Yeah that's been an issue through all three games; there's never been a manual of style about it and it's too late now. Something we will keep in mind for several years from now though.
Your gripes with CoC II
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You should be consistent. Don't switch back and forth in a given scene.
Also puns, dont forget puns, they are the most important part of writing in CoC2.
Did the wayfort repairs through Daliza and I have to admit that having champ bring up to the bailiff, completely unprompted, that the stockades could be put up so that people can fuck and get fucked in public was quite an odd choice for what is supposed to be the pure route.
Why does that matter? Being a pure champ surely doesn't make them any less into fetishes and kinks.
Putting people into the stockades is a pretty harsh thing to do, objectively speaking, but it should be consideredquite lenient compared to great many other period appropriate punishments.
Putting people into the stockades so that others can force themselves onto the prisoner is pretty darn corrupt if you ask me. Even being as sexually liberal as they are, most uncorrupted folks we meet would balk at the idea.
Having an entirely kink-based set of public stockades would be fine, but it would still raise a few eyebrows and be considered quite scandalous by most of the civilized people of the Marches.
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Needs to be more bimbo content/hive content. Hive be boring sometimes
Same reason why champ shouldn't just tell everyone they meet that they are the most beautiful person they've ever met, or proclaim their love after a single meeting, or many other things without the player clicking the button to do just that. It breaks immersion when the character's words don't match what the player wants. I get that it's not easy to cover every possible way a scene can go and that always going for the middle of the road option makes Champ a thoughtless blob but if there are extreme options on the table, then giving the player a choice of which they go for is better than just picking whichever you like and the player has to deal with it.
If this scene had an option whether to bring up the possible use of the stockades to Daliza instead of it being the default and only then it would've been fine.
Yeah, the problem here that most people seem to miss is that the Champ =/= the player. Savin lays it out neatly right here. There are some things that can be done with player input but a lot of things are going to be unprompted, such as the canonically pansexual Champ finding attractive all sexable characters regardless of what you headcanon for them.
Doesn't the winter city have sex stocks already anyway? Maybe it's a cultural thing. Who are we and Daliza to judge?
As a veteran Resident Evil player, boulders are fucking evil and should be punched to death. Only filthy boulder co-conspirators would mourn those sinister heaps of stone death and QTE's. I hate QTE's. As one should.
As a veteran Resident Evil player, boulders are fucking evil and should be punched to death. Only filthy boulder co-conspirators would mourn those sinister heaps of stone death and QTE's. I hate QTE's. As one should.
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I mean with the stocks who are we to judge.
Oh yeah those, leave the punching to Chris, and the knife throwing into little evil high pitched gnomes hands to Leon. Always carry a rocket launcher (when it doubt blow it to hell) and avoid those raspy breathing regenerators.
I misread the part after that when Daliza said she won't be accused of shaming anyone's sexual predilections. I thought she was referring to the champ and not the folks who are into exhibitionism. Still find it weird as to why champ would bring up how the stockades were used for a fun time back at the WC while it was a corrupted den of lust and depravity.
I am well aware of that, thank you. I don't mind the things the champ HAS to be in order for the game to function. More the small things that allow for personalization and help with immersion.
You're being very silly.
It's the only example of exhib that's even remotely relevant to this conversation and that could be brought up without doing a bunch of checks for whether Champ's, say, been to Khor'minos. Champ's initial comment isn't 100% clear, but reading the conversation as a whole, neither character is describing corrupt stuff as a particularly good idea.
I do have a problem with Daliza. When she asks you about renovating the Wayfort. She basically asks you "do you want me to explain it to you" and you are given 2 options. To accept her help or to go off on ypur own. Both lead to same dialogue.
Like, why give me an option if nothink changes? Why does this keep repeating?
Like, why give me an option if nothink changes? Why does this keep repeating?
Having people stuck in transition makes me kind of sad in a world where it's a solved problem. There are multiple characters who seem unhappy to have lost their girlparts but can't gain them back or need to be dedicked to do so, but I feel like in the very very least I should be able to wrangle Kass into fixing that problem if we're romancing. I feel like Ryn and Evelynn would be more than happy to get them for the PC (or maybe not, the characters could be very adverse to the idea!)
irl sucks and has limitations, but this is a sexy kinky fantasy world where these gross awful problems can be fixed and together we can reach the polyamorous futa dogpile utopia that everyone deserves
irl sucks and has limitations, but this is a sexy kinky fantasy world where these gross awful problems can be fixed and together we can reach the polyamorous futa dogpile utopia that everyone deserves
First off, welcome to the board. Second, you do not want to open the Pandora's Box that is suggesting Ryn should get a vagina. There are only so many ways that Savin can say he has utterly no interest in writing that and there are only so many ways that Ryn can say that she doesn't want a vagina and they've all been said long ago. She's not 'stuck in transition', she's fine with herself the way she was born. It's the way her sister treated her that's the problem, not her body.
Evelyn too is quite happy with her current situation and shows precisely no interest in trying to revert her body back to how it used to be.
In general, TFing characters is deliberately restricted to things that are set up from the start because it means writers only need to account for only so many variables and characters don't devolve into generic sucky garbage.
Evelyn grew to love her dick and all the delicious possibilities it opens for spoiling or disciplining her food boys and girls, that much is true. However she is very affirmed in her gender and I don't think that she would be adverse to the idea of growing back her old equipment to compliment the new. So it is mainly an issue of Wsan being busy as all hell and possibly having no interest in returning to Ev's content. Both can potentially be solved through a well funded commission.
Thanks, lurked a long while but mostly been messing around with the games way back to that dice roll body transformation flash where there was one button and it was random as to what you would get / what would multiply.
Sorry if it was a touchy subject (not the fun kind), I may have misunderstood the point of the thread to be venting or not understanding and didn't mean to come off like it was a demand of mine. I'm not one of those people who thinks the PC or any of the characters is mine or anything, all these games are expansive rpgs with many options which can trick people into thinking certain ways about what their ocs can do or push on others, or what other characters can be pushed into.
I guess from these games I'm a lot more used to seeing characters talked into getting male bodyparts or to enhance them, so at first my brain assumes "Ryn's feminine and can be a little subby, this seems like something she'd be ok with being talked into". But it's not my character, I don't really know how they think or where their hard lines are. Maybe because of how her sister treated her, she'll have the confidence to stand up to you and say she's not okay with growing a vagina for you, and that you'll have to bend for her if you're a male pc or just not have children together.
And though traditionally the whole corruption / purity aspect has played with blurring or deleting people's hard lines in the games whether it's changing gender or bending monogamy into full on voyeurism polyamory, I can understand if a writer has a hard barrier for their character.
As far as variables writing goes I can also understand, though at the risk of being too complainy I guess another gripe of mine would be that I personally prefer not a mile wide but inch deep for content, but that's mostly because (in large part due to these games) my ideal scenario is just all my companions in a pregnant lovey dogpile.
Anyway I hope that cleared up my intentions and train of thought a decent amount, and hopefully didn't bring up anything with too dark or spicy a conversation history
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Having a rough time following that, third party fanfiction ruined canon lore and made it not count? Or have there been too many people counting mods as canon during discussions or getting confused? Either way I didn't mean to have the specifics of it matter, just used an example of the different lines people have being moved .. I mean it's in the title of the series
Hopefully the rest of what I said wasn't derailed by the reference.
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The latter, mostly.
CoC2 is not a bubble created in a vacuum-it has been developed after previous events and circumstances, up and including CoC's Helspawn, creator rights and mods issues, TiTS' TF elements and how they impact (or not) in a game's code or scenes, the very size of scenes themselves... All those moments have left a mark in the way staff manages its contents, for better or worse.
CoC2 is not a bubble created in a vacuum-it has been developed after previous events and circumstances, up and including CoC's Helspawn, creator rights and mods issues, TiTS' TF elements and how they impact (or not) in a game's code or scenes, the very size of scenes themselves... All those moments have left a mark in the way staff manages its contents, for better or worse.
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At the risk of opening said pandora's box... Where does Ryn say she's opposed to having a vag?
Don't get me wrong, I understand and accept that the devs have no desire to make that content and I have no intention of pushing the idea, I just want to know if there's an instance of Ryn being directly opposed to the vagina or not. I know she doesn't want to lose the dick from her reaction when you suggest removing it to remove the cage but I don't recall anything about being specifically opposed to a vagina. Unless we're going with the idea that since the idea is never brought up it's implied that she has no desire for one. And no, I'm not trying to imply that her potentially not directly saying something means that there's no evidence that she would be opposed to it or anything, my brain's just hooked on the semantics of this.
Or a simple dialogue option like many other characters have it, honestly many times I have wondered why she does not have it
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