What content would you like added?
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because?
to expand on it a bit: chastity cage is its own genitalia, in place of a dick. cCage: yes = dick : no.
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There is a musinderstanding here, at the very least with Geek, not sure if it stand with Observer.
I did not mean to make the player actually genderless, as in, say it in the game.
I was just brainstorming about how to implement it in the code. If the code makes a distinction between having a dick and not having one, in order to prevent scenes from triggering which assume your dick is free when its not, the dick option should be taken away. That is all I meant, not that anywhere ingame you would be genderless.
edit: (in fact it would be essential to fork it in a way so that the game still can tell your original gender, so all im saying, there is a mechanism already in place which could be used somehow to avoid scenes that dont fit with chastity)
I did not mean to make the player actually genderless, as in, say it in the game.
I was just brainstorming about how to implement it in the code. If the code makes a distinction between having a dick and not having one, in order to prevent scenes from triggering which assume your dick is free when its not, the dick option should be taken away. That is all I meant, not that anywhere ingame you would be genderless.
edit: (in fact it would be essential to fork it in a way so that the game still can tell your original gender, so all im saying, there is a mechanism already in place which could be used somehow to avoid scenes that dont fit with chastity)
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It's the same reason why we aren't letting you have a chastity cage. You're functionally sexless. Ryn is an extremely special case and because of that cannot use generic companion scenes and needs to have the chaste tag to block any generic sexual activity.
You might be able to have one as part of a scene, but it needs to come off at the end of it. No walking around with one.
You might be able to have one as part of a scene, but it needs to come off at the end of it. No walking around with one.
When Ryn was added into the game, she broke a load of scenes where companions were mentioned due to her having a chastity cage. While a scene cage would work, permanently attaching/equipping one would also likely break scenes.
Player chastity cages/belts can work in one-off scenes like the one Wsan already wrote for Evelyn and smol penis Champs, or the Bad End with Sandre and Caera. It doesn't work for the Champ on an ongoing basis for reasons already mentioned, isn't happening in this game and is in fact never happening.
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I swear Im not trying to annoy anyone but I have to react to Savin here...
You dont HAVE to have the writers handle it. Every problem has multiple solutions.
Cage can be auto-taken off with a single line of text before every bad end. Transformations could be flat out prevented with a single line of text while its worn.
I could go on because we havent really talked about all the specific problems walking around with cage (or any toy) would bring.
There ARE solutions, but its either too much work, or if simple to implement then arguably too restrictive.
I would argue that restrictive (blocking lots of content) is fine, since toys dont have to be pernament.
I dont think I was completely understood before but its kinda my fault for starting off with a generic counter argument to what I assumed would be raised later on. But now the circle is complete. Coding CAN take care of things so that all the writers can go on not caring about chastity in their texts.
I think you are vastly underestimating the work this would entail. If you have a cage/belt then you're requiring every sex scene (and any other time the Champ's genitals/underwear are mentioned because it might be relevant there) to account for the possibility that they're wearing one and to write parser checks and alternate text for it. Alternatively, you'd need some sort of check that tells the game 'this content can't proc because it doesn't support chastity' which would still mean going back to every scene, determining if it should be prevented and writing in a check for it. And what happens to those scenes where you have no possible sex content due to no available options because, again, a fundamental assumption of the game is that the Champ will always have some sort of accessible genitals?
The issue with Ryn is very real and the reason that she's completely blocked from generic sex scenes is because her cage broke the parser system.
The issue with Ryn is very real and the reason that she's completely blocked from generic sex scenes is because her cage broke the parser system.
Maybe you are right. After all if the immersion is broken at only 5 places its still 5 too many.
Plus most likely my solutions would turn the code messy...
Im pretty sure im 99% right about blocking off content and hooking into already existing tags / adding new genders that are still referred to ingame as male/female and tricks like that could circumvent the overwhelming majority of the problems. But yea I could see that its maybe not good enough. I know how much text there is, ive been reading nonstop for the past 3 days and at the end of the day its impossible to account for absolutely everything without manually parsing
sigh.. back to adventuring without a buttplug
Plus most likely my solutions would turn the code messy...
Im pretty sure im 99% right about blocking off content and hooking into already existing tags / adding new genders that are still referred to ingame as male/female and tricks like that could circumvent the overwhelming majority of the problems. But yea I could see that its maybe not good enough. I know how much text there is, ive been reading nonstop for the past 3 days and at the end of the day its impossible to account for absolutely everything without manually parsing
sigh.. back to adventuring without a buttplug
Coding 101: If you think you've accounted for everything you're 25% right.
You know what would be really neat? If, say, after you become a Baron, or after Gweyr comes back, there's some content about training up a Hawkethorne 'militia' or something so that nothing like what Gweyr did happens again—the idea being, training some people who could hopefully catch people like Tollus before he recruited half the town. Get Sanders in on it, even—I know he put down his lance, but there's no reason he can't advise on physical training.
I guess I also just want more Hawkethorne content in general. How many people are there in the town? Why do the 'explore' buttons only give me the same event of Ivris and Ogrish talking about medicine every time? It'd be cool if there was even like, one or two 'normal' people in the town you could interact with—that being, not shopkeepers.
I guess I also just want more Hawkethorne content in general. How many people are there in the town? Why do the 'explore' buttons only give me the same event of Ivris and Ogrish talking about medicine every time? It'd be cool if there was even like, one or two 'normal' people in the town you could interact with—that being, not shopkeepers.
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Since TiTs had a cheat mode added with the new javascript version, it would be nice if CoC2 also got one instead of having to rely on the Unofficial CoC2 Save Editor to update whenever a new version of CoC2 publicly releases so you can mess with the new stuff they added or if you want a specific TFs/Gears/Items and etc easier or earlier in the game if you're playing multiple characters instead of just one.
Just experienced some lez-domme rina...
Yeah, more plz
Yeah, more plz
Oh thats true in every case, not just for what I want.
Maybe we'll have it in coc3 10years from now lol.
Lactation is in the game, even though most scenes do not deal with it. Some even have tit squeezing without description of the lactation that is happening. Other scenes squirt milk but doesnt describe its type, despite milk and honey being very different.
My point is not that my disapppointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. The opposite, these are hardly noticable and do not ruin the experience at all.
I brought it up because this is how by in large a plug or a chastity would fit as well (yea yea not happening ,got it) . Scenes would fail to mention it where it would be preferrable to do so. But outright getting a blowjob while wearin cage would be impossible in every situation. Because in order to give a blowjob , the game has to check if you have a penis or not, and what i recommended is chastised-penis being its own genitalia (insofar as how the game handles it) . No doubt it would be more complex to implement than my rudimentary idea. Whatever its a moot point.
wery constructive
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i heard the "no, bad, we dont do that here" line ad nauseum but the goal here was to talk about the whys and hows.
This is good critcism. The game should always have a "leave" button among the sex options to foolproof what can be foolproofed. Garth sending you to check on the farm and you staying afterwards for extra, results in options that are either fucking or scissoring or backing out.
But when forced scenes occur that is much trickier. I wonder if parsing could automatically categorize encounters which have vagina use, penis use and those who have other options beside these. Programming is about automating things after all. (easier said than done, yes ,yes) .
I know right! Domme!Rina's army of champs grows!
I can't wait for the continuation of her dates/repeatable scenes <3
It's not just coding limitations, but also what the core team wants to see in the game. Not every kink it going to be expressed for that very reason. Yes, there is a ton of content contributed by people outside the coding team, but they have to work with an established framework. So while individual scenes may feature some of the kinks you enjoy, it won't be mainstream because it is currently not supported.
The devs have a LOT of work to do to finish the game, so they have to pick and choose what they include in the core mechanics, otherwise the game will never be finished.
Thankfully this is apparently what Wsan is working on right now (well, all Brihaus content but that will include Lesdomme Rina) and Savin's called it a major project. So ready your hearts and bodies because more is being worked on. xD
Given that Savin already said no in the context of the last time someone asked if it could happen in a future game, don't hold your breath. I already linked you to the comment but here it is again.
Again, fundamental assumption of the game in both writing and programming is that a character (not just the Champ) always has at least one of a penis or a vagina. What you're talking about could work if and only if the game was designed from the start around such a mechanic, which no FenCo game is and per Savin no FenCo game will be.
The devs have said that content filtering isn't happening (partly because yes, it would be a bitch to program) and while 'What genitals does this scene involve?' is a much easier question than 'What sexualities does this scene potentially involve?' it would still be a pain in the ass to go back and do for every scene. Especially since in almost all instances the context of the surrounding scene, the tooltip or both will give you that information if you're actually paying attention.
There's also gotta be some kind of give to counterbalance the take for something like that. Yeah you can gate off content based on whether or not there's a cage but then what? Without something to balance it it would be a net loss and that's not good for the experience overall. They would need to write content to make up for everything blocked off, whether that's new content entirely or repurposing existing content to account for it and quite frankly that is a colossal undertaking that I don't believe would be worth the time and effort put into it.
I would like more sadomasochistic content, where player is the sadist, for the game. Choking, hitting, spitting... More of it for Ryn would be nice. Her monstrous insertion scene is some of the most delightfully devilish stuff.
Yes ofcourse, all this was in the hypothetical anyway, writing content only makes sense to begin with if there is a writer who likes that content.
so there is that Quintillus guy, and after I helped him the story assumes I trust him and want to be his friend. While at the same time he does not cough up anything important about the cultists despite the story making you expect it. So my two cents: let me motivate him a little because thats what I felt like doing when he was all ~"talking about Tollus doesnt go well with my feefees". He has all this pent up information that just needs to be helped out by someone generous.
Okay its not even a sexual thing for me I just dont like his attitude...
Okay its not even a sexual thing for me I just dont like his attitude...
I imagine it would be a fun way to progress the story at some places getting information out of your fallen enemies. Some enemies can be killed while others cause a lot of trouble in the lore yet I just leave them masturbating on the floor repeatedly... if only I had a prison hmm
In the Mallach temple prostitution, the option to choose between male or female clientele, and bull, impreg or pregnancy services from the player
How about adding a lesbian kidnap and a slavery scenario? Example of a plot. The group is kidnapped by a rich lady and kept in a mansion, teaching the hero and his/her group. I'd like to see Kiyoko humiliated by her mistress. I would also like to add an arena for pony girls racing. It would be interesting to see how Kiyoko trembles with humiliation when the hostess forces her to take part in a public race. Fox ponygirl sound good. Only without adding men to all these scenes, not counting MC
That sounds like a really interesting idea for an entirely separate game that doesn't already have a main plot. Given this game and its identity, I really doubt we'd get kidnapped and enslaved outside of a bad end. Of course, bad ends are where you can really go wild, but in the main game we would probably never see this, with just the least of the problems being that all agency is taken away for the scenario to even start. If this was consensual, I could see some play scenarios like this happening, but I definitely doubt Kiyoko would let herself get treated like that by someone that isn't the Champ.
It would be especially odd if Champ's companions were Quint and Brint. A lesbian sees a trio of guys and decides to kidnap them to be her own personal sex slaves for no apparent reason.