Your Gripes With CoC2
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That's really the same problem as
romance in mainstream rpg games, what matters most? Diversity and uniqueness or accessibility? Having straight, gay, nich sexuality characters etc... make npc richer in how they're characterized. But it also put some people at disadvantage, one group will always end up the unsastified minority. Even more for a game run by fan submissions and commissions, there's not really a clear solution to guarantee all groups feel fulfilled by the content proposed. It's understandable but it also kinda suck when you're the one getting left behind.
romance in mainstream rpg games, what matters most? Diversity and uniqueness or accessibility? Having straight, gay, nich sexuality characters etc... make npc richer in how they're characterized. But it also put some people at disadvantage, one group will always end up the unsastified minority. Even more for a game run by fan submissions and commissions, there's not really a clear solution to guarantee all groups feel fulfilled by the content proposed. It's understandable but it also kinda suck when you're the one getting left behind.
i think you could spin it as making everyone champ sexual, outside of chamo they act like they would but everyone is attracted to champ
"Look, I know I said I was gay, and in every other instance that statement holds true, but I think I like you."
"...are you calling me manish?"
"More so twinkish."
"...are you calling me manish?"
"More so twinkish."
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thats when you admit two of life's fundamental truths :
"A Win, is A Win" and "If there's A Hole, there's A Goal"
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I'm pretty new to the forums, but while I initially enjoyed the Kitsune plotline in my first run because I was seeing it all for the first time, on my second it feels kinda....forced? Like do I have any autonomy or impact here or am I just a bystander watching someone else's story unfurl?
Hope I'm not beating a dead horse if it's been brought up, bc I think the kitsune content has been around for a WHILE.
Hope I'm not beating a dead horse if it's been brought up, bc I think the kitsune content has been around for a WHILE.
thats like the most common thing people say about that specific parts writing, it feels like the champion feels weak and not important at all(i know, i know, "not everything revolves around you", but surprise, you sre ACTUALLY the main character so yes, it DOES) so you are not alone in thag
Glad I'm not alone then lol Like I like the "outsider in a different world" dynamic, but bruuuuuh
It's not even the other fox members that make it the worst. I find out Kinu is getting married, and Kiyoko is like "Yea, I didn't tell you bc you cant do shit about it hehe. Deal with it I guess" And the champion is just like.....aight? Not a word of protest.
I then speak to Kinu (Hime ver.) and she at least says that she was worried you might make a fuss, which was a fair reason to begin with, but when you ask if she thinks so little of you that you would get in her way, her response is "yes." And we just...gloss over that and carry on? Why is the champion getting treated like garbage outta no where lol
yea lol, thats the MOST common reason people either A. abandon that branch of story at all(i mean kiyoko and kinu, not the whole fox story and place) or B. they just put up with it or dont care, but mostly its hime - hates you and is mini kiyoko, inari - hates kiyoko and is mini you(also YOU think you freed your family in like weeks, but for them it was actually like a decade, so hime blames you and inari blames mom)
!? Who thought this was a good resolution? I liked the Kitsune, this is kinda disappointing. Major vibe killer. I got like no motivation to continue. It almost seems like Hime marries the edgelord purely to spite you, and Inari the farmer to spite Kiyoko. Mc'bruhs all around.
Hime marries Nakano in an arranged marriage, not really up to her.
And I don't get framing Inari breaking from tradition to marry the person she loves as a negative. Kiyoko is not flawless, Kinu is allowed to dislike her actions and opinions.
Player bashing might be that author's fetish. Shaming you for choosing to let Garret have drunken sex with you was a serious red flag in retrospect.
Yeah, on my last playthrough (maybe my fifth or sixth) I didn't really engage with the Kitsune much at all once Kiyoko was saved. I agree that the way you're pushed aside by the family feels gross. I got hime Kinu the last few times so maybe I'll lean into inari - I've only set her down that path once and didn't like how isolated she was, but maybe it'll feel different with more perspective.
I actually feel Hana has been a huge saving grace for the kitsune as a whole. Having a kitsune who is ostracised by her own kind, doesn't look down on you, and who shares your 'kitsune culture sucks' perspective is very validating.
If only the Faceless Blade hadn't joined a cult and stabbed that person that one time, she too could have joined our kitsune-hate club.
I actually feel Hana has been a huge saving grace for the kitsune as a whole. Having a kitsune who is ostracised by her own kind, doesn't look down on you, and who shares your 'kitsune culture sucks' perspective is very validating.
If only the Faceless Blade hadn't joined a cult and stabbed that person that one time, she too could have joined our kitsune-hate club.
i think that applies to everything, because god knows tetsuya made me love going to the fox village all over again(kohaku as well but that's different)