Your Gripes With CoC2

MarcoPolo121

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It feels like it's a shame for 105 pages worth of content to just get rejected.
Honestly feels like a good example of how bloated the game has become. 105 pages for one side character? Granted, I'm sure the formatting choices padded the length out, but still.
But also, damn, I can see why it was.
I tracked it down but I can't bear to look. Something tells me I won't like what I see, and it'll put me off eating for a while.
I don't want Liufr to get cut though, I'd much rather they just get pics and are left as-is.
Any preferences on who'd draw them? Adjatha, Moira etc.?
 
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Ah, yes. Remember when we could get a ghost in our head in CoC1 who could reshape people's bodies and fly into other people's heads for sex?
I will admit, that was pretty fun back then. Then again possession is a pretty neat thing to play with in the context of the PC getting it tbh. :p
Surprised someone hasn't tried to make a follower character of that sort with scenes to go with it or whatnot.
 

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Honestly feels like a good example of how bloated the game has become. 105 pages for one side character? Granted, I'm sure the formatting choices padded the length out, but still.

I tracked it down but I can't bear to look. Something tells me I won't like what I see, and it'll put me off eating for a while.

Any preferences on who'd draw them? Adjatha, Moira etc.?
I tend to prefer moira's art, and to my knowledge adjatha mostly does TiTS no?
 

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I tracked it down but I can't bear to look. Something tells me I won't like what I see, and it'll put me off eating for a while.
I didn't see/find any gore or blood. I didn't fully read it but the portions I read and what I skimmed through were more of like... kidnapping Liufr forcibly breaking down their will and pride until they're nothing but a broken shell of a person that obeys your every whim and even convinces themselves that it's just your love and that you know what's best. So, you know, pretty fucked up for this game (outside of a bad end).
Any preferences on who'd draw them? Adjatha, Moira etc.?
I don't really have any say, but if I did get to pick, probably DCLzexon.
 
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MarcoPolo121

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I will admit, that was pretty fun back then. Then again possession is a pretty neat thing to play with in the context of the PC getting it tbh. :p
Surprised someone hasn't tried to make a follower character of that sort with scenes to go with it or whatnot.
Probably a logistical nightmare. You need to not only craft your own character from scratch, but get permission from other writers to do scenes with their characters and make sure you do those characters justice.
I tend to prefer moira's art, and to my knowledge adjatha mostly does TiTS no?
Maybe so, but if they have good enough relations with FenCo, I'm sure commission works could be worked out.
I didn't see/find any gore or blood. I didn't fully read it but the portions I read and what I skimmed through were more of like... kidnapping Liufr forcibly breaking down their will and pride until they're nothing but a broken shell of a person that obeys your every whim and even convinces themselves that it's just your love and that you know what's best. So, you know, pretty fucked up for this game (outside of a bad end).
That's the thing. I find mindbreak and Stockholm-ing content just as dark if not even darker than if it was gore and Satan stuff. I've played Doom 2016 and its sequel, I can handle meat horror. Personality horror is the A+ Nightmare Fuel for me.
I don't really have any say, but if I did get to pick, probably DCLzexon.
Good choice. They make pretty good art too.
 
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May I just say, something that makes very little sense to me is, in order to get the magic cage in which you can use on ryn, or her sister, you have to become lovers with her , like I Don understand why you can't , not be lovers with her to get the cage , especially if u want to use it on the sister later like, why is there no option to get either a separate magic cage or go back and find the old one to use for the sisters content? I don't understand why it's locked behind this mechanic.
 

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That's the thing. I find mindbreak and Stockholm-ing content just as dark if not even darker than if it was gore and Satan stuff. I've played Doom 2016 and its sequel, I can handle meat horror. Personality horror is the A+ Nightmare Fuel for me.
Not desensitized by Hentai and Porn comics, eh?
 
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Kinda wish Sap Warmth wasn't just "if you're at max health, heal party member" and was closer to "heal self, overflow healing goes to party member". It feels like half the time either my Cryomancer character or Frostheart Cait just don't heal anyone because they had a sliver of health missing due to an enemy like Hashat or the Demontaur having tiny amounts of passive aoe damage.
 

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That's the one, not a fan of randomly having a transphobic slur chucked at me because I like to play as an elf
Here we go again... x.x'

Intersex elves that are born that way from the start are not the same as the character being trans.
Like no offense, but this has came up as a gripe so much it's pretty certain that ain't being changed.
 

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Here we go again... x.x'

Intersex elves that are born that way from the start are not the same as the character being trans.
Like no offense, but this has came up as a gripe so much it's pretty certain that ain't being changed.
Did get changed and frankly, I'm not actually sure what you're trying to say here. Like, just because they aren't trans, doesn't make it not a slur and certainly doesn't make it okay to use said slur to refer to them
 

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Not desensitized by Hentai and Porn comics, eh?
Some things you just never get used to. And as someone who's neurodivergent myself, there's nothing I hate more than people losing their sense of self and being turned into broken pleisure objects for the benefit of depraved @$$#oles on a power trip.
 
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Not desensitized by Hentai and Porn comics, eh?
Depends on what kind of hentai and porn comics you read, no?

I read a lot, but definitely never any rape and/or mindbreak stuff. And if you think hentai is just those two fetishes, then that says more about you than anyone else.
 
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Depends on what kind of hentai and porn comics you read, no?

I read a lot, but definitely never any rape and/or mindbreak stuff. And if you think hentai is just those two fetishes, then that says more about you than anyone else.
Not the sites that present it that people run across? Oh right, everyone has the same search experience and it's that direct and even predictable what shows up in people's algorithms/bubbles.
 

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Alright. I've tried to be more understanding and to not be as bad as some others on the forums but I'm taking a moment to vent here.

I have actually reached the point of anger when it comes to futas and dickgirls in this game mostly due to the fact that I just can't seem to reason out why despite how unpopular it seems to be among those that actually comment on these forums and patches we keep getting so many of the kind of dick girl that is so difficult to deal with for so many people.

Karithea was bad enough, if you're into getting dommed that's one thing but the problem was this character crossed lines with other characters the champion can't for seemingly no reason. Mara has some affection for the champion and was helped to find a safe place to be in Khor'Minos? That's great but she's not interested. What's that? Some random bull she's never met comes by? Well then she's happy to get bred!

Tay comes out around the same time, yet another futa domme that bends the player over and if you're not into that. Its a dead character that you will never interact with ever again after smacking her around in the arena for a turn or two. As I said if you're into fine but two in a row that both had massive content was too much.

Two characters with unique appearances in Khor'Minos, Ryxx and Nieve? Both are one way futas that in they're dialogue say that they essentially won't do anything else. Yes they're both from fan writers I believe but that essentially just means random chance screwed these characters out interest from a lot players.

Now we have the elf twins who's biggest gripe when they're quest first came out was that you can't get them away from the dickgirl cat despite the dick girl cat not being down to do anything until... Fuck you she changed her mind and doesn't need a reason despite being quite angry in the same scene. So what does the expansion do? They don't move to the wayfort, they visit with their girlfriend, the fucking cat! All they're expansion has accomplished with me is making me hate that cat, I don't know which one is which cause I avoided them since before the elves they only had one scene where you didn't get fucked by the futa.

Now going into Mayternity, B is writing... You guessed it! Another futa domme that you can potentially fuck at some point... But not before she fucks you roughly and repeatedly. Essentially going through the same paradoxically strange scenario of Evelyn, a dickgirl who you can only fuck after she's fucked you at least 10 times and becomes a domming dragon queen.

At a certain point it almost seems comical. When Karithea came out I hated her but she did get a lot of praise cause she was so novel at the time but this has gotten seriously out of hand compounded by the sparse patches. Which I know aren't something that can be helped but it makes some patches, dead patches.

So it all poses a question; why do a largr amount of futas in this game have to have one or more reasons for a person who doesn't necessarily like futa itself but can stomach it, to just ignore or even hate them? I love Arona, I'm not crazy about the dick but I don't have to take it. That is not true for so, so many of the futas that have come out in the last year and it only seems to be getting worse and I didn't even name all of them. The cat, is a different problem not wholly connected to this but I still find the way this expansion has been done to be baffling.

I've been playing CoC2 since launch, I've backed it for almost as long. I really enjoy the game, I don't have the immolating the hate others do for things like futa or furry but this obsession with inserting futas everywhere, making them do things almost intentionally to aggravate a player. Like with Kari/Mara or flying in the face of the actual appeal of preg content with the elf twins. I don't understand it and I'm having a harder and harder time not disliking futa with how much worse I think its making the game as these characters are currently being used.

I'll once again restate that I don't have some all consuming hate for futa but it's a frustration I've had essentially as long Karithea has been out and its only been getting worse.
 
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Alright. I've tried to be more understanding and to not be as bad as some others on the forums but I'm taking a moment to vent here.

I have actually reached the point of anger when it comes to futas and dickgirls in this game mostly due to the fact that I just can't seem to reason out why despite how unpopular it seems to be among those that actually comment on these forums and patches we keep getting so many of the kind of dick girl that is so difficult to deal with for so many people.

Karithea was bad enough, if you're into getting dommed that's one thing but the problem was this character crossed lines with other characters the champion can't for seemingly no reason. Mara has some affection for the champion and was helped to find a safe place to be in Khor'Minos? That's great but she's not interested. What's that? Some random bull she's never met comes by? Well then she's happy to get bred!

Tay comes out around the same time, yet another futa domme that bends the player over and if you're not into that. Its a dead character that you will never interact with ever again after smacking her around in the arena for a turn or two. As I said if you're into fine but two in a row that both had massive content was too much.

Two characters with unique appearances in Khor'Minos, Ryxx and Nieve? Both are one way futas that in they're dialogue say that they essentially won't do anything else. Yes they're both from fan writers I believe but that essentially just means random chance screwed these characters out interest from a lot players.

Now we have the elf twins who's biggest gripe when they're quest first came out was that you can't get them away from the dickgirl cat despite the dick girl cat not being down to do anything until... Fuck you she changed her mind and doesn't need a reason despite being quite angry in the same scene. So what does the expansion do? They don't move to the wayfort, they visit with their girlfriend, the fucking cat! All they're expansion has accomplished with me is making me hate that cat, I don't know which one is which cause I avoided them since before the elves they only had one scene where you didn't get fucked by the futa.

Now going into Mayternity, B is writing... You guessed it! Another futa domme that you can potentially fuck at some point... But not before she fucks you roughly and repeatedly. Essentially going through the same paradoxically strange scenario of Evelyn, a dickgirl who you can only fuck after she's fucked you at least 10 times and becomes a domming dragon queen.

At a certain point it almost seems like its happening on purpose. When Kariyhea came out I hated her but she did get a lot of praise cause she was so novel at the time but this has gotten seriously out of hand compounded by the sparse patches. Which I know aren't something that can be helped but it makes some patches, dead patches.

So it all poses a question; why do a vast majority of futas in this game have to have one or more reasons for a person who doesn't necessarily like futa itself but can stomach it, to just ignore or even hate them? I love Arona, I'm not crazy about the dick but I don't have to take it. That is not true for so, so many of the futas that have come out in the last year and it only seems to be getting worse. The cat, is a different problem not wholly connected to this but I still find the way this expansion has been done to be baffling.

I've been playing CoC2 since launch, I've backed it for almost as long. I really enjoy the game, I don't have the immolating the hate others do for things like futa or furry but this obsession with inserting futas everywhere, making them do things almost intentionally to aggravate a player. Like with Kari/Mara or flying in the face of the actual appeal of preg content with the elf twins. I don't understand it and I'm having a harder and harder time not disliking futa with how much worse I think its making the game as these characters are currently being used.

I'll once restate that I don't gave some all consuming hate for futa but it's a frustration I've had essentially as long Karithea has been out and its only been getting worse.
And yes I know that was a long comment but I didn't want to make some short comment that came off calling it a gay furry game like some other comments I've found.
 
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simply put, the commissioners want it. the people who actually pay money directly want that content

edit: what are you talking about with kari?
Karithea is the only one of the ones I mentioned that I know to be a independent commisions paid for to Wsan. Two others that I mentioned were fan written as I explicity stated in my comment, I don't know if SkoW was commisioned for the elves, I dint believe they were. Finally, B said something to the effect of "Savin doesn't have infinite money and patience" making me believe Savin is in someway a commissioner of the snake girl. If you're argument is that I shouldn't be able to count her since she is quite literally commissioned by the person in charge of making the game to my knowledge.

All of that also skips over the fact that my problem was with the direction the entire game had been going for some time. Commisions are not guaranteed to make it in, they are not relevant to plenty of examples of my issue I'm having, and my overall point was that its straining my and seemingly other people's ability to deal with how often they're popping up.

You're argument is simplistic at best but I'd say you either didn't read my full comment (it is very long and even vitriolic at the start) or you weren't able to understand what I was saying. I know this may be difficult for you to grasp but this game isn't composed entirely off freely commissioned writing.

As for the Kari thing, I won't elaborate because I spelled it out in my previous comment. If you don't know what I'm talking about it only further shows your ignorance on a topic you chose to opine on.

I did my best to be very clear in my reasoning and I'm not going into extra detail for someone who likely didn't take any real amount of time to consider what I said before giving me an knee jerk response.
 
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Karithea is the only one of the ones I mentioned that I know to be a independent commisions paid for to Wsan
*Kalysea.

Karithea is my character, and was not a commission.

That said, FWIW, Kalysea was a commission Wsan took from a community member and wasn't written on staff hours.

making me believe Savin is in someway a commissioner of the snake girl
That is correct. B came to me with an idea for a snake girl, I said, "Sure, I'd pay for that, sounds hot."
 

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*Kalysea.

Karithea is my character, and was not a commission.

That said, FWIW, Kalysea was a commission Wsan took from a community member and wasn't written on staff hours.


That is correct. B came to me with an idea for a snake girl, I said, "Sure, I'd pay for that, sounds hot."
Got the taur and hell hound's names mixed up but I do believe that I was correct on the mixture of free commission, fan writing and in house commission of my comment.

Look, this game started off as a dickgirl game and likely a dickgirl game it shall remain. Imagine how I feel as a men-liker
And once again, you make a statement that proves you didn't read or possibly understand my comment. I don't want them to stop making futas in general and I won't repeat myself anymore than that. If you can't understand with all that I wrote what I'm talking about, I can't help you.
 
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