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Teaming up with Cait to look for some prime grade A beef.
Oh yeah, Cait would be great for that kind of thing too, though I suspect it would inevitably turn into a threesome with her. Not that I'm saying that's a bad thing...

How about more roleplay but with Brint. Considering Brint has said he wants to buy the PC some outfits on the 'Date' option and Evelyn's maid roleplay. There's also Ryn's panty model scene.
Gimme the Brint roleplay.
'B-but master Brint, I just cleaned this room and if you fuck me it's going to get so filthy. Now let me just bend over and get this last spot and ohhhhhhh! <several minutes later> I'll clean that up master, I promise!'
 

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(it wouldn't work for Brienne obviously)
I've been wondering why Brienne had this change. Brint admitted he loved my champion but we both talked about our separate flings. Suddenly getting gender bent changes the opinion to wanting to be monogamous but only on her end?

I have this feeling that the curse affected her in a much more damaging way. At first I thought female minotaurs just had different reactions to their libido but what we've seen of other Bovines don't really add up...

Oh yeah, Cait would be great for that kind of thing too, though I suspect it would inevitably turn into a threesome with her. Not that I'm saying that's a bad thing...
Brint says a throw away line of them actually doing something when you ask him about his opinion on Cait.
 

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I've been wondering why Brienne had this change. Brint admitted he loved my champion but we both talked about our separate flings. Suddenly getting gender bent changes the opinion to wanting to be monogamous but only on her end?

I have this feeling that the curse affected her in a much more damaging way. At first I thought female minotaurs just had different reactions to their libido but what we've seen of other Bovines don't really add up...

Brint says a throw away line of them actually doing something when you ask him about his opinion on Cait.
We see other changes between Brint and Brienne as well - Brint thinks of Arona as being kind of a jerk but a fun bro, Brienne thinks she's an idiot and dangerously incompetent leader; Brint doesn't comment on you fucking Kasyrra at Winter City, Brienne gives you a bit of a talking to; Brint tops, Brienne bottoms; Brint is pretty stoic about his hometown, Brienne talks about how she broke her mother's heart by leaving.

As Brint, he comments that women in his society are a bit... docile? It's possible that the personality change is a result of Brienne getting doused in minotaur estrogen, making Brint a steady but aloof low-maintenance minotaur and Brienne a very attached and empathetic but still fairly low-maintenance cowgirl. Or, yeah, cursed genderbending armour could be a factor.
 

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I've been wondering why Brienne had this change. Brint admitted he loved my champion but we both talked about our separate flings. Suddenly getting gender bent changes the opinion to wanting to be monogamous but only on her end?
If I recall correctly Brint doesn't simply change genders he becomes a whole different person. So Brienne isn't female Brint she's her own person. Just because Brint was a fuckboy bro doesn't mean that will transfer to Breinne being a slut. Also it's probably weird to be talking about all the times you dicked down women when you're the one getting dicked down now idk
 

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Wsan has said that the armor and associated curse will get a lot more explanation during the course of Khor'minos' story, so that should also cover the personality changes that make Brienne more than just 'Genderbent Brint'.

Oh good, now I feel better about destroying the armor the first time back when I didn't even know what it would do.

It doesn't just genderbend you, it effectively kills the wearer's personality and overwrites it with a new one. Nice to see that there were absolutely terrible people around even before Kasyrra became involved.
 

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As for actual content I would like added: It's more of a mechanic.

I noticed that as the number of NPCs and companions at the Frost Hound increases the guest tab becomes kind of full. There are guests who stick around after they've worn out their welcome (mostly NPCs whose quests are done like Solveig) and those who pop in and out (goat girl and goblin clothier).

Maybe the menue should be split into guests and a separate tab for companions to de-clutter it a bit?
 
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We see other changes between Brint and Brienne as well - Brint thinks of Arona as being kind of a jerk but a fun bro, Brienne thinks she's an idiot and dangerously incompetent leader; Brint doesn't comment on you fucking Kasyrra at Winter City, Brienne gives you a bit of a talking to; Brint tops, Brienne bottoms; Brint is pretty stoic about his hometown, Brienne talks about how she broke her mother's heart by leaving.

As Brint, he comments that women in his society are a bit... docile? It's possible that the personality change is a result of Brienne getting doused in minotaur estrogen, making Brint a steady but aloof low-maintenance minotaur and Brienne a very attached and empathetic but still fairly low-maintenance cowgirl. Or, yeah, cursed genderbending armour could be a factor.
And one is OK with fucking their sister, other one is not.
But since we are on this topic, I do have to say, I do find it kind of a shame that armour does that kind of 180 on Brints personality. While I personally prefer Briennes relationship with the champion and her sexual content. Having it all come from the curse kind cheapens the whole gender bend aspect/fetish of it. Like, as everyone noted, the two bovines have such different relationship goals and characteristics that calling them related seems such a stretch. Brienne feels more like a late stage character select then anything.
But at same time, the writer probably does not want to get bogged down by ugly implications of being changed against your will. Physically and mentally. And as others noted, the curse is going to be explained sooner or later.

But since we are also on role play angle. I do wish we had more of it. Especially daddy/mommy role play . Not only with Brint, but with Brienne/Ryn as well . They would be into, especially Ryn going by her breast feeding scene. Or to have Lyric call us their Queen/King while we call them pet or something. Anything really.
 

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If your character has wings you could fly that will be sumthing cool to add in the game :p
Ditto. Fuck the harpies and their increase in dodge chance. I mean I still minmax to the point where it doesn't help them but still.

Also WolframL will probably pull a linked post out of thin air like he always does(I say this with love) but I think this will happen. There are several instances of high up ledges with most of them mentioning it would be easy to get there if you could fly.

Not sure why Harpy transformation wouldn't give it to us but seeing as there are more TFs for races that can fly, including a Valkyrie one, I'm sure we'll get it and my Lightning punch to the harpies will be less anime.
 

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With wayfort content coming up I hope to see a permanent alchemy table. Just somewhere to go do your crafts without having to start a new camp or pay ivris.

You don't pay Ivris for the privilege, you're literally using electrum coins as a component of the alchemical process. Reread her tutorial on the subject.

That said, adding an alchbench to the Wayfort is not a bad idea.
 
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Ditto. Fuck the harpies and their increase in dodge chance. I mean I still minmax to the point where it doesn't help them but still.

Also WolframL will probably pull a linked post out of thin air like he always does(I say this with love) but I think this will happen. There are several instances of high up ledges with most of them mentioning it would be easy to get there if you could fly.

Not sure why Harpy transformation wouldn't give it to us but seeing as there are more TFs for races that can fly, including a Valkyrie one, I'm sure we'll get it and my Lightning punch to the harpies will be less anime.
Yea fax because flying would be a cool thing to add in the game Without having to fly up ledges you could fly at will
 

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Nice to see that there were absolutely terrible people around even before Kasyrra became involved.
1: There was a lot of hubub in game about the Godswar and the Wraiths causing the collapse of many once-grand civilizations, and the title of Dark Knight is explicitly said to have belonged to those mortals who chose to join the Wraith's army as high-up warriors and commanders in exchange for power.
2: Fairly certain it's stated in-game that the armor was (probably) an old relic that was once used to turn marefolk men into marefolk women, since they've had to deal with the issue of the men goes feral once they reach adulthood for much longer than their potions and drinks have been around.
 

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Don't worry, Wolfram, I gotchu fam
Cheers! Did you just happen to have those on standby, I wonder? :D

Adding like a House a player can buy and can invite Females to his house
You do realize the Wayfort is A Thing, right? We're gonna be able to rebuild it and apparently do all sorts of things up there. No need for a house when you've got a swanky fortress in the making and (depending on how you go about it) potentially a throne too.

what link
He posted three of them, in direct response to you. I'm not sure how you missed it since the forum notifies you of direct replies.
 
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I'm fine with my fist of the north star take downs against flying enemies but wings being used for some ledges would be nice. One thing off the top of my head was in TiTs where there was a vertical cavern on the snow planet.

Options of going down were:
1. Buy climbing rope
2. Fly

I think there was an option to climb with stats but I don't remember 100% and don't want to accidentally say something untrue.

Also I don't think the devs will be able to avoid minmaxings regardless of utility TF or not ^^;

Ever since the creation of non-linear gameplay, players have always tried to figure out how to break the game in their favor. The infamous "stealth archer" of Skyrim comes to mind.
 

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Players finding ways to exploit the stats, perks and powers to (selectively) break the game is very different from CoC1 where you completely broke the game by taking certain TFs. Sure, some builds are extremely good right now but no one setup is going to excel in every situation. A Resolve-damage Charmer and Honey Maiden!Azzy may be able to lust-nuke most encounters but they're not terribly useful in the Catacombs or against Sigrune, for instance.

Also, the benefit of a game being in active development is that if some particularly broken setup does appear, it can be dealt with. We already got this with Mass Drain Vitality Reap being bumped from Lv4 to Lv6.

EDIT: Because I'm a derp who gets powers confused.
 
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Also I don't think the devs will be able to avoid minmaxings regardless of utility TF or not ^^;

Ever since the creation of non-linear gameplay, players have always tried to figure out how to break the game in their favor. The infamous "stealth archer" of Skyrim comes to mind.

I think that kind of presumes that min-maxing is a bad thing. It's a play-style which essentially requires some level of theory-crafting and meta-gaming, which defeats the purpose of just playing for fun. Should that result in it not being possible? Depends on the developers' wishes, as well as what you (the player) want to do.

Also, as WolframL pointed out, the CoC2 developers are developing the game in parallel with us playing the game (testing it), so that results in an entire community of people being able to provide feedback to the team (not to mention a community of people who are invested in the game).

This contrasts the way Bethesda developed Skyrim, which was released upon completion (and not patched / fine-tuned much), and was only tested by internal testers who probably did not have the same amount of raw numbers that this community does.
That and the Skyrim community found countless bugs / glitches in the game which the testing team seemingly missed, sort of emphasizing that people who are invested in the game (wanting to play for fun) are usually more thorough than those who have to do so for their job.

In reference to the above, it then indicates that if there were any instances of something being potentially "broken" or "OP" the CoC2 staff would have sufficient valuable feedback to sufficiently assess the situation, as well as already be developing instead of post-patching a completed game.

So, in conclusion, would it matter if there was a "stealth archer" Skyrim-esque character archetype in CoC2? That would depend on whether you wanted to play that way, and whether the development team felt it was alright to have such a viable build. As mentioned before, this comes down to the different styles of development between these two games.
 
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I think that kind of presumes that min-maxing is a bad thing.
I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was a bad thing.

However, there are those that do. I've met some people who are emotionally aggressive about the concept.

Personally I do it on instinct... not very well but I end up steamrolling things. My main is a warrior that wears the witch corset set + the sanctified gladius + a tower shield. Bullrush the top boss, lightning punch the person who didn't take damage from my companions and rend on turn 3 and then it's clean up from there. Every fight and so far the only time I have ever lost a battle was the ghost harem.

I've tried and wanted to use other sets and different spells but it didn't feel "right." I guess it's an attachment thing. Other characters I've experimented with more but never was able to change "Donut Steele" ... Except for the name, thank you River... lol
 
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I hope that this is not just teasing and that we are able to take advantage of her position. God that would be sweet. Maybe gives me reason to become her Lord. And make her my talking head in place of power.
 
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I'm fine with my fist of the north star take downs against flying enemies but wings being used for some ledges would be nice. One thing off the top of my head was in TiTs where there was a vertical cavern on the snow planet.

Options of going down were:
1. Buy climbing rope
2. Fly

I think there was an option to climb with stats but I don't remember 100% and don't want to accidentally say something untrue.

Also I don't think the devs will be able to avoid minmaxings regardless of utility TF or not ^^;

Ever since the creation of non-linear gameplay, players have always tried to figure out how to break the game in their favor. The infamous "stealth archer" of Skyrim comes to mind.
Haven't followed the discussion perfectly so I apologize in advance if I jump the gun, but there's a difference between "min maxing", the stealth archer example, breaking the game, and what appears to be the design goal. Generally it seems the approach design wise where say, you play a sword n board tank, and you want to be like a 2'4 lithe elf instead of like a 9ft orc who spends 619 in game days straight just sprinting at the gym while yelling "MUSCLE TIME", your elf would still be able to reach a point with appropriate gear to do the same tanking. Since all stats are being designed to help all classes even if situational, you CAN play a orc to max health, but another race might have a slight edge to magic defense, or armor and damage. Something like utility tfs would make stunt to by basically either making say, wings, a forced goal like terraria, or a forced choice, no matter what you want to be in game. Stealth archery in skyrim is also sorta a incorrect example imo for talking about that kind of thing, that's similar to "well dang mages get oil slick and aoe fire I mean c'mon games over", when realistically say, a giant can still whack you over the head. It's just a glorified archer doing archer things. A example of the *real* dangers of uncontrolled min maxing and tossing in stuff with additional game mechanics as a toybox design without care and balance is oblivion. Dunno if you played it, but late game archery on that? You could enchant bows, *and* arrows. Spend a ungodly amount of resources crafting a arrow with like a bajillion of each elemental damage, duplicate a 100 within 3 seconds, badabing. And that's the balanced option. You could have a single ring with 100% chameleon. The entire game becomes literally broken, nobody targets you, nobody tries to hit you, half the quests become broken because npcs can't find you to talk, and you can unequip everything and punch umbra to death while they make vague grunting noises. *That's* the issue needed to avoid. Corruption of champions also has a more forgiving ceiling and floor for builds, min maxers can crank up the difficulty and get a pretty good if somewhat safe challenge, while people wanting freedom can lower it and just kinda do whatever compared to trials in tainted space being pretty unforgiving with class and ability choices. That was probably too long a rant but trying to be more to the point, the goal is freedom and balance. Wings are cool but you either have anger at wings being required to not work for story purposes, like not being able to fly to volcano of evil metal circles, or they work good enough or are used enough where basically choices in the game become (Do you have wings? If yes, succeed, if no, fail), not counting rp purposes where maybe you want to be a lupine or humanoid but don't want to or be forced to have wings for a advantage, or writing where again it becomes either underused or overused. Also kinda creates a problem for erotic scenes, sure flying fun times become a possibility, but so does "as you rammed arona while making uncontrollable cawing noises, cait hugged you from behind, at first trying to sensually push against you before choking on feathers, before a stray wingflap slammed her against the wall"