Your Gripes With CoC2

[probehuntress]

Okay there's a lot to unpack there.

I mean, corruption being less relevant, sure. I wouldn't want to be someone who mained a corrupt Champion in the last game because there's not nearly as much content for them in this game. But Kasyrra is not only a former minion of Lethice, but the creator of the faux-dragon girls Kiha was formerly part of. Plus almost every race in Mareth has a direct counterpart in Savarra, even if the lore behind them is quite different. And that's without counting characters who are clearly intended as references like Aileh.

They only remove or wall off content they deem to be lorebreaking, superfluous or where the writer who made it had a falling-out with the team, e.g. Etheryn and Hethia's original first meeting in which the latter shames the former for being half-sexed and mentions her grandfather, only for a later quest to reveal she had a half-sexed grandmother the druids revered; Berwyn being stripped of Companion status after Hugs-Alright's acrimonious split with Savin and co.

I'll readily concede that the Mad Cow quest requires you to have a temporary personality/intelligence transplant by aliens if you're not playing a heavily corrupted/Dark Knight character, but you seem to have forgotten about Vivianne's recruitment quest allowing you to let her turn into a demon. Granted I can't blame you because it doesn't really change her sex scenes that much. Not to mention you can let a cat demon bunk at your Wayfort, along with demon Jae'lyn and Sandre & Cae. There's room for plenty of corruption. Plus as I understand the corrupt paths for Hive and Centaur Village are still being worked on, even if they have maybe been in the oven for too long.

Oh they care. They care very much. The problems arose because this is a more ambitious game they're trying to make, they're doing several things differently instead of a direct, identical sequel to the original, both this and TiTS had to migrate their entire games from Adobe Flash to Javascript after the former was discontinued a couple years ago, and don't get me started on the COVID-19 Pandemic.

the name coc2 implies the inclusion of big coc themes like corruption and tf, spend any time in the corruption tag and its clear that it's not the focus of coc2. Its debatable that it's completely out of focus. yes corruption exists but nothing to get excited about, yet.. nevermind placating me, what would excite me is more than one character, fuck it a few, with a corruption arc, complete with the consequences of whatever corruption means to the setting. characters who react to your own corruption. straight up corruption gated content like the bazaar from coc. And a sprinkle of the way coc made corruption feel like a looming omnipotent threat on your doorstep, instead in coc2 where it just feels like something we'll deal with later i got 6 hoes in my dms rn and they all on throat wdym.

i think alot of the legwork in making coc corruption feel pervasive as it does was with its locations, and its tf's containing corruption at a much higher rate.

titles don't really mean anything outside of the game tho, atm i think of this one more as fenco 3 than coc2

 

[valk42]

tuiquest pops too quickly on a brand new file and very, very slowly on an old one. would love to see the timing tinkered with

 

[slime-o-verse]

This is something that's bothered me for quite a while. The pregnancy system as it applies to the pc feels undercooked. For one thing, no matter what my champion is pregnant with, how far along they are, or how many they're having, the game never acknowledges how big they should be. My 5'3"/63 inches, lean build champion who's a mere three days from delivering twin minotaurs should have a belly that's quite a bit bigger than "a woman in the later stages of her pregnancy", and it definitely shouldn't be "still small enough for easy portability". As someone who prefers to be pregnant as opposed to getting someone else pregnant, it's a letdown. It really feels like the pc's pregnancies aren't included out of any sense of passion or care for the kink, but because someone felt like it's supposed to be there and they're just checking the box. Sort of like "well TiTS has it so I guess we need to have it too."

 

[Tiffye]

Maybe I'm too invested bc tism and hyenas were something of a special interest but the gnolls are incorrect. Ik this game doesn't focus on having super accurate genitals per different race, such as races mixed with large herbivores all having horse dicks, but I think the gnolls can be worth making more accurate. I don't even really care about their stuff being labeled as "canine" even when they're actually genetically closer to felines, it's mainly just that the clit dick should actually be the vag itself as a pseudopenis, instead of a large clit + normal labia and vaginal opening

I know it's already fantasy and they're anthropomorphic and blah blah blah, but we frankly have plenty of canine adjacent races and characters to be able to fuck with the normal anatomy. Let more of the crazy cool anatomy of this sideline race come through and be even more unique

Also, while sort of going against what I've said since they'd be little more than the same basic canine males we have, more mention of male gnolls would be cool

 

[Gardeford]

tuiquest pops too quickly on a brand new file and very, very slowly on an old one. would love to see the timing tinkered with

This has been talked about, I'm looking at what people are saying and trying to judge a new set of timings.

 

[VantagePoint]

Well...
Brienne should have straight up been a different character. She doesn't really resemble Brint... at all. The means with which you get her seem to have initially been intended to be the "corrrupt" thing to do, but people love waifus too much to make turning a character into one a "bad" thing to do. It feels like we got the worst of both worlds on that front. The link to Brint is questionable, but the game plays it like it's not, so there's not even an angle to enjoy it from an "intentional asshole point of view.

As far as Quinn goes, I actually think more picky NPCs is a pretty good way to flesh them out. Sexuality IS an aspect of characterization, and more unique expressions of that can link into a character's experiences, and by extension, motivations. I understand he isn't the most popular companion, but frankly, anyone that isn't willing to submit to the champion exclusively or have sex only with people the champion approves of aren't going to be topping popularity charts. So the actual quality of the character... sort of doesn't matter. You can see this with Cait, whose popularity is fairly lacking compared to how involved she is with the story. Etheryn will probably drop a few places if there isn't a way to impregnate her, because some people don't care for surrogacy (makes them think they were "cucked") and they don't want to be impregnated. My personal opinion is that I'd rather players have to conform at least to SOME degree to partners. If certain things are deal breakers, you don't "need to pursue relationships with those characters. Like, I wouldn't ever want Cait to become Monagomous or constrain her partners based on what players "approve of".

 

[Karakara]

Well...
Brienne should have straight up been a different character. She doesn't really resemble Brint... at all. The means with which you get her seem to have initially been intended to be the "corrrupt" thing to do, but people love waifus too much to make turning a character into one a "bad" thing to do. It feels like we got the worst of both worlds on that front. The link to Brint is questionable, but the game plays it like it's not, so there's not even an angle to enjoy it from an "intentional asshole point of view.

As far as Quinn goes, I actually think more picky NPCs is a pretty good way to flesh them out. Sexuality IS an aspect of characterization, and more unique expressions of that can link into a character's experiences, and by extension, motivations. I understand he isn't the most popular companion, but frankly, anyone that isn't willing to submit to the champion exclusively or have sex only with people the champion approves of aren't going to be topping popularity charts. So the actual quality of the character... sort of doesn't matter. You can see this with Cait, whose popularity is fairly lacking compared to how involved she is with the story. Etheryn will probably drop a few places if there isn't a way to impregnate her, because some people don't care for surrogacy (makes them think they were "cucked") and they don't want to be impregnated. My personal opinion is that I'd rather players have to conform at least to SOME degree to partners. If certain things are deal breakers, you don't "need to pursue relationships with those characters. Like, I wouldn't ever want Cait to become Monagomous or constrain her partners based on what players "approve of".

What was the second part response to?