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Aurius

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There's your issue. A member of the writing team his explicitly said it won't happen and you're still trying to wishful think your way around it
Last word syndrome.

"I'm less attached to the character getting pregnancy content and more concerned that other characters, or future characters won't get pregnancy content in a smut game because one of the writers isn't willing to do it for one reason or another."
 

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Anyways. Back on topic; more customization options being shown in the dynamic bust image for Steele. Horns, hair, dicks, clothing, weapons etc.
 

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How am I coping?
buddy, i gave you an explanation as to why things are the way that they are and your response included "i refuse to acknowledge part of that reasoning". before i even started typing, you were given many other explanations. you started this conversation by trying to turn a hard no into a yes.

Finally; how does giving birth change the personality of the character? It's called character development.
i'll reiterate some of my explanation since your reading comprehension failed you again: it's character development in a direction that Savin does not want. a character getting stabbed could be character development. something horrible can happen to a character's significant other and it'll be character development. don't try and justify character development for the sake of character development.

Isn't there a dream Steele has
you mean a fantasy about something that is unrealistic in context? see also

If that is actually the reason he gives for why he doesn't like pregnancy content then it sounds more like he's hung up about a mistake HE made and is looking for a place to put blame. "I don't like writing in villains because this one time I wrote a villain that ruined a protagonist I liked" My guy, YOU wrote the character(s) that way.
are you saying that Savin made a mistake, Savin then blames himself for that mistake, and as a result Savin has decided to... not make that mistake again. and that's a bad thing.

Anyways. Back on topic; more customization options being shown in the dynamic bust image for Steele. Horns, hair, dicks, clothing, weapons etc.
this has been brought up many times and unfortunately involves an astronomical amount of work due to how customizable characters are.
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Aurius

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buddy, i gave you an explanation as to why things are the way that they are and your response included "i refuse to acknowledge part of that reasoning".

Cute strawman. Try reading why that doesn't make sense first before you respond to me. Again, complete lack of any reading comprehension.

before i even started typing, you were given many other explanations. you started this conversation by trying to turn a hard no into a yes.

No I started this conversation by challenging an idea a writer had. It was your own hiveminded community that decided it was set in stone for one reason or another and got triggered when someone asked a simple question that really only needed an answer from the writer. "I'll save you, my queen!" you all rushed fervently to shout! Such gallant heroes to defend a fully grown adult over the internet...

it's character development in a direction that Savin does not want. a character getting stabbed could be character development.

False equivalence fallacy. A stabbing is a straight forward plot device that rarely has any middle ground or room for change. Childbirth, especially within a fantasy setting like CoC, is not. Yes, you could say "I don't like my characters getting stabbed" because obviously that would kill them / wound them in most cases. But how someone reacts to child rearing is up to the writer to mold into something he deems appropriate. Even getting stabbed within the context of these fantasy settings like CoC could be written away using potion or magic logic. I didn't accept the line of reasoning that one thing that happened to one character barred an entire concept because I would expect better from a writer that has been writing non stop for almost the last decade. One would assume that a sex writer could write the logical conclusion to sex without it breaking the characters he forged.

you mean a fantasy about something that is unrealistic in context?

Nothing about any of these games is realistic, even within the contexts of the setting given every scientific hurdle is ignored. It's not even narratively realistic. Why is a mining company on a waste planet? Why is a fox woman having sex with someone she just met? How is everyone producing all this biomass without contracting any kind of cancer?
If you want to ignore all the other pieces of context that don't make sense to do something fun, then I don't see why you can't do the same here. It sounds like an artificial wall you have erected because of something someone has said.

are you saying that Savin made a mistake, Savin then blames himself for that mistake, and as a result Savin has decided to... not make that mistake again.

The mistake was the writing, not the concept. You're struggling really hard to use mental gymnastics in order to not acknowledge that someone made a writing mistake. He's not blaming himself, he's blaming a concept and has thus barred the concept in future characters as a knee-jerk reaction. None of this even matters at this point however as Savin has already said he won't do it even with any help. Which I would have been willing to do, BTW. I've written a bit of smut in my own time https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14317670/1/Soldier. Writing used to be my passion when I was growing up, but adulthood is realizing that writing doesn't pay as much as your English teacher from high school would make you believe.

this has been brought up many times and unfortunately involves an astronomical amount of work due to how customizable characters are.

Just use generic objects instead of being specific. Make short, medium and long hair all have the same preset for each length. Make every beard at any length look the same. Make jackets, suits, shirts and underwear all look the same for each archetype of clothing. Make horns all look the same. Basically, just use the preset icons used in the game menu and make that a template for the bust image. It would be better than what we have and from what I've seen in my previous runs + the one I'm on right now, it doesn't seem like it would take a whole lot of work.
 

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No I started this conversation by challenging an idea a writer had. It was your own hiveminded community that decided it was set in stone for one reason or another and got triggered when someone asked a simple question that really only needed an answer from the writer. "I'll save you, my queen!" you all rushed fervently to shout! Such gallant heroes to defend a fully grown adult over the internet....
At least on my end I was just pointing out that Savin hates pregnancy content and so wouldn't wanna write it even if you offered help. Now, I personally love pregnancy and shortstacks so he and I are definitely on different wavelengths to begin with. He's entitled to that of course. However, you are right that people here tend to simp for writers to an unreasonable degree and in my opinion you kind of have to walk on eggshells here as a result. Also, I'm just gonna say it as I've felt it for a long time. I think the hang ups that people like Savin and the Observer have about stuff that some of the community did back in the CoC1 days are very weird and immature. It feels pointlessly spiteful and like tilting at windmills. That's all I'll say, I'm bowing out now.
 

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Buddy, if Savin's multiple, well-documented denials that any of his characters would have unplanned pregnancy xpacs didn't stop you from asking for it and moving the goalposts, then either you haven't been paying attention or you're coping so hard that your username might as well be "Cope" like that one wrestler.
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And this, all of this, is pure, undiluted cope. I mean, my God, are you arguing to get what you want or are you arguing to win the argument at this point?
However, you are right that people here tend to simp for writers to an unreasonable degree and in my opinion you kind of have to walk on eggshells here as a result.
Maybe it's because I haven't been around as long as you, but I've seen plenty of people criticise the writing team without much pushback. Nay, some of them are flat out applauded if a writer or their work is especially controversial.
I think the hang ups that people like Savin and the Observer have about stuff that some of the community did back in the CoC1 days are very weird and immature. It feels pointlessly spiteful and like tilting at windmills.
I imagine being exposed to requests for content they didn't like for years on end will do that to a person.
 
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Lostname475

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However, you are right that people here tend to simp for writers to an unreasonable degree and in my opinion you kind of have to walk on eggshells here as a result.
How unusual that fans of the games like the people who make the content for the games, yes very odd indeed
 

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Maybe it's because I haven't been around as long as you, but I've seen plenty of people criticise the writing team without much pushback. Nay, some of them are flat out applauded if a writer or their work is especially controversial.

I imagine being exposed to requests for content they didn't like for years on end will do that to a person.
I'm not saying criticism doesn't happen, of course it does, but the simping does too. Look at how some people on here react at the barest hint of criticising certain writers and their work. And I still think the latter is childish regardless.
How unusual that fans of the games like the people who make the content for the games, yes very odd indeed
Buddy, if you can't see the difference between liking somebody in a reasonable way and simping for them then I don't really know what to tell ya. You're just proving my point.
 
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Aurius

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Buddy, if Savin's multiple, well-documented denials that any of his characters would have unplanned pregnancy xpacs didn't stop you from asking for it and moving the goalposts, then either you haven't been paying attention or you're coping so hard that your username might as well be "Cope" like that one wrestler.

Right because I must investigate everything someone has posted on the internet before I ask them a question. You kids really do simp for these writers lol. Can you even source these claims?

And this, all of this, is pure, undiluted cope. I mean, my God, are you arguing to get what you want or are you arguing to win the argument at this point?

Are you going to actually back up the statement you said or just reiterate yourself? What part of what I said was me coping and about what?

See this is the problem with fan-driven communities like these. If you ask a writer or developer a question you get jobless losers such as yourself jumping to vehemently defend someone you have a parasocial relationship with online, and if you don't know that Savin said Skibidi Toilet this date last year at exactly 2pm in the afternoon EST you all have a massive cortisol spike and start shooting steam out of your ears saying "grrrr he's already spoken about this"
 

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See this is the problem with fan-driven communities like these. If you ask a writer or developer a question you get jobless losers such as yourself jumping to vehemently defend someone you have a parasocial relationship with online, and if you don't know that Savin said Skibidi Toilet this date last year at exactly 2pm in the afternoon EST you all have a massive cortisol spike and start shooting steam out of your ears saying "grrrr he's already spoken about this"
You were politely informed of this the first time you asked. You were the one who decided to ignore that
 

Aurius

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You were politely informed of this the first time you asked. You were the one who decided to ignore that
Someone explaining the reasoning behind savin's aversion to having pregnancy content isn't "well-documented denials that any of his characters would have unplanned pregnancy xpacs".

You would think a community built around reading would have better reading comprehension.
 

Aurius

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few hours, rn trying to see if there are any ways to get ai/tts to read stuff without sounding like 1993 tts
Yeah the game is actually quite massive. They've been working on the game for a while. It would need to be some sort of automatic program that reads the text on the screen.
 

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I'm probably the only person in the room who'd even want this, but a way to de-bimbofy your steele. I only want to look like a new texan with the treatment, not be as brainless as one of them.
 

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I'm probably the only person in the room who'd even want this, but a way to de-bimbofy your steele. I only want to look like a new texan with the treatment, not be as brainless as one of them.
You can with the Doll Maker, but it only works for Ditz Speech. You can also just put pc.removePerk("Ditz Speech") (or "Brute Speech" for bulls) into the console, if you're fine with using the console.
 

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I'm not saying criticism doesn't happen, of course it does, but the simping does too. Look at how some people on here react at the barest hint of criticising certain writers and their work.
Honestly? I've seen plenty of simping for characters, but aside from dedicated appreciation threads I haven't seen anything like what you're talking about. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, or my brain has been so worn 0down by years of exposure to online drama that I just don't retain the long-term memory of it.

But if I had a Euro for every time someone has said how much they hate the kitsune for being too Japanese or too alienating to us bake gaijins for being outsiders, or Kiyoko specifically for being written for men with dicks first and foremost? I'd have at least a hundred by now. And don't get me started on Brienne.
And I still think the latter is childish regardless.
I dunno, man. Calling it "childish" sounds rather condescending. I'd call it a human reaction, which is neither simping nor disparaging and simply acknowledges that it's a strong emotional reaction anyone could have after enough needling.
See this is the problem with fan-driven communities like these. If you ask a writer or developer a question you get jobless losers such as yourself jumping to vehemently defend someone you have a parasocial relationship with online, and if you don't know that Savin said Skibidi Toilet this date last year at exactly 2pm in the afternoon EST you all have a massive cortisol spike and start shooting steam out of your ears saying "grrrr he's already spoken about this"
I'm storing this away for the next time you complain about someone not taking you seriously or being uncouth, because it's such a perfect encapsulation of everything you've brought to the thread: rudeness, entitlement, ad hominem insults and massive assumptions about the other people on the thread.

If your remarks weren't so broad and innaccurate, I might even be offended somehow but, no.
 

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Honestly? I've seen plenty of simping for characters, but aside from dedicated appreciation threads I haven't seen anything like what you're talking about. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, or my brain has been so worn 0down by years of exposure to online drama that I just don't retain the long-term memory of it.

But if I had a Euro for every time someone has said how much they hate the kitsune for being too Japanese or too alienating to us bake gaijins for being outsiders, or Kiyoko specifically for being written for men with dicks first and foremost? I'd have at least a hundred by now. And don't get me started on Brienne.

I dunno, man. Calling it "childish" sounds rather condescending. I'd call it a human reaction, which is neither simping nor disparaging and simply acknowledges that it's a strong emotional reaction anyone could have after enough needling.
Again, its usually when criticism is brought up, not all the time like I said, but it does happen. For all the people complaining about the too Japanese and gaijin stuff you mentioned there's plenty who actually like the controversy or downplay the issues with it, justifying it as good writing because its ''realistic'' (which is a whole other barrel of fish I won't get into it) or because its meant to piss you off therefore it accomplishes its job. But I don't really want to keep talking about this tbh as I think its not productive. People are free to disagree with me if they like, its just how I feel. You can feel its condescending but I think its accurate. If you're still holding grudges about stuff people did a decade ago, people who mostly aren't even here anymore and use that as justification to be salty towards your current fanbase, then that is childish plain and simple, not to mention unfair. At a certain point you need to grow up and let it go. A human reaction is crashing out if somebody keeps poking you. What's not a human reaction is taking it out on people who had nothing to do with the crashout years after the fact. I'm gonna drop this now as again I've said my piece and I don't think its gonna go anywhere. Plus I've derailed things enough as is.
 

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On second thought forget what I said before, what I'm REALLY after is a method of getting the "treated milk" perk that doesn't require jabbing myself with the treatment itself.

Maybe a small questline that involves a weaker or heavily-modified version of the drug that only affects the milk?
 
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On second thought forget what I said before, what I'm REALLY after is a method of getting the "treated milk" perk that doesn't require jabbing myself with the treatment itself.

Maybe a small questline that involves a weaker or heavily-modified version of the drug that only affects the milk?
Isn't that perk tied with the treatment epipen lore-wise, given its name?
 

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rudeness, entitlement, ad hominem insults and massive assumptions about the other people on the thread.

Hilarious that you would even have the gall to quote logical fallacies. Self awareness really isn't the strong suit of furries, but I didn't need this interaction to know that.
 

Aurius

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On second thought forget what I said before, what I'm REALLY after is a method of getting the "treated milk" perk that doesn't require jabbing myself with the treatment itself.

Maybe a small questline that involves a weaker or heavily-modified version of the drug that only affects the milk?
Gush and Bovinium. I also think there was a scientist that could "fix" you on Uveto years ago when I played this game for the first time. The Chimera guy that invented the microsurgeons you take at the start of the game. I don't remember his name and I don't know if that's still in the game however or if I'm remembering correctly. But I do remember there used to be a way to remove your brute speech, sexy thinking, weak mind etc perks.
 

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Gush and Bovinium. I also think there was a scientist that could "fix" you on Uveto years ago when I played this game for the first time. The Chimera guy that invented the microsurgeons you take at the start of the game. I don't remember his name and I don't know if that's still in the game however or if I'm remembering correctly. But I do remember there used to be a way to remove your brute speech, sexy thinking, weak mind etc perks.
Dr. Lash on Tarkus - he can remove breasts, genitals, and pretty much make the character sexless. Dr. Lessau, the chimera on Uvento, was the creator of the microsurgeons Steele has.

That raises an interesting question - what happens if Steele sees Lash after maxing out on Galomax? Does Lash say "There is no need for my services; absorb your own boobs, you bloated sack of protoplasm!" or does he still try to remove things?
 

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Gush and Bovinium. I also think there was a scientist that could "fix" you on Uveto years ago when I played this game for the first time. The Chimera guy that invented the microsurgeons you take at the start of the game. I don't remember his name and I don't know if that's still in the game however or if I'm remembering correctly. But I do remember there used to be a way to remove your brute speech, sexy thinking, weak mind etc perks.
I've skimmed the whole wiki and can't find anything about one of the science npcs removing any of the dumbifying perks in the game for you.
 

lopbat

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I've skimmed the whole wiki and can't find anything about one of the science npcs removing any of the dumbifying perks in the game for you.
I linked the Doll Maker page before, but to be more specific/explicit: if you do the Pexiga quest (unlocked through recruiting Yammi) and unlock Doctor Badger's Doll Maker, you can use it to get a small dose of IQ-B-GONE that removes Ditz Speech after it wears off regardless of the perk source. This is, afaik, the only way to remove it without console commands/save editing.