dealer buy them for half the original value, so this implies that Khor' is used to having these gems around but when I go somewhere like Hawkthrone I still end up selling them for the same half price? The Economy hasn't been thoroughly thought through.
Another thing is that the Kitsune merchant with the champion thighs is in disguise selling goods at a high price but all you have to do to circumvent that is go to den, there should be a cycle for her to be in the den and then going on the road to hustle.
Another thing is that the Kitsune merchant with the champion thighs is in disguise selling goods at a high price but all you have to do to circumvent that is go to den, there should be a cycle for her to be in the den and then going on the road to hustle.
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When creating a character strength is the only attribute that is left inaccessible when playing certain classes as certain races. Every other stat is included in one of the two all-class backgrounds, and some like the warrior class can completely ignore having to pick and choose attributes entirely so long as they pick Noble Scion as their background. It won't necessarily cripple a character, but it doesn't feel great playing something like a White Mage Spellsword as any race other than Orc or Lupine when you know either of the two aforementioned groups come built-in with an attribute your preferred character doesn't even get the option of picking.
The attribute system seems like a really good idea for building up certain types of playstyles but when one class can work around the system just by its own merit while others force you to either play as a character you don't want to or miss out on building up your character in the way you want to and it just makes the system seem like an unnecessary complication added to the system
The attribute system seems like a really good idea for building up certain types of playstyles but when one class can work around the system just by its own merit while others force you to either play as a character you don't want to or miss out on building up your character in the way you want to and it just makes the system seem like an unnecessary complication added to the system
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Are you... are you talking about affinities? I assume so, given you talking about how "Every other stat is included in one of the two all-class backgrounds." If so, then I'd have to guess you haven't updated your game in a really long time, because affinities were removed in February of 2022. They still stuck around in name, but they no longer mattered mechanically, as from that point onwards we've been able to level up any stat regardless of class, race, and background.
Back when they were still in the game, I found them really annoying and I complained about it too, but it's been gone for well over a year. Why bring it up now?
Presence based warriors makes for great tank types, I'm playing a mirror mage based one now that is Toughness, Willpower and Presence as traits with either Agility or Strength as Boons depending on what I need, that usually has a summon ready and wears Conqueror's Plate, Helm of Heroes and Guldring all to boost leadership, and then with the right gear you get a near unkillable summoner tank that buffs everyone else and can do some holy smiting when needed. Swap toughness for Strength and get Agility as a Boon when needed for heavier stuff, and you get a somewhat more squishy paladin type instead.
Yeah Affinities were more than a bit annoying, I ended up making two noble scion human warriors that swapped classes later for example with my desired spread, just to get around that. While I still feel mixed about removal of Resolve (while a semi awkward system, removing it made Charmers weird, and it means that unless you get blueballed quickly or the like, which can be much easier avoided, there's no longer any need to worry about filling up your resolve in trade for some corruption points, though town teleport kinda made that moot also I guess, it just still seems like a vital part of the mix to loose), removing Affinities was good.
I was going off the information provided by the wiki, and was also really annoyed that the classes and everything in game didn't even show what affinities the characters would get but I guess it was the wiki that hasn't been updated in a really long time lol. Thanks for the reply because I probably wouldn't have known this at all otherwise. Looking at it again (editing this post) I guess it makes sense to keep some of the info there for people who do want to play on older versions but it'd be nice if they could make it a bit clearer that they were removed from newer versions for the benefit of idiots like me
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They usually do have something at the top for outdated posts, like "PAGE PENDING OVERHAUL" at the top of the page for The Seven. I guess they just forgot that they need to update the classes page.
The wiki is entirely volunteer, and we've all got real lives to attend to before the wiki. That being said, we're starting to hammer away at bringing it up to date as quickly as possible. It was also in our best interests to wait until the combat reworks were completely finished before reworking those pages, since it would create more work if stuff got reworked more than once (which it did).
Yeah the wiki's useless past a certain point. You have to just hope and pray that the information you want can be found on the forums.
Why is the love confession scene with Etheryn locked behind either you letting her fuck you or sharing her with Elthara? Sending her to Cait just sends you to the end.
I thought it was pretty clear how desperately she wanted out of the cage and to use it once free. Trying out bottoming once for a lover isn't to big a deal I would of thought.
If you go with Elthara you can have her do the majority of bottoming for you anyway.
If you truly love somebody, you'll be willing take it in the butt for them at least once. 'least that's what I think. Champ not being willing to do that, despite knowing how desperately she wanted the cage off and to use her natural-born tool once she could, could be interpreted by her as one of those cases of 'actions before words'.
I am not privy to her expansion, but not really: Ryn never took me as someone whose ultimatum for loving you was "Bottom to me or buzz off." It makes her whole prior lovely dovey stuff feel out of place in retrospect. Like why waste time engaging with her, trying to make her feel comfortable and helping her to begin with if your final love confession come down to you going down on her.
Makes her seem pretty deceving in retrospect.
That's because it's not an ultimatum. She never once is "Bottom to me or buzz off," she's "I have been tormented psychologically and sexually by my sister and trapped in a soul-locked cock cage for years. You are the one who freed me, so I want my first time using my cock to be with you, whether I'm fucking you or Elthara."
I have no idea how you're slotting "deception" into Ryn's character when she is just about the LEAST manipulative character in the game.
That's not how it goes down. And you can always just have someone else do it.
Maybe if you keep Ryn low confidence you get a very different impression from her. I wouldn't know. I'm not sure if you thought the goal was to get Ryn used to never having a dick or using it but that wasn't the goal. Again, maybe low confidence gives a different impression, but even low confidence Ryn to my understanding doesn't want to remain caged and the whole...desperation to remove the cage implies she wants to use her freed dick at some point, with her lover seems like an obvious thing to me.
You think giving your loving partner some oral service is bottom stuff? Smh
I don't think we need to go that far. She uses her ass largely because it's her only option for getting off while the cage is in place. Given she has a scene where she swaps using a dildo with you, I'd say it was never implausible she'd want to penetrate us. Even then, she trusts you enough to let you put the cage back on despite it being a central component of all the trauma she suffered at her big sister's hands. So I don't see what the big deal is.
I also have high confidence Ryn and even then I never felt like she expected my champion to bottom to her.
And if her love for us only entails if we bottom to her, then yeah, that seems pretty scummy from games side of things at least. Since what was all that lovely dovey stuff there for (taking her out for the dates, buying her a teddy bear, taking care of her urges)? Set dressing? Why would the penultimate decision only be left to that?
That makes her seem more judgmental than Arona.
Insert dick in vag/butt?
Yes/No?
She is not Brint "of the third leg", Evelyn Quinnsinus.
And you make it sound like Ryn does not enjoy to bottom to the champ; that she only did because of necessity. No, it was always established that she loved when champ, or anyone else for that matter, poked her butt. The recent buttslut mechanic even enforces it.
Which also makes it weird that there is no love confession that happens after champ probes her but one and one. Like, that seems way to exclusionary for no reason.
I am not a fan when a character that was appeerently designed with everyone in mind suddenly goes "I only care about dicks/butts in this specific scene."
And if her love for us only entails if we bottom to her, then yeah, that seems pretty scummy from games side of things at least. Since what was all that lovely dovey stuff there for (taking her out for the dates, buying her a teddy bear, taking care of her urges)? Set dressing? Why would the penultimate decision only be left to that?
That makes her seem more judgmental than Arona.
No. Does only giving her oral also unlock her confession scene?
Ryn never struck me as someone whose entire love confession would come down to:
Insert dick in vag/butt?
Yes/No?
She is not Brint "of the third leg", Evelyn Quinnsinus.
And you make it sound like Ryn does not enjoy to bottom to the champ; that she only did because of necessity. No, it was always established that she loved when champ, or anyone else for that matter, poked her butt. The recent buttslut mechanic even enforces it.
Which also makes it weird that there is no love confession that happens after champ probes her but one and one. Like, that seems way to exclusionary for no reason.
I am not a fan when a character that was appeerently designed with everyone in mind suddenly goes "I only care about dicks/butts in this specific scene."
Your comment only spoke about going down on her, so that's why I asked specifically.
Anyway, I don't believe the idea is that "if I can't dick your holes down I don't love you", it's more that this is quite literally The Turning Point, as far as her personal life goes. You're finally getting the cage off her, letting her be her complete self for the first time in such a long time. She's free of her domineering and cruel sister who controlled her in the worst ways possible, and she'd like, on this one single occasion at least, to be able to actually use the part of her that's been locked away.
Maybe it can be understood that the lovey dovey mood isn't quite there if you're not going to allow her that one little thing? Sometimes a confession needs the right situation for a person to do it, but that doesn't change the feelings someone has.
I never expected Ryn's love confession to unlock from that and I guess I'll never see it since I don't want to have dick inside of me.
This is sad, just like with Azzy came out of nowhere, never saw it coming and ends up adding a sour taste to the whole companion from then on, guess I'll just drop her a few ranks lower on my waifu list aswell.
This is sad, just like with Azzy came out of nowhere, never saw it coming and ends up adding a sour taste to the whole companion from then on, guess I'll just drop her a few ranks lower on my waifu list aswell.
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