What content would you like added?

[LeDoraggo]

So, i completed LumiaQuest recently in my new save, and i noticed that, should you get all of the sword shards on the castle, Tui asks Lumia to allow her to keep the dreamblade to study it, to which Lumia accepts. However, after that, there's no further mention of said convo nor the sword on the rest of the game.
So, maybe it would be nice if the action of keeping the sword could affect Tui's combat. Not necesarily giving us the fabled "Atugia third companion set" necesarily, but maybe even something as small as an upgrade to her base set, like a damage modifier, would be nice (kind of like the rimebound grimoire/ring of heat upgrades for Cait or the crown of winter upgrade to Ryn)

 

[orropo]

So, i completed LumiaQuest recently in my new save, and i noticed that, should you get all of the sword shards on the castle, Tui asks Lumia to allow her to keep the dreamblade to study it, to which Lumia accepts. However, after that, there's no further mention of said convo nor the sword on the rest of the game.
So, maybe it would be nice if the action of keeping the sword could affect Tui's combat. Not necesarily giving us the fabled "Atugia third companion set" necesarily, but maybe even something as small as an upgrade to her base set, like a damage modifier, would be nice (kind of like the rimebound grimoire/ring of heat upgrades for Cait or the crown of winter upgrade to Ryn)

and the holy white bow also

 

[LeDoraggo]

and the holy white bow also

True, don't know why i forgor about it

 

[Slyzo]

Look. I know Rindo has already had an expansion and new content added every now and again.....

But is it wrong to ask for more? I always wanted to have her as a wife rather than a concubine but the game really made it sound like it wouldn't be possible because then the champion would have to pay child support.

 

[Karakara]

I don't see why not. I thought that it was just because Kitsune do not tend to marry with someone that's not one of them that she was relegated to only being a concubine, but with Kiyoko marrige and Tetsuya's in the future, I would like if we could do it.

Especially if it means that I could make Rindo happy. Still hurts that her "happy" bust and outlook on life are locked behind pregnancy.

 

[MakoBlade]

I just thought of something. Kiyoko used her tails to basically pin us down when we get intimate, couldn't we do the same? I thought of this remembering the grouping tenticles skill you get from that girthy staff weapon from the south.

 

[MakoBlade]

Back to my Rapier comment I remembered, there IS one in the game! Raphael, the asshole I want to hunt down for daring to attack my children has one. So, when can THAT happen?! Both getting his weapon, and hanging him up by his entrails in the Old Forest as a warning for anyone else being stupid enough to try something like that again.

 

[Piratemaster1324]

Back to my Rapier comment I remembered, there IS one in the game! Raphael, the asshole I want to hunt down for daring to attack my children has one. So, when can THAT happen?! Both getting his weapon, and hanging him up by his entrails in the Old Forest as a warning for anyone else being stupid enough to try something like that again.

As far as rapiers are concerned, I assume someone has to want to write for it, and it has to get accepted. As for wanting to have a nice conversation with Raphael about his introduction to your family, sadly the champion can't do anything about that. Kinu is supposed to be the one who deals with him.

 

[Ace Hangman]

I think the main reason is that the tech level for rapiers is not common, at least in the Frost Marches. Most forging is bronze age, with ironwork in a few places, like Kitsuhon and some alloys in Khor'minos, but for the most part, needing to punch through chainmail and such isn't an issue, and in this world when you need harder (or harder-hitting) weapons, you use magic to enchant them (or spells on the person to make them stronger).

I know Raphael uses a rapier in CoC 1, I am not sure this is the same Raphael specifically though (could be), he's obviously based on him. It's not impossible for there to be a rapier, since portals open and drop things into Savarra all the time. I just don't believe that it's a very common thing to find in a shop or something. Strictly speaking, if someone needed a character to use a rapier... there's no in-game reason it can't have fallen through a portal (or the person carrying it did), but I don't think it's something any of the nearby kingdoms would have developed. I don't see any mention of rapiers in CoC 2 wiki (other than saying Galon's Griefmaker is made to thrust like a rapier). I can't easily go to Raphael's fight and see what his normal attack shows as to double check what his sword is called.

 

[Nino]

I think the main reason is that the tech level for rapiers is not common, at least in the Frost Marches. Most forging is bronze age, with ironwork in a few places, like Kitsuhon and some alloys in Khor'minos, but for the most part, needing to punch through chainmail and such isn't an issue, and in this world when you need harder (or harder-hitting) weapons, you use magic to enchant them (or spells on the person to make them stronger).

I know Raphael uses a rapier in CoC 1, I am not sure this is the same Raphael specifically though (could be), he's obviously based on him. It's not impossible for there to be a rapier, since portals open and drop things into Savarra all the time. I just don't believe that it's a very common thing to find in a shop or something. Strictly speaking, if someone needed a character to use a rapier... there's no in-game reason it can't have fallen through a portal (or the person carrying it did), but I don't think it's something any of the nearby kingdoms would have developed. I don't see any mention of rapiers in CoC 2 wiki (other than saying Galon's Griefmaker is made to thrust like a rapier). I can't easily go to Raphael's fight and see what his normal attack shows as to double check what his sword is called.

I think it's funny that CoC1 has canonically progressed further in civilization technology than CoC2 because of the Gods-War knocking the entire world back to the Bronze Age, which is no place for rapiers nor other more advanced and nuanced weapons to exist.

 

[orropo]

really those gods did more bad then good

 

[Tarnakus]

I think it's funny that CoC1 has canonically progressed further in civilization technology than CoC2 because of the Gods-War knocking the entire world back to the Bronze Age, which is no place for rapiers nor other more advanced and nuanced weapons to exist.

I don't think we have enough information to accurately compare civilization progress between planets with or without a Gods-War. How long did life exist on both worlds? Was there any other technology diffusion from other worlds? Etc.

Now for some historical nerd stuff - don't take it personally, as this is not popular knowledge and most of this time period is skimmed over in schools. I believe in authors creative vision and fantasy is absolutely the place to divergent from history or science or both - but fans should be aware and not take it as some historically accurate game. So yeah the arguments that X should or shouldn't be in game because of history are straight up wrong. It’s more about what the devs want to add

CoC2 is one of the most anachronistic fantasy worlds I've seen. There is very little historical Bronze Age here. A few good examples: Vitruvius, for whom Balak did research and it shows; advanced waterworks (yes, they are ancient despite popular belief); and the Minoans, but the name as they were a legitimate Bronze Age civilization otherwise in game they are Romans. Everything else is from other periods, just slapped with bronze as a "worse" metal than iron, which in reality is not true.

The whole idea that a "Gods-War" would regress civilization is flawed because it is the exact opposite of what happened in our history: a huge civilization upheaval (the Bronze Age Collapse) forced people around the Mediterranean to adopt iron. The "iron is progress" idea is one that holds only if you know about steel (around 2,000 years after the collapse) and our general historical trajectory. But from the POV of a person during the collapse, it was a fight for survival and using a worse alternative (yes, worse). Early iron production was decentralized, which was a big reason why it stuck and would be really difficult to "forget" or "lose". Technologies that are lost are the ones connected with luxury or secrets, not basic survival.

Above is only true for Middle East, Egypt and Greece - China had a lot less dramatic transition. In reality civilization on Earth, at certain point, NEEDS to use Iron - because of it abundance and rarity of other materials.

For weapons, there were swords that we today call Bronze Age "rapiers" - thrusting bronze swords that were, of course, a lot shorter than anything from the 16th century onwards.

Here, the additional problem is naming. The names of weapons and classifications used today are modern inventions; in reality, all weapons were handmade and would differ from one to another. What we call a "short sword" today, for example, the Roman gladius, would have just been a gladius so, just a "sword" to a Roman. Similarly with rapiers, in Italy they were just called "spada", which again just means "sword". This is despite "rapier" being a period English term, which shows the complete lack of standardization in historical periods. Not to mention, even English rapiers evolved, starting as cut-and-thrust weapons and ending as blades with which you could barely cut. The line between a sword and rapier was blurry and sometimes more based on usage than characteristics.

Bronze age is quite the underestimate period of our history. Bronze Age civilization built the pyramids (2560 BC), and it took almost 4,000 years before humanity constructed another building of comparable height - the Lincoln Cathedral in England (tall spire added in 1311), which later collapsed not long after its completion. After that, the next major leap was the Eiffel Tower (1889). Note - ofc building a tall structure is just but a one piece of overall technological level.
Some examples of bronze age weapon and armour.
Sword is from Britain and is 60cm long (photo is is quite zoomed) dated c.1400-1275 B.C

Spoiler

Dendra panoply Greece dated 1500 B.C

Spoiler

 

[orropo]

i think. and this sounds severe but i think a war of eldeitch proporions is severe enough for it, it literally sucked up the lands iron resources, or at least it sucked the resources up to the level the civilization could get to in the ground, or maybe its a diamonds thing, its actually abundans but the prominent families and rich people keep the supply low so its price is way too disproportionate then what it would actually fetch if the supply wasnt tampered with, so most people dont even bother to work with iron anymore because too much effort too little reward, add to that the fact that most of the characters in major places we interact with are not nobles, or roman citizens, they are european commoners or japanese refugees, so the progress we see, or dont see, isnt really a show of the wide world itself

 

[orropo]

that and a city of elves whose coffers were emptied and obility destroyed, so you really dont see any actual thriving civilization except khorminos, which cant really be compared to any other place we went to

 

[Tarnakus]

think. and this sounds severe but i think a war of eldeitch proporions is severe enough for it, it literally sucked up the lands iron resources, or at least it sucked the resources up to the level the civilization could get to in the ground, or maybe its a diamonds thing

And why it only sucked iron and not copper and tin??? Obviously if you push enough magic you will solve any plot hole

they are european commoners or japanese refugees

yes and they exactly would use low quality iron - not expensive bronze and that is the whole problem - you see even Emperor of Rome was depicted with BRONZE breastplate as a status symbol well deep into Iron Age.

That is the whole problem on our planet Iron become the shity and less expensive metal and that's why we stick with it. Japanese is even worse example - they skipped "Bronze Age" -> Japan got introduced to both in same time and iron become the go to for tools and weapons and bronze for expensive and ceremonial stuff.

I will repeat myself iron working historically was DECENTRALIZE when the bronze trade was CENTRALIZED -> that means this nobles could control bronze but not iron. And even so it would be counterproductive -> cuz they would starved without giving tools to farmers

Khor'Minos and Winter City are both a different can of historical problems

Just to be clear I have no issue that CoC2 is such anachronistic game and frankly idea of this regression is interesting one, sadly at least early on it was not researched. So there is no need to play this defense

Because you see even people in Savara didn't get the memo they work with bronze. Ogrish introduction:

Spoiler

You see the problem is working with bronze is a completely different story than working with iron - and sure you can use hammer but only at the very very end to COLD forge. The guy not only works with horseshoe (which btw is 1000 AD so 2000 years after bronze age) he also quench it you do not do that with bronze. Bronze is cast - you pour liquid metal into form and wait to cool down naturally and then you can cold forge (metal is of room temperature) it - so hammer it and it is way less intensive than with Iron. Ogrish clearly works with recolored iron here.

Frankly even his face forgot he should work with bronze -> the black thing on his cg (yeah yeah I know CG are supposedly not cannon) is either coal (which is not needed to work with bronze and would be overkill) or forge scale which are IRON oxides...

 

[Nino]

I don't think we have enough information to accurately compare civilization progress between planets with or without a Gods-War. How long did life exist on both worlds? Was there any other technology diffusion from other worlds? Etc.

Now for some historical nerd stuff - don't take it personally, as this is not popular knowledge and most of this time period is skimmed over in schools. I believe in authors creative vision and fantasy is absolutely the place to divergent from history or science or both - but fans should be aware and not take it as some historically accurate game. So yeah the arguments that X should or shouldn't be in game because of history are straight up wrong. It’s more about what the devs want to add

CoC2 is one of the most anachronistic fantasy worlds I've seen. There is very little historical Bronze Age here. A few good examples: Vitruvius, for whom Balak did research and it shows; advanced waterworks (yes, they are ancient despite popular belief); and the Minoans, but the name as they were a legitimate Bronze Age civilization otherwise in game they are Romans. Everything else is from other periods, just slapped with bronze as a "worse" metal than iron, which in reality is not true.

The whole idea that a "Gods-War" would regress civilization is flawed because it is the exact opposite of what happened in our history: a huge civilization upheaval (the Bronze Age Collapse) forced people around the Mediterranean to adopt iron. The "iron is progress" idea is one that holds only if you know about steel (around 2,000 years after the collapse) and our general historical trajectory. But from the POV of a person during the collapse, it was a fight for survival and using a worse alternative (yes, worse). Early iron production was decentralized, which was a big reason why it stuck and would be really difficult to "forget" or "lose". Technologies that are lost are the ones connected with luxury or secrets, not basic survival.

Above is only true for Middle East, Egypt and Greece - China had a lot less dramatic transition. In reality civilization on Earth, at certain point, NEEDS to use Iron - because of it abundance and rarity of other materials.

For weapons, there were swords that we today call Bronze Age "rapiers" - thrusting bronze swords that were, of course, a lot shorter than anything from the 16th century onwards.

Here, the additional problem is naming. The names of weapons and classifications used today are modern inventions; in reality, all weapons were handmade and would differ from one to another. What we call a "short sword" today, for example, the Roman gladius, would have just been a gladius so, just a "sword" to a Roman. Similarly with rapiers, in Italy they were just called "spada", which again just means "sword". This is despite "rapier" being a period English term, which shows the complete lack of standardization in historical periods. Not to mention, even English rapiers evolved, starting as cut-and-thrust weapons and ending as blades with which you could barely cut. The line between a sword and rapier was blurry and sometimes more based on usage than characteristics.

Bronze age is quite the underestimate period of our history. Bronze Age civilization built the pyramids (2560 BC), and it took almost 4,000 years before humanity constructed another building of comparable height - the Lincoln Cathedral in England (tall spire added in 1311), which later collapsed not long after its completion. After that, the next major leap was the Eiffel Tower (1889). Note - ofc building a tall structure is just but a one piece of overall technological level.
Some examples of bronze age weapon and armour.
Sword is from Britain and is 60cm long (photo is is quite zoomed) dated c.1400-1275 B.C

Spoiler

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Dendra panoply Greece dated 1500 B.C

Spoiler

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I'm definitely not reading all of that just to let you know that my source is directly from Kasyrra and many other npc's/lore bits scattered throughout the game

 

[Marsproject]

Oh I had a fun scene idea...

How about a scene where the PC and Etheryn can essentially force Alissa to watch them make proper love right in front of her all the while taunting the former queen about how not she'll NEVER get to touch Etheryn ever again. Alissa rants and rages but can't help getting hard and at higher levels of submission she openly masturbates to the PC's and Etheryn's lovemaking.

How about scenes or actions that make Etheryn more dominant as well? Maybe perhaps have a day long scene where they force endowed PC lovers to wear her old chastity cage but just for the scene length.

Also perhaps giving Etheryn items to increase dick size, ball size or increase virility to one day impregnate the PC.

 

[PalletTown]

I want an updated room description for the lower watch tower when Meira moves in, preferably taking into consideration the different decorations used.

Also, Komari preg when?

 

[LeDoraggo]

Kinda reduntant. i know, but now that Olivia content is finally here, there should be a silly mode scene where the pc asks her why it took her so long to reach the Wayfort and it's implied she got lost along the way but won't outright admit it to them

 

[nwb3]

Lady evergreen needs a nice submission bad end once shes hit you with all her transformations and youve become her perfect broodmare.
Marefolk shamans should be able to impregnate PC.
Less focus on anal.

 

[Nino]

Less focus on anal.

Look at Savin's title and make that request again lol

 

[Charity]

i think. and this sounds severe but i think a war of eldeitch proporions is severe enough for it, it literally sucked up the lands iron resources, or at least it sucked the resources up to the level the civilization could get to in the ground, or maybe its a diamonds thing, its actually abundans but the prominent families and rich people keep the supply low so its price is way too disproportionate then what it would actually fetch if the supply wasnt tampered with, so most people dont even bother to work with iron anymore because too much effort too little reward, add to that the fact that most of the characters in major places we interact with are not nobles, or roman citizens, they are european commoners or japanese refugees, so the progress we see, or dont see, isnt really a show of the wide world itself

Iirc it was said multiple times that A) Before Godswar Steel was already common af. After it knowledge was "lost". Where? B) Nareva actually, un-ironically, fucking GATEKEEP ANY knowledge she deem dangerous for mortals to have.

This is one of extra reasons to see how useless Seven are*. Kass brought MAGI-TECH ffs. She know how to use it AND improve it. She should be priority target for Nareva from moment she do portal in Winter City. This tech is WAY beyond that she deem dangerous. Also she seems to either have surplus or knowledge in runecraft too.

Kitsune Steel also kinda terrible, just like irl Japane. Is it extreemly good technic? Yes. Is quality of their iron even lower than rest of the worl? Also yes. Would be funny if then Blacksmith actually apear she will be happy to work with decent iron lol (JP also BAN making of their swords with high quality steel)

*iirc we have only one who at least has exuse, said exuse being "I'm idiot" but still - Lumia and her plan of

Spoiler: her quest spoiler

keeping Wraith

so close to her.

 

[Charity]

Someday I break and try to write long ass submission about Alraune purification since we have so many people and Gods that could kinda help us with it.

I don't even speak about effigies they could be left as tainted as they are (or just reference that they become less tainted, but process to purge them gonna be long)

Since she could be such a cute flower to have around and make soil fertile and help purify forest or something, mb even make Driad (doubt by I can dream) if we get Velun involved if we talk to Driads about her or smth.
Also could be one of points where Kass see that her plan is possible if we purefy her.

Since it was years and no one try to write about it.
P.S. it's still funny how some npc say thay she still lure people to rape them and some that she is absolutely docile.

 

[Azrael1]

are there any plans to add an option to recall unique encounters and fights? Something like the VR Programes from Trials in Tainted Space. This could allow players to recall scenes with characters who only appear once in the game.

 

[Nino]

are there any plans to add an option to recall unique encounters and fights? Something like the VR Programes from Trials in Tainted Space. This could allow players to recall scenes with characters who only appear once in the game.

I like this idea
It would be easy to justify in-game logic using magic to dreamwalk or whatever

 

[Marsproject]

I'm definitely not reading all of that just to let you know that my source is directly from Kasyrra and many other npc's/lore bits scattered throughout the game

So just gonna ignore the fact the guy is right if you had taken the time to read it? As a student of history the person is correct, now granted I can see how people can overlook technology at times in their fantasy worlds and use random bits from history to fill out some text or making something sound cool.

But in the end its NOT something that should be utterly ignored whether you find it interesting or not.

 

[Charity]

You can call me spoiled*, but make on start buffing spells and At-Wills different categories. Or more likely, add extra slot for us.

While I know it's balance problem, but there is so much multi turn enemies that use more than 1 at-will and all ot them might be dangerous.

*since said powers already was buffed with "on combat start" to be somewhat on par with other At Will powers.

 

[Papum]

Is there any plans to expand Izalti's (the drider seer in the Foothills), she seems to have an interest in the white drider queen from the Frostmarshes?

 

[Papum]

An other implementation that would be neat was to 'Kheros' seing that 'Hana' was seriously praying in silence to be able to have an child with an male 'Champion' and would give an very difficult quest that would allow Hana through an series of moderate/difficult hunts of several dificult mythical beasts up till an very difficult legendary japanese (or not) beast and by so be granted by the reversal of her previous wish and thus losing her dick and gaining a pussy, or gaining also an pussy by having both option being automaticly chosen for the player if fully male or herm. Because it was an difficult quest and 'Kheros' would be also feeling generous in terms of the trade having to be in equal, she would gain also her tails back and by so being able to get pregnate again (probably could get some plot twists aswell). For an female player the reason could be just to be able to have children aswell.

 

[Lostname475]

Starting stats to not be affected by race