Your Gripes With CoC2

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Mine is actually a question, why does my lupine turn into a feline just because I use root of man and leave just the ears and tail? if I leave the legs and hands they turn into anubian?? Sorry if it's the wrong place to post but I at least didn't see any myself that would talk about this.
 

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Mine is actually a question, why does my lupine turn into a feline just because I use root of man and leave just the ears and tail? if I leave the legs and hands they turn into anubian?? Sorry if it's the wrong place to post but I at least didn't see any myself that would talk about this.
anubians are like lupines except their torso and face are that of humans, a feline has only ears and tail it doesn't matter which ears and tail they are as long as its furry, if I'm not mistaken
 
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SeveringCrisis

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anubians are like lupines except their torso and face are that of humans, a feline has only ears and tail it doesn't matter which ears and tail they are as long as its furry, if I'm not mistaken
I think you can still be lupine in game, I think there's a face/tongue tf?
 

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Mine is actually a question, why does my lupine turn into a feline just because I use root of man and leave just the ears and tail? if I leave the legs and hands they turn into anubian?? Sorry if it's the wrong place to post but I at least didn't see any myself that would talk about this.
Because of how racial scores work, humanoid face & skin (not-fur) means the character is closer to catfolk than to lupine. Doesn't use the specific type of ears / tail, just the existence of.

Same thing explains anubian: furred legs & arms, furry ears, furry tail--closest to anubian.
 

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My gripe is also about corruption too.

To be honest, after I explore most of the game content that the "good guy" can experience in the game, I will inevitably want to try the "really bad guy" style, although most of the time I play this games as pure female PC.
But I still hope it's not just PC who have bad things happen, PC's Companions, lovers, wives, even other NPCs too, I want spreading disaster and corruption to PC’s companions and their home.

I think we need to make fully corrupt PC capable of more bad things, for example, let Companions and lovers to do repeated crazy breeding and extremely lewd orgy parties with unknown men or women or futa, using lovers and even wives' love for PC to destroy their daily lives unscrupulously, secretly organizing demonic troops to break or sneak into and finaly conquer the homes of wives and lovers, such as Telduum Village, Kiyoko's home, Centaur Village and Marefolk Village.
Like Kas's sex dungeon, I also want to build a breeding ranch or orgy brothel of my own, just want to try what villains and demons like do.

For example, let fuck buddies, lovers and even loyal wives who love PC join breeding ranch(responsible for giving birth to centaur or imp babies, and after giving birth, squeeze out their excess breast milk for sale) or work in brothel, offer free sex and get breeding in pubs or Minotaur Military Camp even their home, and rent themselves including womb and eggs out in "voluntarily or involuntarily", even let them become "free rental surrogate waifu", "A illegitimate-child production factory specially used for brood parasite",or become Behemoth's breeding mare, maybe it won't be easy to convince or command them to agree, but I hope I can do something bad like it, just breeding, corruption, fallen, again and again.

Especially innocent and cheerful centaur wife Ahmri, I want to send her to Wayfort get breeding with the stallions Behemoth and get pregnant.
In the desperate fact that the body has completely succumbed to Behemoth and the unbelievable strong pleasure, she gave birth to healthy babies for the strongest stallions Behemoth again and again, maybe we can use her and Behemoth's children raise a centaur army to conquer and ravage the places of PC's companions and NPCs.

The milky-cowgirl wives Brienne's family, I thought it would be a good idea for let the three of them go to work in brothels, or as camp whores for Minotaur soldiers just like in the bad ends, or like the party service event, offering free-sex for the Minotaur breeders in the pub, and rent out milky-cow wives' idle wombs and even defenseless eggs, even let them just wear cow-print bikinis and cow-print panties, find and recruit unknown names and identities men(mainly minotaurs) in need on the street to take home, and provide free surrogacy to all males.
Continuing to do this from day and night, day in day out, and at some time, maybe a few weeks, maybe a few months later, they all return to PC's side, all three of them rubbing their bellies and announcing the“Good News” to the PC that they have all been impregnated by unknown men and have successfully become pregnant, the baby will be born soon.
being raped, inseminated, impregnated, and ultimately giving birth to the Minotaur's child again and again, is also a way to contribute to Khor'minos, isn't it?
As people of the kingdom, and to help their own kingdom fight against demons, Brienne's family must give birth to healthy and strong children for the Minotaurs(may also be replaced by a demon without realizing it) one after another. This will become their "obligation" for the rest of their lives, it would be a crime to leave those eggs and wombs empty.
Minotaurs will be a powerful source of troops, and they are extremely easy to corrupt, as long as start with their libido, all cowgirls will soon turn into the most slutty and lascivious sluts, of course Brienne's family is no exception, they will provide an endless source of reserve troops for the corrupt cause.

The mare wife Atani, she was fit to become a centaur fertility slave in Harvest Valley, gave birth to one child after another for the invaders, eventually, the centaurs she gave birth to conquered the marefolk village. Now, the centaurs have their own breeding pasture. It's foreseeable that no matter what status they had before, they are now just allowed to be raped and get impregnated by the centaurs, that's the daily work of breeding mares.
There is no redemption and any help waiting for the poor mares, just get fucked and fill their wombs with conqueror's semen day after day, getting pregnant, and giving birth to the intruders' babies, until their eggs are completely exhausted, that's it.
They will also become part of the source of the Centaur army.

As for kitsune nobility wife Kiyoko, she is a nine-tailed kitsune. If you give her enough personal time at night, I believe she knows what to do, she is also a prolific and full of motherhood mother, but sometimes, you know, MILF needs to satisfy her own breed desires, she might find some wolves to mate with day and night, never stop until she is satisfied, just like wild beasts.(there are currently no canine enemies other than wolves. Hellhound only has Karithea.)
or give her sacred and maternal body to imps, her maternal womb and eggs welcome all all who need it, she is already the mother of at least 32 children and would not mind becoming the mother of more demons now, a mother as fertile and fecund like Kiyoko should become the best surrogate mother.
Degenerated from a full of motherhood and fertile kitsune mother into a breeding ground for imps, who doesn't enjoy such blasphemy and fallen? Maybe can also let her get breeding and mate with goblins and orcs in the future.
and the corrupt kitsunes will provide unique and powerful spell support. Maybe catfolk priestess(Cait and Salwah) too?

As for Kiyoko’s Willingness, this is easy to solve. Whether you use sleeping pills, aphrodisiacs on her, or directly ask or even order her to do these things she doesn't like, I believe it can be done. After all, PC is her husband or maybe the wife, and Kiyoko is a typical Japanese style characters. In fact, it is not uncommon in Japan for wives to be forced to actively or passively mate and get pregnant with other males for various reasons.
At least I think it is much easier to make Kiyoko submit than to other wives, but in the final analysis, this is just part of the fun, at most it is a little extreme.

Starting with characters who Intimate relationship with PC, let Corruption, Libido, and the breeding desire continue to spread, just like the bad ends of Minotaurs' Stress Relief or Centaur Pack Slave, Involve companions and lovers like Cait, Brienne and Kiyoko.

It would be great if the other wives could participate in other events involving become corruption, including Brienne's family, Ahmri and Atani and their village. If Khor'minos Outskirts is attacked by demons and falls in the subsequent plot, I will hope that Brienne The family, Princess Varena, Mimi, Nona, Livrea, Rose, Tricia and other familiar female minotaurs were get fucked and messed up by imps, and let their wombs and ovaries are thoroughly soaked in demon's semen.
It would be great if in the end, they could line up in a row and give birth to a bunch of imps together while moaning and crying.
I would love to see them become as "happy" and "satisfied (pregnant)" as the girls in Kas's sex dungeon.
spread breeding, corruption, fallen, never ending, this is what a corrupt and chaotic demon should do.
I don't agree with the cuccing but I do agree there needs to be more corruption.
 
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First I just wanna say this game is amazing, like, wow, the amount of thought and love that have been put into it. And it's huge (sadly, that is not what she said).

I have two nitpicks about the prose:
  1. Sometimes the player-character's speech is quoted directly and sometimes it's embedded in the narration. It's weird that the game is inconsistent. Also, the second of these styles wouldn't be great even if it was used consistently—it leads to the feeling that NPCs are having a conversation with the narrator, instead of the PC.
  2. All speech is italicized. This is distracting, and redundant with quotation marks. I've turned off the italics with a user stylesheet, but that causes other uses of italics to also disappear, because a plain <i> is used for both cases.
 
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Karakara

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Why can't we still top Quin?
Because that would make him to popular. Seriously though, apparently his author didn't want to write it and I have no clue why. There is really only downsides to having a guy that only tops most of the time. Even the "hard core tops" would become more appealing to a lot of folk if you could be their little service top.

But Birbs is planning to write some, and here is hoping that it is 2+ scenes. And for it to not be locked behind lover relationship status.
 

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Because that would make him to popular. Seriously though, apparently his author didn't want to write it and I have no clue why. There is really only downsides to having a guy that only tops most of the time. Even the "hard core tops" would become more appealing to a lot of folk if you could be their little service top.

But Birbs is planning to write some, and here is hoping that it is 2+ scenes. And for it to not be locked behind lover relationship status.
thats the whole point of it though isnt it? quinn is the type of guy to say "thats GaY" on almost anything, and not in a funny way, so it would be more in character for it to be locked behind a lovers status, plus it would leave him in a sexually vulnerable state and, pretty sure he's had enough of that at the cult
 

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thats the whole point of it though isnt it? quinn is the type of guy to say "thats GaY" on almost anything, and not in a funny way, so it would be more in character for it to be locked behind a lovers status, plus it would leave him in a sexually vulnerable state and, pretty sure he's had enough of that at the cult
Let me rephrase myself -- from meta perspective, limiting your guys to only hard tops makes no logical sense. You can make characters straight men and what not, but that doesn't make it advised. If you are going to spend your time writing male content, an already underappreciated part of the game, why would you write guys like Elyon, Quin, Minotaurs, Darius and so on and so on without giving us the ability to peg them? How can we go on about how "no one engages with men", while giving people that like pitch nothing to sink their teeth into? Of course people are going to seem disinterested -- you haven't given them what a lot of them want.

Edit: All this to say -- give Quin bottoming scenes and he will already double his appreciators.
 
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Gabranth

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Here's a crazy idea:
Ditch Quin, throw him in the garbage bin, then cast said bin into a black hole
Reinstate Best Boy Berwyn to his rightful place.

You gain:
Femboy you can fuck with/get fucked by without any extra steps or bs, solid companion, overall good char. Happy happy fans

You lose:
Literally nothing of value.

Profit!
 

CboyC95

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Here's a crazy idea:
Ditch Quin, throw him in the garbage bin, then cast said bin into a black hole
Reinstate Best Boy Berwyn to his rightful place.

You gain:
Femboy you can fuck with/get fucked by without any extra steps or bs, solid companion, overall good char. Happy happy fans

You lose:
Literally nothing of value.

Profit!
Okay, where is this coming from? Why do you hate Quin so much?
 

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Here's a crazy idea:
Ditch Quin, throw him in the garbage bin, then cast said bin into a black hole
Reinstate Best Boy Berwyn to his rightful place.

You gain:
Femboy you can fuck with/get fucked by without any extra steps or bs, solid companion, overall good char. Happy happy fans

You lose:
Literally nothing of value.

Profit!
Too late for that, I fear. They drove poor Berry into a ditch. After the actual tangled mess of knots they turned him/her into, you'd have better odds getting the bottom-heavy mouseboy that follows Tollus around. (Whispers, if anyone couldn't tell.)
 
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Gabranth

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Okay, where is this coming from? Why do you hate Quin so much?
Whaaaat?
Me? Hate a character that adds pretty much nothing to the story, uses lust magic on people without their consent, fumbled a cool origin story, handled poorly by its og author; who got pissed at people in this very forum for not being happy about the character, or how it was handled?

I can't possibly hate such a character.
Consider it a waste of bytes? Maybe.

Unhappy that a much better character was demoted to regular NPC, while said waste of bytes remains a companion, and is getting new content, written by an author I like? For sure, 100%.
 

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I would like for Berwyn to return as a companion (excluding his dum/sub meter and transformations for easier implementation while still giving people the option to keep him as gender bendable NPC for those that prefer him like that) and for Quin to get content.

I have no idea what his author did, but taken on his own, he is the guy that I would like to see more of. I would like to see him become more self aware of his failings, while also exploring his cocky and nerdy sides. And backsides, of course.
 
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Big gripe at the moment - Catalyst weapons that have NO reason to be Catalyst weapons except that they are "magey." As far as my understanding goes, Catalyst only allows accuracy and crit stats on the weapon or offhand equipment to be usable for spells - nothing else. Either Catalyst needs to be updated to include a mage like benefit - maybe a portion of your spell power to provide attack power to allow a mage's basic attack to actually be worthwhile or make your spells stronger somehow - this is on top of the accuracy/crit usability or provide accuracy and/or crit stats on all items that currently have the Catalyst tag so it actually makes sense. Or just remove the catalyst tag from those items where it doesn't even matter.
 

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Almost every interaction you have with freed Kiyoko ends the day. I don't think brushing her hair would instantly put you to sleep at 10:00 am.
Oh my god. Idk why Tobs did this, but the whole Kitsune Den is guilty of that crime. Worst place mechanically for the player. Want to romance Rhindo? Sorry only from 1 pm to 6 pm. Kohaku only from 4 pm to 8 pm. You can only visit Azami after 7 pm. Kinu is teleporting all around the Den. Miko and Mai are constantly swapping between each other. That NPC go to sleep and do other stuff is a concept I understand but holy moly, no other place in the game is this annoying about it. Honestly I should sue Tobs for the wear and tear my "g" key had to suffer because of him.
 

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I think it's just that femboys were rare at that point in the game and Berwyn was hot. He wasn't very strong and didn't have much meat as a companion though, probably why he got demoted to NPC. Ofc by that metric, there's a few other characters who deserve to get demoted to NPC like Viviane, and Agni. I'd say Quin but given he's tied to cult storyline there's still room for him to get things. Also Agni can get interactions with harpies and we're heading up to the real harpy settlement so there's room for her too. Viviane though, idk what the plan for her is, she needs some kinda quest.
 

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Honestly, Berwyn and Quin are both poorly written characters in different ways. I really don't think any of the male companions are that good really. I'll never understand the histrionic reaction people had when the former was removed as a companion. You'd swear their dog had been shot or something. I get being upset about it but they took it way too personally. They also acted like him being removed was some travesty, like he's the only femboy in existence or something or the only one they've ever seen before. I get the game doesn't have a lot of guys in it but there are other forms of media where you can get that fix, femboy or otherwise.
 

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No, but seriously. What do you like so much about him? He was always a bare bones character for me, even with his DLC added on (although I glossed over a lot of the text cause I'm pretty sure I went braindead from the maze).
Can not speak for Gabranth but what I liked about Berwyn was:
His design: I think, out of all our companions, he had the best ome. Sure, his dick could have been smaler and his ass little less wide, but he really stands out. The white hair, tanned skin and blur wizzard guard are equal parts adorable and sexy/

His characteer: If you ask me, in terms of characterization, he was probably the best defined. He had his likes, dislikes, poor point and selling points. He was bratty, horny and little condescending at times. But he was also a valnurable guy that really oppened up to PC specifically if you seeked him out. His cuddle scene is still a highlight to me. He had a character arc brewing dealing with his insecurities as a mage and his relationship with Matiha tha that seemingly got abbondened when his NPC conversition took course.

He was a josou seme. And that is still a rarity.

Look, I know that popularity does not tell the whole story, but Berwyn was our most popular male companion. And while one can argue that it mostly has to do with his design, I will argue that it also has to do with the characterization. I already saw how polarizing Quin is, but Brint, in my opinion, is a little to simple for an NPC, much less a companion. He has no goals, no real character struggles. He is just there. And while that is fine, that really does not leave me with craving for more of him

Plus, unlike with Brint to who you need to bottom to first to gain ability to top him, and Quin who we simply can not, Berwyn was more then happy to let champ be on top. Which helped.

Of course, one could argue that this is all small potatos, and they would be correct. But non of our companions really have a lot of going on, and Berwyns incompleatness and removal makes one ponder where his arc and character could have went.
 
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