Your gripes with CoC II

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WolframL

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Since the April Fools scene came up a while back in a similar context, it bears pointing out that whichever path you go down, the event canonically does not happen. Assuming you have not done something completely avoidable* prior to it procing, you can see either version of the scene, check the character descriptions before and after and see that the Champion or Cait still has their buttginity intact.

* IE, don't jump on any dicks or lose to the very small number of encounters that will go after Cait's ass.
 

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In the tutorial, there is this one line: "Tutorial: In addition to Health and Resolve, your character has a green Experience bar next to his or her Resolve meter, and a Threat Gem in the upper right corner of the character card."
Why not just say "(...) green Experience bar next to their Resolve meter (...)"

Because that's incorrect English.

But thanks for pointing out the tutorial text bit. It's SUPPOSED to be ALL BOLD. I'll bug the coders about that.
 

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Because that's incorrect English.

But thanks for pointing out the tutorial text bit. It's SUPPOSED to be ALL BOLD. I'll bug the coders about that.
It is? I will trust you on it then. There must be a better way to refer to "his or her", though.

Welcome!

The "follow the light" scene is an April Fool's joke. However, there is always(1) a way to avoid getting sexed. The way for you to "fight back" is...not follow the light.

Since the April Fools scene came up a while back in a similar context, it bears pointing out that whichever path you go down, the event canonically does not happen. Assuming you have not done something completely avoidable* prior to it procing, you can see either version of the scene, check the character descriptions before and after and see that the Champion or Cait still has their buttginity intact.

* IE, don't jump on any dicks or lose to the very small number of encounters that will go after Cait's ass.

Oh, it must be part of the new update that allows the activation of seasonal events (which I totally love by the way, thanks a lot!). My suggestion, then, since this is a "joke" event, would be adding a small "warning" like akin to the likes of "you can't help but feel that, if you were to follow this mysterious light, something will happen to your asshole. You are just not sure what." Or something like that, I dunno! I just like being warned.


If by "the witch [...] in the forest" you mean Viviane, she doesn't auto-fuck you in the waking world. She auto-fucks you in your dreams. But it's just a dream. There are a lot of smutty dreams in this game.

(1) = Except during HiveQuest, but that whole quest is optional, so. Also, it's a fun sex scene and hornet ladies are sweeties.

Yeah it was those! I think I faintly remember in old versions that there was an "orgasm" stat? I do not remember. I will play a bit more and comment on here if I find Vivian again.
I am doing some runs: First run is puritan Dark mode, second is sexual Dark mode and third will be corrupt Dark mode.
 

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Here is another gripe and pet-peeve.
That "woman" button. What does it mean? Shouldn't read something else? Shouldn't it read "Approach"? Why does it just say "Woman"? How do I "woman"?
 

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Here is another gripe and pet-peeve.
That "woman" button. What does it mean? Shouldn't read something else? Shouldn't it read "Approach"? Why does it just say "Woman"? How do I "woman"?
Is there a tool-tip that describes it when you hover over the button? If yes, then it doesn't really matter if it says "woman" or "approach." Besides, not every button is a verb. There's appearance buttons and buttons that say "Brint" or "Cait" or "companions" or "Garth." Some buttons are verbs, but plenty are nouns.
 

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Is there a tool-tip that describes it when you hover over the button? If yes, then it doesn't really matter if it says "woman" or "approach." Besides, not every button is a verb. There's appearance buttons and buttons that say "Brint" or "Cait" or "companions" or "Garth." Some buttons are verbs, but plenty are nouns.
Nope. There is no tooltip either in there. You can infer what it does because the other option has a tooltip.
But it is strange that this button only reads "woman", with no tooltip and no context at all.
 

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The fact that you gotta have a party in the early game if you wanna make progress.
 

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The fact that you gotta have a party in the early game if you wanna make progress.
"early game"
Pretty much all throughout the game, you need a party for mostly everything, unless you go back to early game areas/fights with a much higher level. This party focus annoyed me a lot when I first began to play CoC2, but I've long since gotten used to the fact that this game is built around you having a party, because the Champion, despite being the most important member of the party in terms of combat and choices, is not a super-person like the champion of CoC or Steele in TiTS.
 

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The fact that you gotta have a party in the early game if you wanna make progress.
Not early game, the entire game is built around having a party.
You COULD solo everything, just don't expect it to be easy or for the devs to not make it difficult.
 

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OK, here is a massive gripe... Alraune's end.

When you defeat her, there are only two options: You make her your slave (And must have sex with her) OR you kill her. No inbetween.
-There is no way to spare her without sex.
-Making her "your slave" does not increase corruption in any noticeable way (when in fact it should. She is a trainted being).

I would appreciate if there was a way to spare, and then ignore her. As well as more mention onto the corruption fact.
 
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You COULD solo everything, just don't expect it to be easy or for the devs to not make it difficult.

Some dude on Discord just finished a solo virgin run all the way through Winter City, so props to that guy.

I would appreciate if there was a way to spare, and then ignore her.

No.
 
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I mean, you CAN spare the Alraune and then ignore her. Just dominate her and then don't ever interact with her again.
 

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... He just said "No." That's not aggressive, that's just short and to the point.
I explained it in another thread, but I still think we should have a talk before just saying no.

I don't see why we HAVE to have sex with Alraune to spare her, thought. Can't we have another option to just be a purist pacifist alongside the others we have? There is only "spare and fuck" or "kill". No inbetween. Also another fun option would be "fuck and kill". An extreme backstab for Alraune, to show her that there is no Queen or King to live for.

Also, isn't she corrupted? Shouldn't sex with her give off corruption? The corruption gains in CoC 2 are meager and very, VERY far inbetween. It honestly seems like you will never gain corruption unless you go out of your way to do it.
 
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I've had that talk like 10 times already.
But you don't expect me to know that, do you? I searched for questions and other posts relatings my suggestion, and so far I have found no one talking about the "spare and sex" thing at all, they are only discussing about possible story consecuences, which isn't related to my post at all (Sparing without sex at that moment would be the same as sparing with sex, except that you would get to keep your virginity and not kill her). I don't see why there is no third option for sparing without sex, and just giving her a harsh warning.
(And I am also really, really liking the idea of fucking Alraune and then killing her for massive corruption gains)

Maybe I will make a thread and see what others think then. I still think more options = Better.
 

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If you want to waste your time, go ahead. I said "No" and I meant "No." In case that's not clear, let me repeat myself: It's not happening, ever.

Is it there any particular reason why this is a hard no? I don't think it would change the interactions much.
 

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Is it there any particular reason why this is a hard no? I don't think it would change the interactions much.
Dude, you keep pushing after being told no a dozen times in both threads. One would think you'd get the memo by now.
Savin's being "harsh" because you won't drop it and if this WAS brought up before, it was more than likely in Discord anyways, so you not seeing anything on this doesn't mean nobody at all asked. You're just not looking elsewhere in the Fengame community.

Just fuck the plant girl in the initial scene and never touch her again afterwards. The only real "issue" (If you can call it that) I can see is that virgin runners who have qualms about killing can't get past her without sexing without also putting a deathcount in their file, but virgin runs are pretty dumb in a game like this anyhow.
 

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Dude, you keep pushing after being told no a dozen times in both threads. One would think you'd get the memo by now.
Savin's being "harsh" because you won't drop it and if this WAS brought up before, it was more than likely in Discord anyways, so you not seeing anything on this doesn't mean nobody at all asked. You're just not looking elsewhere in the Fengame community.

Just fuck the plant girl in the initial scene and never touch her again afterwards. The only real "issue" (If you can call it that) I can see is that virgin runners who have qualms about killing can't get past her without sexing without also putting a deathcount in their file, but virgin runs are pretty dumb in a game like this anyhow.

I just wanted to know why because this one does not seem like an unreasonable suggestion. Why is it such a hot button.
 
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The only real "issue" (If you can call it that) I can see is that virgin runners who have qualms about killing can't get past her without sexing without also putting a deathcount in their file, but virgin runs are pretty dumb in a game like this anyhow.
I actually checked that because I am doing virgin runs for two of my champions (one's saving herself for Ryn, the other is waiting to see if any Carmen content plays on it) and while breeding her counts as sex for virginity purposes, taking her tentacles in whatever hole is available does not as far as the game is concerned. So you can dominate the Alraune and still do a virgin run if that's your thing.
 

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I am mostly wondering why we cannot spare her without sex. Why the spare option must include sex, and why sex is not just an added bonus.
Instead of the two options we have, we could have one more of simply sparing her, and walking away. She will still treat you as if you were the "dominant", but you will not have the sex encounter with her (I faintly recall you could do that with Izma in CoC I, you could be her Alpha without having sex with her at all).
It's just one small little thing. Like, it's okay if it isn't implemented lol, but I just don't get why it is such a hard no unless I misrepresented something or couldn't explain myself well.

I actually checked that because I am doing virgin runs for two of my champions (one's saving herself for Ryn, the other is waiting to see if any Carmen content plays on it) and while breeding her counts as sex for virginity purposes, taking her tentacles in whatever hole is available does not as far as the game is concerned. So you can dominate the Alraune and still do a virgin run if that's your thing.

Well, I mean, if we are finnicky there are lots of ways to get around the whole "virginity" clause, haha. That's why giving handjobs and orals is the best. But that's not really my point.
 

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Somehow I think the horse has been beat to paste.

FWIW I had an issue with with something specific and learned to rewrite some text so I didn't have to see it rather than natter about it.

Anyhow, current gripe is a small writing one, we should be able to talk to Garth before mashing the uglies with Gwyn. Maybe have him be in a better or worse mood depending on
If you've saved Garret or gotten the medallion.
 
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Would it be possible to have it so say the third time you explore a tile, after you have found all the pathways, that it can be marked as fully explored?
Maybe give it a bolder boarder or something?

So you retain the exploration mechanic without losing too much time in dead ends.
 
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Would it be possible to have it so say the third time you explore a tile, after you have found all the pathways, that it can be marked as fully explored?
Maybe give it a bolder boarder or something?

So you retain the exploration mechanic without losing too much time in dead ends.
I spent two ingame days exploring the area north of the centaur village because I was too dumb to fully read the flavor text, that the bridge was up. maybe give that "you've explored everything here" some bold text to idiotproof it :V
 

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It shouldn't take more than five to unlock a linked tile as I believe there was a cap on the rng for exploring before an unlock is guaranteed. Remember the rule of five. If you explore more than five times and get nothing, that tile is done.
 

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I would very likely be skipping the tutorial every time, just like I do in TiTS, but I can't. Not literally can't, there is a skip tutorial button, but if you go through the tutorial and beat each of the fights, you get two potions (one of which is technically unique, though it's essentially just a blue egg with a turgid infusion) which allow you to turn any character into a hermaphrodite, which is useful because I almost always do, and it gives you the Blade Staff, which is unironically in my opinion one of the best pieces of spellcaster equipment available to you primarily because you get it so early and it has the stats which it does. It is better for split-casters, of course, as it has better melee damage than most staves, and the other two catalysts which are built for a split fighter have much weaker penetration and power in exchange for their higher melee damage. It's also a direct upgrade to the quarterstaff even for pure casters due to catalyst equipment giving their crit to the spells which are cast.

Basically my gripe is that I can't get the Bladed Staff and the two early transformatives (Along with the other item drops from battles) without playing through the tutorial dungeon again, since skipping the tutorial does not give you any items, only Electrum.
 

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I mean, if you don't want to do the work to actually beat Tollus (since you can lose and the story still progresses) you shouldn't expect the game to give you his stabby staff for free...
 
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