Your gripes with CoC II

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Savin

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Are areas much bigger than how we see from the map?

Yes. The Winter City and Hawkethorne are many miles apart, far enough so that you're going from an alpine area to somewhere with fjords and the southern tip of a glacier.

Foot travel taking a long-ass time is 100% intended, as it's the only real way to give the map any sense of scale. If anything, it should probably be more time consuming.
 
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kiby

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Are areas much bigger than how we see from the map?

The open areas are very large, much larger than the towns/camps. You are traveling across miles and miles and kilometers and etc when crossing the southern plains, for example. It's a huge expanse of hilly grassland and farms.
 

Tide Hunter

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I feel like the Waystone in the Foothills is too close to the entrance from Hawkethorne. Like, it's probably intended for the Orcish Warband's camp, but otherwise every other thing in the foothills takes roughly the same time to reach in terms of tiles as if you just left from the gates (minus the two tiles which are immune to random encounters). Except maybe for Shar's tower, but even so that one's not much of a difference. If you're not going to the warband, there's very little reason not to just leave from the Hawkthorne gates. And also, every Waystone except for this one has its entrances and exits located inside of a civilization type location. Hawkethorne, the Wayfort (In terms of tile configuration), the Marefolk Village, the Winter City, and the Den. The Foothills Waystone is the only one not located inside of a location considered civilized in terms of tile configuration, which I assume is mostly because it's possible to just straight up not be able to access the Warband camp and you'd need to farm Arona to do it anyways so having the Waystone allows for convenient access to the camp without needing to unlock it first (as otherwise, you may end up with a waystone that you literally can never have). So really, what I want is for the Foothills Waystone to be moved one tile to the right, so it's closer to the Camp entrance, just that that it can feel like the other waystones do.
 

TheHiddenOne

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Honestly, the stone in the Foothills is my favorite, placement wise.

While the others are at the end of maps, this one is pretty central, which means you can use it to reach every place there quicker.
Instead of the others, which basically jsut jump you to the end of the area (or in the case of the one in the Fort, to the beginning of the next area).
 

coldmonkey

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Please let my male orc have a threesome with Cait and Brint without first taking a minotaur dick up the ass, please. They just want to share a catgirl, not fuck each other.
 
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Violyn

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Foot travel taking a long-ass time is 100% intended, as it's the only real way to give the map any sense of scale. If anything, it should probably be more time consuming.
My first impression when i noticed that so much time passes when going from tile to tile when outside was of wonder and happiness. Gives a lot of room for imagination, both for imagining the whole area and roleplay purposes. I fully support the idea of making it so it takes even longer, timewise, to travel between places. I absolutely fucking love that idea.

I love the ideia of taking a long time, even days, to get from one place to another.
 
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Wsan

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Please let my male orc have a threesome with Cait and Brint without first taking a minotaur dick up the ass, please. They just want to share a catgirl, not fuck each another.
Eight ball says ask again later. When I wrote the scenes I had no idea straight players would like Brint enough to do this, but over time it's become obvious that they do. I'll get around to it whenever I'm adding more Brint threesomes.
 

Zandar

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In all fairness, it is definitely a minority opinion that someone has a VERY strong desire to engage in a Man-Woman-Man threesome while also being so strongly against engaging sexually with the man.

The desire to have a threesome which involves you and someone else penetrating a woman while having no physical interaction with the other penetrator is not a strange thing, especially considering this community, but it is something that very a very small amount of people share. Hence why the people who have been writing for these games for years don't cater to it, if they even consider it.
 

coldmonkey

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Eight ball says ask again later. When I wrote the scenes I had no idea straight players would like Brint enough to do this, but over time it's become obvious that they do. I'll get around to it whenever I'm adding more Brint threesomes.
Awesome. It was the Elthara threesome that made me think of it. Brint's a bro, and it's fun to share things with your bros.
 

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So after hearing what effects the Kitsune have had on Winter City and how they helped the decline of the Boreal Elves it would be nice if your character had the option to address the fact that the Kitsune are an invasive species at worst or invading imperialistic colonizers at best. And that's not even touching the fact they're all low-key vampiric monsters.

Unfortunately I don't see a way that the champion could deal with them that doesn't involve a weak "I'm watching you" or just straight up locking them out of the Kitsune Den. Which would be unfortunate since as of right now they have a lot of the best gear being held "random" by their merchant.

Extreme view champion: "Hey Kitsune, I've seen what you have been up to and got to say, not a fan." "Go back home and I'll burn your little tree house down."
Komari: "Don't you mean or?"
Champion: "Did I stutter?"

But seriously it would be nice if the Kitsune actually helped the Frost Marches instead of just being a burden and therefore helping Kyssara/the Wraiths
 
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The Observer

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the Kitsune are an invasive species at worst or invading imperialistic colonizers at best. And that's not even touching the fact they're all low-key vampiric monsters.

Glad someone finally noticed.

It's like how in the wake of a complete and utter war that left the majority of the world in tatters, the singular nation that was left relatively unscathed because it was separated from much of the conflict by wide expanses of ocean is abusing its intact position to firmly cement its position as a world hegemon by taking advantage of everyone else's weakness, including setting up military bases in their satrapies all over the world for their own protection, you see --

-- Oh, wait. After the mixture of gunboat diplomacy, nearly becoming a satrapy oneself and seeing what happened to not-China in the opening years of the hundred years of humiliation, not-Japan is certainly open about what they're doing now.
 
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Alypia

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Glad someone finally noticed.
Hey! It is pretty cool for new players to notice it, but grognards didn't have a chance to dope it out because you told everybody outright on these very message boards before Floofhaus even dropped. :p

I'm still a fan of making people actually think about what their characters are doing in the porn game, fwiw...and of the clever use of postcolonial ideas.
 
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I'm still a fan of making people actually think about what their characters are doing in the porn game, fwiw...and of the clever use of postcolonial ideas.
Boo!! Who cares if Junior gets into college, just fuck already!!
 

Merc4food

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I was fine with the colonizers until Hethia explains the reason the Druids are losing their powers is due to the loss of the "local gods" so to speak. Something that the Kitsune (Miko, Mai or Komari) talked about was getting all the local gods to their side over the last 200 years.
Now I'm imagining a DnD game were the divine casters can't prepare spells in certain regions because all the gods are bribed/captured.
So when do we get to find out the Kitsune are descended from Wraiths? would explain their "hunger".
 
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WolframL

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So when do we get to find out the Kitsune are descended from Wraiths? would explain their "hunger".
That would be very difficult since they were around long before the 'oops' moment that brought the Wraiths to Savarra in the first place. The Observer wrote a bit about the Old Country's history here which makes this really clear.
 

Merc4food

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That would be very difficult since they were around long before the 'oops' moment that brought the Wraiths to Savarra in the first place. The Observer wrote a bit about the Old Country's history here which makes this really clear.
Gods War was just the LAST major wraith incursion, but legends of them already existed so there must have been contact of some kind before that.
 

Throg

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Etheryn can take Hashat but not the Champions mighty dingdong? ಥ ͜ʖಥ my delicate sensibilties are so offended (not actually)

Also, size content. Some characters, it's hard to get a grip on how tall they are, as it's not specified and/or they're written as if they're shorter/taller than the champion (Shar and Kiyoko always seem to be written smaller, Etheryn is written almost like she's fairly tiny, but [her wiki] says she's 5'7", Cait is written like she's shorter, even if she is taller [her height is mentioned in her appearance]- Hashat is always written like she's taller- I'm sure there's others, but my memory ain't so good). Point is, I get confused as to whether my guy has his nose in someone's tits or their hair when he goes in for that most lewd of actions, the hug. Definitely a gripe and not a major issue.
 

Malpha

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that masturbation makes you go to sleep until the next day, cmon how am I supposed to keep the milk going without Brint around and be able to do stuff on my days?
Give Cait milky tits and do milky 69's for great justice.
 

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