CoC: Unofficially Expanded Edition (v1.4.19 for CoC 1.0.2)

Sanguinis

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Stat cap increases by 25 every new game + up to four for a total increased cap of 100.  Not sure to the extent different races raise or lower the caps though.
 

Kharn

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Forgot to mention that this was on the same playthrough. I haven't tried the other races though to compare. Also funny to note I keep Dragon's Breath even after going from full dragon-morph to another race so I have Dragon Breath and Akbal's fire breath.
 

Jiffler

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Where are mimics? Don't think I found any yet.

They are the giant penis, giant boob and magic rock you encounter. they wont fight you unless you have slow/medium speed, from my experience.

Forgot to mention that this was on the same playthrough. I haven't tried the other races though to compare. Also funny to note I keep Dragon's Breath even after going from full dragon-morph to another race so I have Dragon Breath and Akbal's fire breath.

Lol, yeah, you don't have to stay a dragon-morph to have that perk. Some skill perks are race/body part specific specific. For example, the Fox Fire perk requires you to at least have your 9 fox tails so that you can keep the Compound Perk "Enlightened Nine-Tails", which increases Spell Effect Multiplier, reduces fatigue cost of casting spells, grants faster recovery from spell casting, grants the blue fox fire, and allows the use of the illusion magic skill, which, personally speaking, is better under the "Corrupted Nine-Tails" which you can get  from consuming a mystic jewel multiple times w/corruption at a minimum of 30. I say its better corrupted because it will also do physical damage to foes.


Edit: The corrupted illusion perk is called terror, just remembered it.

What is your character? And how tall us he?

In game, he's a dog-morph. By my classification, he's a Lycan-Drake (Wolf-Dragon crossbreed, so sort of like a furry Kobold, I guess). I fixed his height recently, so he's 6 foot 6
 
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Jiffler

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Stat cap increases by 25 every new game + up to four for a total increased cap of 100.  Not sure to the extent different races raise or lower the caps though.

I think base stat cap stops at 200 after NG+4, since I'm on NG+5 right now and My current character (Look at profile picture) has max stats at STR 205 TOU 210 SPE 210 INT 200. But yeah, combining physical attributes of 2 species generally increases the cap rate of 2 or 3 stats, but can also decrease 1 or 2. for example, my character is a dog morph, so speed gets a 10 pt. cap increase, but at the cost of pulling that from intelligence, so I would have 10 less points in the INT cap. However, because I also have dragon body parts, I don't suffer from any stat loss, but I have a 5 point cap increase to STR and a 10 point increase to TOU, leaving INT neutral. 
 

Sanguinis

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I think base stat cap stops at 200 after NG+4, since I'm on NG+5 right now and My current character (Look at profile picture) has max stats at STR 205 TOU 210 SPE 210 INT 200. But yeah, combining physical attributes of 2 species generally increases the cap rate of 2 or 3 stats, but can also decrease 1 or 2. for example, my character is a dog morph, so speed gets a 10 pt. cap increase, but at the cost of pulling that from intelligence, so I would have 10 less points in the INT cap. However, because I also have dragon body parts, I don't suffer from any stat loss, but I have a 5 point cap increase to STR and a 10 point increase to TOU, leaving INT neutral. 

Didn't word that clearly enough I guess, but that was what I meant, that the bonus would cap at an increase of 100.
 

Jiffler

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I think base stat cap stops at 200 after NG+4, since I'm on NG+5 right now and My current character (Look at profile picture) has max stats at STR 205 TOU 210 SPD 210 INT 200. But yeah, combining physical attributes of 2 species generally increases the cap rate of 2 or 3 stats, but can also decrease 1 or 2. for example, my character is a dog morph, so speed gets a 10 pt. cap increase, but at the cost of pulling that from intelligence, so I would have 10 less points in the INT cap. However, because I also have dragon body parts, I don't suffer from any stat loss, but I have a 5 point cap increase to STR and a 10 point increase to TOU, leaving INT neutral. 
Didn't word that clearly enough I guess, but that was what I meant, that the bonus would cap at an increase of 100.

It's cool. :)


BTW, I just did some species crossing for stats/skills, and HOT DAMN...


So, basically, dragon parts are a saving grace for INT and occasionally SPD, but help in abundance towards STR and TOU crossing body parts with Minotaur parts. This is what I look like to get STR+25 and TOU+20, with SPD and INT neutral, thanks to draconic body parts;


You are a 9 foot 0 inch tall male minotaur-morph, with an extremely thickset frame and so much muscle others would find you harder to move than a huge boulder. You are currently wearing your green adventurer’s clothes and dragonscale loincloth and using your inscribed spellblade as a weapon. Girding one of your fingers is ring of power.  Under your thick, midnight black fur you have a human-shaped head with gray skin. A set of razor-sharp, retractable shark-teeth fill your mouth and gives your visage a slightly angular appearance. It has a square chin and chiseled jawline. The shoulder-length, silver mane on your head is parted by a pair of rounded cow ears that stick out sideways. Your mouth contains a thick, fleshy tongue that, if you so desire, can telescope to a distance of about four feet. It has sufficient manual dexterity that you can use it almost like a third arm. Two very large and dangerous looking horns sprout from your head, curving forward and over a foot long. They have dangerous looking points.


You have a humanoid shape with the usual torso, arms, hands, and fingers. Magnificent wings sprout from your shoulders. When unfurled they stretch further than your arm span, and a single beat of them is all you need to set out toward the sky. They look a bit like bat’s wings, but the membranes are covered in fine, delicate scales and a wicked talon juts from the end of each bone. You have well-formed hips that blend into your pillar-like waist, and your nice toned butt contracts with every motion, displaying the detailed curves of its lean musculature. A thin, scaly, prehensile reptilian tail, almost as long as you are tall, swings behind you like a living bullwhip. Its tip menaces with spikes of bone, meant to deliver painful blows. Two human-like legs grow down from your pleasant thighs, sheathed in scales and ending in clawed feet. There are three long toes on the front, and a small hind-claw on the back.
 
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Jiffler

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BTW, I just did some species crossing for stats/skills, and HOT DAMN...


So, basically, dragon parts are a saving grace for INT and occasionally SPD, but help in abundance towards STR and TOU crossing body parts with Minotaur parts. This is what I look like to get STR+25 and TOU+20, with SPD and INT neutral, thanks to draconic body parts

Lol, being a Bunny-Taur gives you +30 on the speed cap...


What are these stats mang...
 
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Etis

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It's cool. :)


BTW, I just did some species crossing for stats/skills, and HOT DAMN...

Yes, it is quite fun thing to fiddle with stat-affecting things :) One thing CoC is much better is how you can shape your character.


Level 12 kitsune battlemage character, 121 str, 146 tou, 115 spd, 120 int in combat, 85/110/115/120 out of combat.

You are a 3 foot 8 inch tall hermaphrodite kitsune, with a somewhat lithe body and a fair amount of definition. You are currently wearing your black leather armor surrounded by voluminous robes and using your wizard’s staff as a weapon. Girding one of your fingers is ring of life.  You have a tapered, shrewd-looking vulpine face with a speckling of downward-curved whiskers just behind the nose. A coat of silver blonde fur decorates your muzzle. It has an androgynous set of features that would look normal on a male or female. The obscenely long, silver blonde tentacle-hair atop your head is parted by a pair of large, adept fox ears that always seem to be listening. Your mouth contains a thick, fleshy tongue that, if you so desire, can telescope to a distance of about four feet. It has sufficient manual dexterity that you can use it almost like a third arm. A pair of eight inch horns grow from the sides of your head, sweeping backwards and adding to your imposing visage.


You have a humanoid shape with the usual torso, arms, hands, and fingers. Magnificent wings sprout from your shoulders. When unfurled they stretch further than your arm span, and a single beat of them is all you need to set out toward the sky. They look a bit like bat’s wings, but the membranes are covered in fine, delicate scales and a wicked talon juts from the end of each bone. You have flared thighs that sway to and fro, emphasized by your trim body, and your muscular, toned bottom molds closely against your form. Nine swishing silver blonde fox’s tails extend from your muscular, toned ass, curling around your body - the soft fur feels lovely. Your two legs are crooked into high knees with hocks and long feet, like those of a fox; cute bulbous toes decorate the ends.
 

Jiffler

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Yes, it is quite fun thing to fiddle with stat-affecting things :) One thing CoC is much better is how you can shape your character.


Level 12 kitsune battlemage character, 121 str, 146 tou, 115 spd, 120 int in combat, 85/110/115/120 out of combat.

Ur a cute little thing, aint'cha? :D
 
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hypnosmythos

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Where are mimics? Don't think I found any yet.


Edit: Never noticed til now that your race changes your stat caps.

They appear as random chests sitting alone that you come across while exploring or visiting an area. They also appear as giant breasts or genitals. 

I must have missed them, where do you find mimics in this game?


Edit: Never mind, found it.


Edit2: Actually the game still seems to be locking up when you lose to one, at least for me.

Yeah. I've tested this one a number of times with one character. Every time my female character loses to one in a fight the game freezes BEFORE the sex scene loads. So right after the loss, when you are supposed to select the button that (i think) says "next". Selecting that button should start the next scene but the button is either non-responsive or sends you right back to that same page. Because there's no way to "Esc" out or pull up a menu while in game, it effectively locks up the game and requires that you either reload the game or close the browser (I'm playing the game in my Chrome browser). 


So far I'm just avoiding them, but it's an odd bug. 
 

PrinnyDoodman

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So is it supposed to describe my character as lactating if masturbating with D or higher cup breasts (despite having no milk at all)?


"Thin squirts of milk spray from each nipple, spattering milk onto your legs and crotch."


I tested this with a completely fresh character and it still displays this line.
 
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Jiffler

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So is it supposed to describe my character as lactating if masturbating with D or higher cup breasts (despite having no milk at all)?


"Thin squirts of milk spray from each nipple, spattering milk onto your legs and crotch."


I tested this with a completely fresh character and it still displays this line.

I think that's just a written in scene, whether female/herm/dick-girl-males have lactating breasts or not...
 

Akujimalice

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do you need to be in newgame+ to get the benefits of race?  I've got several racial traits and it doesn't seem to affect me in standared NG nonplus 

 


You are a 4 foot 2 inch tall hermaphrodite human, with an average frame and soft, untoned flesh with a tendency for jiggle. You are currently wearing your inquisitor’s corset and using your vulpine rapier as a weapon. Your face is human in shape and structure, with aphotic blue-black skin. It has a beautiful, feminine shapeliness that’s sure to draw the attention of males. Your flowing locks of white hair looks good on you, accentuating your features well.


You have a humanoid shape with the usual torso, arms, hands, and fingers. You have well-formed thighs, and your soft, squeezable bottom has the barest amount of sexy jiggle. A thin, scaly, prehensile reptilian tail, almost as long as you are tall, swings behind you like a living bullwhip. Its tip menaces with spikes of bone, meant to deliver painful blows. Two normal human legs grow down from your waist, ending in normal human feet.
Your stomach is painfully distended by your pregnancy, making it difficult to walk normally.


You have two perky breasts, each supporting one 0.7-inch sable nipple. You could easily fill a B-cup bra.


Your long, dragon-like dick is 7.3 inches long and 0.8 inches thick. With its tapered tip, there are few holes you wouldn’t be able to get into. It has a strange, knot-like bulb at its base, but doesn’t usually flare during arousal as a dog’s knot would.
 
 

Jiffler

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do you need to be in newgame+ to get the benefits of race?  I've got several racial traits and it doesn't seem to affect me in standared NG nonplus 

 


You are a 4 foot 2 inch tall hermaphrodite human, with an average frame and soft, untoned flesh with a tendency for jiggle. You are currently wearing your inquisitor’s corset and using your vulpine rapier as a weapon. Your face is human in shape and structure, with aphotic blue-black skin. It has a beautiful, feminine shapeliness that’s sure to draw the attention of males. Your flowing locks of white hair looks good on you, accentuating your features well.


You have a humanoid shape with the usual torso, arms, hands, and fingers. You have well-formed thighs, and your soft, squeezable bottom has the barest amount of sexy jiggle. A thin, scaly, prehensile reptilian tail, almost as long as you are tall, swings behind you like a living bullwhip. Its tip menaces with spikes of bone, meant to deliver painful blows. Two normal human legs grow down from your waist, ending in normal human feet.
Your stomach is painfully distended by your pregnancy, making it difficult to walk normally.


You have two perky breasts, each supporting one 0.7-inch sable nipple. You could easily fill a B-cup bra.


Your long, dragon-like dick is 7.3 inches long and 0.8 inches thick. With its tapered tip, there are few holes you wouldn’t be able to get into. It has a strange, knot-like bulb at its base, but doesn’t usually flare during arousal as a dog’s knot would.
 

From what I've just read, you don't have enough physical transformations to be considered a morph, you only have a tail and a non-human penis. You need a morph score of 4 or higher in your desired species in order to get any species stats.
 

Akujimalice

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From what I've just read, you don't have enough physical transformations to be considered a morph, you only have a tail and a non-human penis. You need a morph score of 4 or higher in your desired species in order to get any species stats.

I've got the dragonfire so I definitely have a morph score over 4 for dragon. I can't be sure for the dog but I believe I've had that without bonuses as well. One moment. I'll do some testing. edit: I stand corrected. when it classifies me as a dragon morph I get the bonuses.  either your score is off or the site is off for what you need to get dragonbreath because I have one but didn't get the other until just now.
 
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Jiffler

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I've got the dragonfire so I definitely have a morph score over 4 for dragon. I can't be sure for the dog but I believe I've had that without bonuses as well. One moment. I'll do some testing. edit: I stand corrected. when it classifies me as a dragon morph I get the bonuses.  either your score is off or the site is off for what you need to get dragonbreath because I have one but didn't get the other until just now.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaait a second...


Are you trying to be a dragon or are you trying to be like me?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                  


Also, I forgot to mention that apparently you can have a knotted horse dick in this game w/o having a coerl cock (gained from Greta's Garbs in Bizarre Bazar)
 
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Akujimalice

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Waaaaaaaaaaaaait a second...


Are you trying to be a dragon or are you trying to be like me?

xD I just happened to HAVE those flowers on hand. I decided to test and scarfed down a bunch and got my score up then reset because draconic isn't where I want to go. I stopped in for the dragonfire and a tail I'm still debating if I'll keep it because of the bony bits. at the moment I'm just working on killing lethice, not even terribly concerned with my looks.
 

Jiffler

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xD I just happened to HAVE those flowers on hand. I decided to test and scarfed down a bunch and got my score up then reset because draconic isn't where I want to go. I stopped in for the dragonfire and a tail I'm still debating if I'll keep it because of the bony bits. at the moment I'm just working on killing lethice, not even terribly concerned with my looks.

Lol, aight :D


BTW, you can try these on for size if you want; I discovered the stats for both Lago-Drake (Bunny/Dragon-Morph) has STR+5 TOU+10 SPD+10 INT+10. You'll have Tail Whip and Kick and Mino-Drake STR+25 and TOU+20, with SPD and INT neutral. You can look further back in the comments to see what the physical requirements for that are (mind you that I also made my face to have shark teeth, so I had Bite, Gore and Tail Whip).
 

Jiffler

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It's so funny how Dragon-based hybrids and Centaur-Based Hybrids can make some of the best stat combos. Thus far, Mino-Drake is the strongest drabon-based hybrid, with STR+25 and TOU+20, followed by Rhino-Drake with STR+20 TOU+25 SPD-10 INT-10 (INT stat loss can be neutralized if you have dragon feet). FYI, Rhino-Drake is kind of the female/herm alternate to the Minotaur , since trying to me a minotaur-morph w/o a mino-face is flawed, and having a vagina kills that strength boost, which is a little dumb but oh well...


For Centaur-based hybrids, Lago-taur is the fastest with SPD+30.


So yeah...
 

Jayk

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What are the possible stat bonuses for all races? Listing them here would be a bit much, basically where do you find this info?
 

Jiffler

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So just Daconic stats or no stats at all?

No, you can have other species stats, it's just the fact that dragon-morph stats has the most flexibility for other species of you want that added strength boost or don't want to lose intelligence from species like Minotaur, Rhino, Dog, etc.

What are the possible stat bonuses for all races? Listing them here would be a bit much, basically where do you find this info?

I just do my own experimentation to figure that out, since I don't think the wiki has anything on the stat bonuses from different species.
 

Jiffler

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Is there any way to make the save editor compatible for Mac like it used to be 3 years ago?