What are your gripes/criticism of TiTs?

This is a really minor, nitpicky gripe mostly due to my play style. The gripe in question involves being unable to recruit certain potential party members without doing the deed with them. It sucks not being able to recruit Penny and Shekka. I think they're interesting but, my Steele just wouldn't give them his D and therefore his V just to bring them along on his mission.

I do realize that I am probably one of the very few, perhaps even the only player that plays this way and I can make do with the available options.
 

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Fisi do be making me consider going back and doing a run where I can say I'm exclusive to Fisi
 

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Minimum Lust simultaneously isn't worth what it should be (and usually just serves to undermine another benefit unduly) and isn't effective when it's desired. Possible suggestion: have it grant either additional Lust infliction or recovery from non-Lust attacks (either both or leave it to character choice), allowing for some hybrid play. Or just let it be straight-up Lust regeneration. Or just remove it.
 

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Not really a gripe, but i'm posting it here because I don't want to start another thread. Does anyone know how to download and pack the JS version?

I will post a gripe to stay on topic: I wish there was an option to make Ardia look more like Kaska. I'm a fan of her as an NPC, but I don't like her hyper-proportioned assets.
 

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Not really a gripe, but i'm posting it here because I don't want to start another thread. Does anyone know how to download and pack the JS version?
It's been said they want to have a downloadable version but are waiting till the game is more stable.
 

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> spend millions of spacebucks on building a vast nursery for literally hundreds of children you expect your offspring to produce in just a few months
> save a few hundreds by not putting a single goddamn milker anywhere in the facility
> rather than opt for one floor plan, put pointless extra stairs there for your blimp-like pregnant daughter to climb if she wants to deliver
 

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Milking Station said:
The milking room feels so soft and comfortable, entirely designed to be as relaxing and soothing as possible for long, stress-free hours spent producing sustenance for the nursery’s charges. Soft, warm light floods the room; bright enough to comfortably illuminate the room, but completely unlike the harsh flourescent lighting used throughout the rest of the station, with a soft, inviting couch tucked against one of the walls. Far more homely than anywhere else around Tavros.
There is a milker, but Steele can't actually use it.
 

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It's not really a gripe, per se, but I'd like to see more male crew members. At the moment we barely have any at all, excluding Kase. I know there's some lined up for the future but it'd still be cool to see. As for actual characters that'd be cool to bring aboard, the cuntboy that visits you after you buy Pupper Poppers would be a cool choice.
 

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Right now, my biggest gripe/complaint with TiTs (heck most modern porn games), is the one of the oldest, we need more content. I understand that a lot of work is being done, the new version/conversion, adding in things, etc... it all takes time and I'm cool with that. But the content I'm specifically referring to isn't just new content, its alternate content for what is also already there. I play the game in my own way (who doesn't?) and I guess I always try to play characters in certain ways. An example, so when I play a male Steele #12, I want him straight, interested in female only (no futa), and looking for an actual relationship. Well that basically eliminates several crew, quests, and more I'm sure I'm missing. Obviously this game is... well just from the opening is about sleeping with everything in the galaxy no matter their gender, species, kinks, consequences, etc... This where I would like to see improvement. What I'm getting at is more options, just as an example, convince Erra to become your loyal waifu puppy who joins you as a crew or at least stops sleeping around, yes this is massive amounts of work for the devs & artists, I get that, and not exactly in character, not like we are going around convincing people to change for Steele's tastes.
This is just one of the things that we seem to get in all these porn games with choices, an example your playing Joe, a straight guy from your choices, he gets a new wife due to your choices and hates Nice Time for Roo and would never have anything to do with it from your choices. Joe comes home from work one day and she is having an orgy and Joe's choices are 'I like this', 'I really like this', and 'Kicks her out of the way, sits on a wang and start sucking another and giving handies'. While this is a bit of an extreme, this is the kind of options we tend to get when we click on 'flirt' or 'accept quest', etc.... I would like more bail, retaliation, switch it around, etc...
I'm probably preaching to a half dozen people, but I really don't have a hate for certain content, its just if its not my cup of tea and I accept that (lots of the content I like usually gets cut these days, patreon rules, etc...). I don't want to have to deal with things because quest says my character is suddenly really stupid, or despite being a veteran of dozens of massive New Texas orgies and child birth, etc... my character suddenly can't handle one 'large' dick and breaks down like a stupid fool. I guess you can say I have a hate for having player choice being removed or not mattering?
 

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The official excuse is "it's not you, it's Steele - the text can't predict how every player will react". Plus the fact that new interations content would have to be written and accounted for, which may be a hassle considering how much there is already.
I'd like it if my Steele was a switch that's neither awkward nor "the best fuck I ever had" and that's my headcanon. But here you're not roleplaying a blank slate figure, but Captain Steele, heir to Victor Steele -the offspring of a notorious fucklord- currently looking for some probes that yadda yadda. I for one avoid a lot of smutty contents and I can go all "tralalala, tl;dr" when forced to go through them as they aren't up my alley. But I keep in mind that's not how these games are intended to play as. Also, I don't like it when Steele puts words in "my" mouth.
I would also like to give my Steeles a given configuration (even if it was similar to the one displayed when using "Sense") or see the game have a similar tool to Flexible Survival's warded/banned encounters one, but alas...
 
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one_two

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There is a milker, but Steele can't actually use it.
Yeah, you can get milked there actually, but in order for that to happen #1 you need to get knocked up by Zephyr so she shows up there occasionally, and #2 you have to bring your own milker so she can use it. It was the very feather that broke my back and made me post :v
 
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BigMAC

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Oh yeah, I don't expect any changes on dialogue, choices, etc... The work would be literally monumental, although admittedly, the type of games the CoC and TiTs are would be the best place for these kinds of choices as the story is almost entirely driven by your player choices, I mean, you can blow up 2 planets so far... how often do you get to do that in a game that isnt some kind of grand strategy space game. To be fair, if I was Steele... i probably would be blowing up these planets for the sheer level of degeneracy, 'Burn the heretic!' and all that lol. But really, I mean, I'm here and I like TiTs, CoC, etc... or I wouldn't be here talking about it. I see the games as generally good, way better then a ton of others.
 

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What I'm getting at is more options, just as an example, convince Erra to become your loyal waifu puppy who joins you as a crew or at least stops sleeping around, yes this is massive amounts of work for the devs & artists, I get that, and not exactly in character, not like we are going around convincing people to change for Steele's tastes.
You're playing the wrong game.

At its core TiTs isn't trying to be that kind of game. It's got a sexually liberal mindset.
The frustration you feel is the same one I felt though I mis-diagnosed my issue with the game.

I was much happier after I played Monster Girl Dreams, as that was closer to my sexuality.
I don't want to have to deal with things because quest says my character is suddenly really stupid, or despite being a veteran of dozens of massive New Texas orgies and child birth, etc... my character suddenly can't handle one 'large' dick and breaks down like a stupid fool. I guess you can say I have a hate for having player choice being removed or not mattering?
Or maybe not. NVM.

If it's choice that you feel is lacking, than yeah I don't think that's a fair expectation to give the devs. Games can give you as much choice as they can. For instance, TITs doesn't let you KILL every NPC. That would be more choice, but the world-state would shift too much from allowing that kind of choice so it doesn't give it to you.

Sexually the reason some choices aren't given to you is because the original writer for that sexual scenario isn't into your options.

Like that futa competition for the dog princess and breeding. Personally, after the first night, and winning everything, I kind of just didn't like the dog princess enough to want to fuck her. If futa security lady wanted her, fine. I didn't have the choice to just ask her to stop messaging me though, because the writer for that had the fetish of sexual competition and part of that fetish is competing and if you lose someone else getting sexual rewards. I'm not aromantic-sexual, and even less into submissive girls so that stuff had like negative appeal to me.
he gets a new wife due to your choices and hates Nice Time for Roo and would never have anything to do with it from your choices. Joe comes home from work one day and she is having an orgy and Joe's choices are 'I like this', 'I really like this', and 'Kicks her out of the way, sits on a wang and start sucking another and giving handies'. While this is a bit of an extreme, this is the kind of options we tend to get when we click on 'flirt' or 'accept quest'
Yeah it really does feel like this game just doesn't jive with you sexually...

I had the exact same feeling, but I didn't think that the problem was choice, cause it was just what the creators were into. I just felt a huge sexual disconnect from the developers and me. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the devs were aromantic. CoC2 has the same deal. Your first female party member literally warns you she will sleep around as much as possible b4 you talk to her as a heads up. It's not really a fantasy in that the player gets all the ladies while the ladies stay exclusive.

You have to go to other games for that.
 
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one_two

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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the devs were aromantic.
... It's a porn game, simple as that. If a player goes into it with the mindset "i want to find one special girl and only ever have sex with her and she better only ever has sex with me too" then they're effectively opting out of 99% of the available game content. Which, of course, is a choice one can make, but it's a bit silly to complain a game made for people with opposite mindset... is what it is.

Someone who wants traditional romance approach is going to be much better off looking into regular visual novels, as these have "pick one character out of a few available, live happily ever after in the end" far more often as their setup.
 

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... It's a porn game, simple as that. If a player goes into it with the mindset "i want to find one special girl and only ever have sex with her and she better only ever has sex with me too" then they're effectively opting out of 99% of the available game content. Which, of course, is a choice one can make, but it's a bit silly to complain a game made for people with opposite mindset... is what it is.

Someone looking for traditional romance approach is going to be much better off looking into regular visual novels, as these have "pick one character out of a few available, live happily ever after in the end" far more often as their setup.
Disagree.

It just appeals to a different fantasy. The common fantasy isn't.
"I want to find one special girl and only ever have sex with her and she better only ever has sex with me too"
It's.
"I want to sleep with a harem of hot partners I emotionally like but have them be exclusive to me"

Is that fantasy fair or even realistic? No. Definitely not. But that's why it's a fantasy.

And most erotic games follow it.

Someone looking for traditional romance approach is going to be much better off looking into regular visual novels, as these have "pick one character out of a few available, live happily ever after in the end" far more often as their setup.
Visual Novels are great for traditional romance and I love them for that, but they aren't very sexual.

Take a game like P-Can's Dreamland for instance. Fantasy hero and his party members (3 girls) go to an island. The island's full of succubi and his party members get kidnapped. He has to rush to save them. On that island he has lots of NPCs he can sleep with, and the more he does the closer they get to him emotionally and romantically and they're all exclusive to him. The party members he saves also become exclusive to him, and his "navi" on the island is a succubus interested in him, because he doesn't jump to sex at every opportunity and she's a constant exclusive sexual partner.

Or ExcessM's Parade Buster, or MGQ, or Desire Dungeon.

Even in the VN space games like Amayui Castle Meister and other Eushully titles are the exact same with multiple female partners.

Not exclusive to male PC games either.

Hakuoki and similar games do the opposite when it comes to women and male relations.

TiTs and Fenoxo games in general don't appeal to that fantasy is all. The inhabitants live a bohemian and free-wheeling lifestyle and romance isn't on the mind 99% of the time which is a shame.

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Oh and of course Monster Girl Dreams has great heroines who are emotionally interested in the protagonist, with great progression, that sexually just stay with you. Not all of them mind you. Some of them sleep around, but it's so that you can feel the world is alive and you have choice. Even the heroine that sleeps around I think is a pretty good heroine.
 
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It just appeals to a different fantasy. The common fantasy isn't.
"I want to find one special girl and only ever have sex with her and she better only ever has sex with me too"
It's.
"I want to sleep with a harem of hot partners I emotionally like but have them be exclusive to me"
I was referring specifically to BigMAC's post, not to what one might imagine the common fantasy is. And for what little it's worth, while harem fantasies are indeed common, there's enough erotic games out there which don't follow this model to view the claim it's what "most erotic games follow" as highly dubious.

Visual Novels are great for traditional romance and I love them for that, but they aren't very sexual.
A lot of visual novels have large amount of sexual content; to the point it can become primary focus of the game. These are common enough to be considered a visual novel subgenre called "nukige".

TiTs and Fenoxo games in general don't appeal to that fantasy is all. The inhabitants live a bohemian and free-wheeling lifestyle and romance isn't on the mind 99% of the time which is a shame.
This claim goes completely against the actual content of the game -- where most of prominent characters have relationships with others, you have love confessions, talks about forming families and all kind of lovey dovey stuff, and the player has numerous opportunities to establish such relationships themselves. These games don't appeal to the fantasy of (one-sided) exclusivity, which should not be confused with having no romantic content per se.
 
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This claim goes completely against the actual content of the game -- where most of prominent characters have relationships with others, you have love confessions, talks about forming families and all kind of lovey dovey stuff, and the player has numerous opportunities to establish such relationships themselves. These games don't appeal to the fantasy of (one-sided) exclusivity, which should not be confused with having no romantic content per se.
I didn't say no romance. I might've exaggerated with the 99% number I admit, but it's quite a small minority of characters. Either way, I don't want to take attention away from BigMac's original post. I've already had my fill of that specific discussion when I was active here.
 
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My gripe as I said before not enough futas and dickgirls.. or more specifically Domme Futa/Dickgirls.. I'm just not keen on a large subbie moo cow (sorry Brienne) when all my champs are 4ft ish.
 
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My gripe as I said before not enough futas and dickgirls..

I think this is the wrong board and thread and you meant to post in the CoC2 forum. TiTS has a surfeit of futa, like, way more futa than cis to the point where futa is the default or neutral, and Brienne obviously isn't in it. TiTS also has a dearth of cis femdom (much like CoC2) but ample futa-dom because, again, almost everything that has extended interactions is a futa and what isn't is, again, generally cis sub.
 

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I think this is the wrong board and thread and you meant to post in the CoC2 forum. TiTS has a surfeit of futa, like, way more futa than cis to the point where futa is the default or neutral, and Brienne obviously isn't in it. TiTS also has a dearth of cis femdom (much like CoC2) but ample futa-dom because, again, almost everything that has extended interactions is a futa and what isn't is, again, generally cis sub.
This guy gets it.
 

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Hmm gripes would mostly be things like I understand if you lose a fight then you're at the mercy of the winner but for consensual sex you can't set that you don't want to be fucked in the ass and some scenes will have you fucked in the ass with no say so with how you want to be as well as it being the only option at times. i play male and while i don't mind futa and dickgirls in this game, it sucks that i cant set what i'm okay with and what im not. I continually avoid going with kiro on her date because in the end I will be bottomed and that goes with Mirren and Verusha as well. Some characters like Azra, Gianna, and Ramis don't have enough content but that is a known thing. You don't have the option to mess with some characters at all. I loathe that tiptoeing around when it comes to incest, I get it that is not for everyone but the thing with kiro and her "step" sister irks me as well as how syri and anno were handled. I was shocked when I found out this was a thing and was happy about it but the payoff ends up being somewhat underwhelming. You go through the effort of pushing both pairs of sisters to admit they want eachother and in the end it's just a "threesome" of you fucking one of them at the time while the other one is just there until it's her turn. Bess and reaha needs more busts. Also still waiting to put hand solo in a body as well as being able to find out more about Olympia and Bess. A big one though is that I still hate you can't have team members outside of scripted missions. I know it's not coc2 but after suffering alone in coc one then moving on to 2 where I can have a team it just sucks to be alone again in tits.
 
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Ramis constantly domming you on the ship and having you orgasm at random points.
 
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I mean Ramis also being a raging alcoholic but that is more her character
True, yet at the same time being a raging alcoholic and randomly domming you at a whim with the blanket consent of "I invited you into my home" being all the consent they need to do so kinda go hand in hand.
 
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So, finally trying the port now that there is content parity and... yeah, gotta say it's nigh unplayable being unable to view my stats (particularly HP and Lust) outside of a menu.
 

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So, finally trying the port now that there is content parity and... yeah, gotta say it's nigh unplayable being unable to view my stats (particularly HP and Lust) outside of a menu.
But you don't need to see your HP and Lust outside combat! (sarcasm)
You can work around it by enlarging the map, but it's not ideal.

I want the option to swap the display of 'Active' and 'Passive' stats. You don't generally need to see your Active stats in town, but you might need to see the Passive if you're stat training.
I want the ability to use the same item again with a hotkey (or something). A lot of transformatives were designed with the idea you'd use a lot of them. It's a lot more annoying to do this with the new UI. Right now, it's probably more convenient to just use the Browser Console to get the effects you want.
 
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Given the largely random nature of the transformatives it's pretty much always more convenient to just use the browser console to get the effects you want, no matter how easy using a lot of them might otherwise be.