I'm not against just making him a dickless female, but this is TiTs we're talking about lmao
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I still have no clue how anything you've said was relevant to what I said. Also, based on how the quote text you put there was in Spanish, that you're using a translator, and I'm not quite sure of what the quality of that translator would be, but I feel it may have caused a misunderstanding. Even with a misunderstanding though, I'm not sure how your statements were related to what I said. My original statement was that Kase was comfortable being who he is. You responded with "you're looking at this wrong, he is normal" (that is, of course, a paraphrase). I then questioned how your statement changes anything about what I had said previously. Your response was to essentially repeat that it's normal for Kaithrit to be like this, while other races aren't as commonly like this. I still do not understand how your statements relate to my own.
I'm saying that because he's one of the very few males we can have as crew as is without that being nixed into making him just another standard big titty catgirl, dick or not. Though I know my shitty opinion doesn't matter here.
So, from this, I assume you mean that your plans involve Kase keeping a cock and not getting a pussy, but also being genderfluid and accepting pronouns changing? It'd be quite a bunch of work to also have a whole extra parser added just for Kase's pronouns to be added and go in and replace every spot where "he" and "his" and the like are used in his work and swap it out for the parser to choose between the male pronoun and female pronoun. Nothing against feminization, but honestly I feel like he ought to remain using male pronouns, regardless of if he's genderfluid or comfortable in being a very feminine male. Plus it'd make for a lot less work and not change that much.
Also I don't want one of the few men in this game to be turned into yet another girl with a dick. Nothing against dickgirls, I like them a lot and most of my favorite characters are women with cocks, but there's a ton of them and so few males, regardless of genital configuration, so even if he gets feminized appearance-wise and gets tits bigger than that of a serial Gush abuser's I'd still prefer for him to use male pronouns.
I don't think I've seen anything that suggests that people just assuming he's submissive bothers him. Heck, I don't think I've seen scenes where people assume he's submissive, but I feel that if anyone were assume that, they'd do so much more for how he acts than how he would look if he were, say, standing up straight with a calm and reassured expression on his face.
Liamme is another femboy who you can meet (written by the same author as Kase, HugsAlright), and he specifically is an Ausar (another race seeming to largely be submissive, especially towards humans) and also feminine enough that Steele mistakes him for a woman, unlike Kase. However, Lia doesn't really appear overtly submissive. While he is on the bottom a decent amount of the time, whether he's laying down while sticking his dick in Steel, lying down and taking dick, or kneeling and sucking, there is not actually much in the way of submission. And it's never assumed that he's submissive by anyone, nor would I, personally, look at him and think "he's submissive."
Despite how he has the same factors as Kase in regards to being a generally "submissive" race and also being a femboy, what really makes a person's view is the attitude. Lia is confident, self-assured, stands up straight with a calm face, doesn't get nervous around others, smiles wide on first meeting, does not stutter or pause when talking outside of a few small moments where normal people would pause to think, and is rather openly flirtatious. Kase stutters, takes pauses in his speech (represented by ellipses), easily excitable and yet lost without being given direction on what he ought to do, gets nervous when someone gets close, doesn't seem to flirt at all. Honestly he's kind of just, like, anxious, but in a manner which makes him appear submissive.
So unless the mods which change him also make him more confident, less stuttery, less excitable and more stable- Essentially, unless the mods entirely eliminate who he is as a person in addition to changing his outside appearance, people would still assume he's a sub. Whether someone looks like him, or a big, hulking man with arms wider than my body, or Jessica Rabbit, they'd be more likely to be seen as and assumed to be submissive if they act the way he does than if they looked like him and moved with confidence and stability.
And given all that, I seriously doubt that people assume that he's submissive because of his race and femininity. Because if it was, then it'd be much more likely to assume Lia as submissive too, yet that isn't the case, and Kase has never mentioned anything about being seen as submissive due to appearance and race. Hell, the view of Ausar as submissive is something commonly applied by other races onto the Ausar, but when it comes to Kaithrit, the view of Kaithrit males as being weaker and more submissive than Kaithrit female is something only done by other Kaithrit. The Codex, while talking about the history of how males were kept down and patronized and how this came to a head when they were barred from being able to get spaceship licensees because the culture viewed Kaithrit males as too "fragile" to handle piloting, it says this:
The anti male cat bigotry is something perpetuated primarily by the female cats on their home planet, and not by people who aren't on that home planet. Kase, having grown up on a colony with very few other Kaithrit, would have not been exposed to the sort of bigotry that assumes he's submissive for immutable factors aside from his submissiveness.
And even aside from all of that, I don't think that Kase would want to change assumptions about himself. As I said, he's comfortable with who he is, even if he's also a very anxious person, because there is no indication that he would want to change himself. He likes to be told what to do, and he likes to be pampered, and that's the sort of things that can be helped by having this outward assumption.
Tl:dr: Anyone who would assume Kase to be submissive would do so specifically because of how he acts and not because of how he looks (aside from, of course, how acting impacts appearance). The only way modwork would change an assumption of submissiveness would be to entirely erase his personality and swap it with another, and that would be effective entirely independent of his appearance, which can be shown in how Lia, who is much more feminine and also part of a race that other races are actually shown to describe as inherently more submissive, does not ever seem to get assumed as being submissive, while having a much more confident personality than Kase. The only people who seem to automatically assume Kaithrit males are submissive are Kaithrit females who live on the Kaithrit homeworld, and as Kase grew up on a colony with only two other Kaithrit on it compared to many more people of other races, it would be unlikely to have been faced with assumptions of submission on the basis of non-personality appearance factors.
The men have all left for another dimension, one that caters to androphilic tastes. /s
In all seriousness though, I can't wait for the WIP male crewmembers. It would be a nice addition.
TheShepard256
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People seem to be operating under the assumption that my plans only include feminisation. They do not; masculinising him is also an option I'll include and it will be equally viable to feminising him (aside from a titfuck scene that inherently requires him to have large breasts); in fact, both routes mirror each other stat-wise (and are reversible).
Another thing to note is that this is all on the off chance I actually gain the writing skills, experience and permissions necessary to write all this, and me not being my usual lazy self. It also certainly won't be my first project; I realise that with how inexperienced I am, I need to start small and work my way up from there.
For the no-vag bit: he's capable of impregnating Steele, which means he isn't on any form of contraceptives; thus, if he got a vagina, he would be capable of being impregnated. As such, if I wrote giving him a vagina, then I would also have to write Steele impregnating him. I'm not 100% opposed to doing so, but that's still at least two more things to account for across his entire content.
For TFing him at all: I like him, but he's physically more 'boy' than 'fem' and as a gynesexual I'm not really into that. Feminising him would bring more in line with what I find attractive without changing his character. I decided to include masculinising him since there are relatively few masculine NPCs and even fewer masculine crew members, so having that option would be nice for androsexuals and, since I'd have to add gender-related parsers to all of his content anyways, wouldn't add too much to my workload (certainly nowhere near as much as impregnating him would).
And as for half-huskarising him: Anno and Erra can already be huskarised, there are plans to do similar to Kiro, and some (including myself) have expressed interest in seeing the same for Syri as part of her crew content. It seems to be a running theme in TiTS. Plus, I find hybrids sexy, especially ausar-kaithrit ones.
I understand that these are not to everyone's tastes, but that's kind of unavoidable in a community as diverse as this one.
And the 'submissive once defeated' bit is pretty standard when it comes to TiTS regardless of the defeated party's race, sex or gender.
Another thing to note is that this is all on the off chance I actually gain the writing skills, experience and permissions necessary to write all this, and me not being my usual lazy self. It also certainly won't be my first project; I realise that with how inexperienced I am, I need to start small and work my way up from there.
For the gender-fluid bit: because it's the only good reason I can think of he (or anyone else, for that matter) would accept both masculinising and feminising TFs.
For the no-vag bit: he's capable of impregnating Steele, which means he isn't on any form of contraceptives; thus, if he got a vagina, he would be capable of being impregnated. As such, if I wrote giving him a vagina, then I would also have to write Steele impregnating him. I'm not 100% opposed to doing so, but that's still at least two more things to account for across his entire content.
For TFing him at all: I like him, but he's physically more 'boy' than 'fem' and as a gynesexual I'm not really into that. Feminising him would bring more in line with what I find attractive without changing his character. I decided to include masculinising him since there are relatively few masculine NPCs and even fewer masculine crew members, so having that option would be nice for androsexuals and, since I'd have to add gender-related parsers to all of his content anyways, wouldn't add too much to my workload (certainly nowhere near as much as impregnating him would).
And as for half-huskarising him: Anno and Erra can already be huskarised, there are plans to do similar to Kiro, and some (including myself) have expressed interest in seeing the same for Syri as part of her crew content. It seems to be a running theme in TiTS. Plus, I find hybrids sexy, especially ausar-kaithrit ones.
I understand that these are not to everyone's tastes, but that's kind of unavoidable in a community as diverse as this one.
His personality wouldn't change a bit, and his cock would only change upon half-huskarising him, but my current plan is to have him be a 'he' while at his initial state and more masculine, and a 'she' at more feminine, regardless of breast size. I could build in a toggle for which pronouns he goes by while feminine and at B-cups or below (the maximum he can reach due to lactation, but less than the C-cups he'd gain from the second round of feminisation); I'm planning on making a new parser for this content, so I could just include the toggle's effects in that parser with relatively little fuss.
I don't put much stock in the idea that race is a strong determinant of personality, so I believe 'kaithrit males are submissive' is a stereotype and the norm for Roshan society (and its offshoots) rather than something inherently true. Even if kaithrit males are, on average, more submissive than non-kaithrit males, I still believe it's wrong to assume that someone is submissive based solely on them being a kaithrit male.
And the 'submissive once defeated' bit is pretty standard when it comes to TiTS regardless of the defeated party's race, sex or gender.
Ah. I'm not really a people person, so I didn't consider that. Guess I'll just drop that point, then; it wasn't too important, anyways.
Noted, but the changes I'm planning would necessitate me going over and modifying all of his content anyways; a lot of it refers to him as a femboy, but that term wouldn't apply if he's sufficiently masculine or feminine.
I did see the masculinisation thing. Given that you've mentioned dropping the thing about how he'd be doing it because he wants to avoid assumptions, it doesn't matter too much, but the bulk of the points I made would be the same whether it was just feminisation, just masculinisation, or both, as you currently plan.
Also a note on permissions, I mentioned how Kase was written by HugsAlright. If you happen to know about Hugs, well, he isn't writing for either game anymore. The transfer of his CoC2 project, Berwyn, was handled, but in regards to his other stuff, they're already essentially finished so I feel like they're probably in a state where they're just assumed as "don't touch." I don't know, of course, and you could probably ask Fen about that, but that's what I presently assume.
Yeah. I think you already got it from what I said, but the stereotype, while existing amongst people on Rosha, was also subject to an entire social movement demanding men's rights due to the oppression the expectations/stereotypes were placing on the men, and while many fit into the stereotype, many others actively went against it. The codex also mentions this movement flaring during the Great Exodus, which is when the Kaithrit and U.G.C. came into contact. That was the "males weren't allowed licenses" thing I mentioned, and around that time it both strengthened the homeworld movement for equality and involved some Kaithrit males stowing away on ships and stealing others to get out. There is a reason why the view is primarily applied to Rosha itself. Even in kaithrit groups that aren't on Rosha, the traditionalist view is much weaker, and given that the GE is when the most Kaithrit left Rosha, I doubt there'd be particularly many Kaithrit that Kase could meet who'd engage in the stereotype on the homeworld.
What's that thing where a slight guy is gently dommed by a larger woman? That, plus mind control. Maybe with a school/teacher theme.
Just soft femdom. It's a very popular kink but isn't particularly well serviced.
I think the only thing like it in the game (that I've seen) is Azra's mommydom scene, though my preference is for the sub to be a girl, with or without cock. Would be delightful to have more of it.
Lone Wolf115
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Going off stuff for Kase, I think the threesome with Anno really turned me onto the idea of urging Kase to be a bit more dom. Maybe not full dom but definitely more of what he showed in the threesome scene if you decide to be submissive in it. It'd be an interesting angle to play for him and honestly, dom femboys can be hot. Another thing involving Kase...why does he not have a single scene with Ramis if they are on the same ship? He's kinda literally her dream toy (ya know outside of us if we're that.), super cute boy with a nice dick. Could have a threesome there too. Just, this is a pairing that needs just a little content in my opinion.
On the topic of Ramis, I feel like there's room for her to have some kink content I think is a little lacking in TiTs, maybe cause not everyone is keen on it. But she really does have a couple openings for some cuckold content. Not like the hard, mean type. But the kind where you're both into it and both agree to boundaries. Like it could just be more scenes with Oskharn. You just sit and watch him plow Ramis into a stupor, clean him off when he's done. I don't know, I feel like the pieces are there. But that could just be me.
On the topic of Ramis, I feel like there's room for her to have some kink content I think is a little lacking in TiTs, maybe cause not everyone is keen on it. But she really does have a couple openings for some cuckold content. Not like the hard, mean type. But the kind where you're both into it and both agree to boundaries. Like it could just be more scenes with Oskharn. You just sit and watch him plow Ramis into a stupor, clean him off when he's done. I don't know, I feel like the pieces are there. But that could just be me.
Lone Wolf115
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I have honey cum from zil pregnancy it doesn't work and all of the side effects aren't worth it. So maybe some TF that just focuses on that and breast milk. I have nothing against this stuff but it's just me.
Lone Wolf115
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Lone Wolf115
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Tried that with pussybloom. For some reason still had honey cum. I'm gonna try it let you know if it works. No it did not but thanks anyway.
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Lone Wolf115
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Thank you so fucking much. It's a bit of a pain reloading a save before the TF to make sure I don't lose ears or tails but worth it.
12: Allow 'Sexual Transformatives' to affect 'Tail-Genital' for example: Bumpy Road, Knot A Problem, Muffstick and Turtleneck Cream.
I think it would be funny if, when Steele is a scaly race and talks to Sera about furries, they would launch into a rant about how scalies are different from furries
(Silly mode exclusive?)
(Silly mode exclusive?)
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Lone Wolf115
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I meant it probably would be a silly mode thing
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Lone Wolf115
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So do you think Shade's daughter (sorry can't remember her name) could become sexable? Or at least become friends.. yeah I know about incest but that doesn't stop the creators/writers putting the content in. (Shade, Axyn and possibly Syri and Anno in the future in TiTs.. Liresh and her twin sister, Meira and Senja, Oxana and her many daughters (or so we presume/assume?) And possible Brienne and her sister in the future In CoC2)
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The thing about not being able to get at Astra is less about the potential incestuousness (some versions of Steele won't even know that Shade's their half-sister), but rather because Shade would (try to) break Steele in half, dismember them, and dump their chunks on some ocean planet if Steel tried anything.
TheShepard256
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Actually, if she's in the 'friend' state but not the 'sister' or 'lover' states, the tooltip for Shade's first-time Uveto meeting says:
To me, this implies Shade would approve of, if not encourage, Steele X Astra in this case. The last time I pointed this out, Savin could have said that Astra would not be sexable, but he didn't (he replied to someone else in the same thread, so I'm pretty sure he saw me point it out). As such, I assume this implication is intended and thus correct, and Astra is indeed planned to be sexable under certain conditions.
There are also some comments in Shade's code (presumably Savin's dev notes) that I think are relevant:
These pretty much confirm that Astra is planned to have content even if her mother's content is mostly or entirely inaccessible; furthermore, since Shade can't or won't introduce Steele to Astra in either of these cases, it further implies that Astra is planned to be accessible without going through her mother. In the event that Astra can be accessed without meeting Shade at all (which is unconfirmed but possible), chances are Shade would see it as her daughter getting a particularly rich and badass [pc.boyGirl]friend, and she'd at worst make an "if you do anything to hurt her" threat.
The real question is if all this stuff is still relevant. Remember plans can possibly change, we don't know how Astra's actual involvement in the game (if any) will actually be written, and code notes aren't always solid.