Strive for Power (Slave Management, RPG)

[Fikka]

Amazing work ! Kudos !


The sex scene descriptions could definitely benefit from any writers you could collaborate with.


Things I'm looking forward to if possible.


1. Independent character interactions. For eg. personal rooms could have 2-6 beds and that might automate an interactions based on your metrics.


2. Incest. Currently mother daughter interactions do not include relationship in the description. Would be a nice touch.


3. Group-sex. Love the threesomes one can have but we want more. Lol.


4. Male characters. Not for M/M but for group-sex parties. Also brother-sisters kinky sex would be fun.


Love what your doing and looking forward to more.


Cheers

 

[mrttao]

The food gathering jobs suck, the amount of food they bring in is between 1/4th to 1/2 the amount of food that could be bought with the money they could make by if they were set to work as unskilled laborers.


And it is definitely not enough to stop tedious micromanagement. Speaking of, it would be great if the cook job automatically bought food as needed.


It would also be great if we could bulk buy food, as it is i have to break my finger clicking it hundreds of times to stockpile a decent amount


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Also, incest with a daughter who is a seraph has an empty scene. saying "you have sex with the seraph girl" and that's it.

 

[mrttao]

children are completely bugged. it says they almost always inherit from their mother, but it seems to be random between all the potentially available mothers among your girls.


That is, MC is male human. he has the following slaves


female fairy


female seraph


female demon


Get all 3 of them pregnant, and when the fairy gives birth the baby will be renadomly either a fairy, a seraph, or a demon. It will only pick races which are currently available among your slaves, that is, the fairy cannot give birth to an orc in the above scenario... but will be able to once an orc is recruited.


Moreover, if you keep them, grow them, and then examine their relatives you will see that they have the wrong mother.


For example


Tami Khan halfkin bunny  was impregnated by MC human male


Tami khan gave birth to Genevie Khan taurus. After growth acceleration for 18 turns, examinine Genevie Khan indicates that her mother is Cecile Patel taurus. Despite the fact that she is completely unrelated to cecile.

 

[Maverik]

children are completely bugged. it says they almost always inherit from their mother, but it seems to be random between all the potentially available mothers among your girls.


That is, MC is male human. he has the following slaves


female fairy


female seraph


female demon


Get all 3 of them pregnant, and when the fairy gives birth the baby will be renadomly either a fairy, a seraph, or a demon. It will only pick races which are currently available among your slaves, that is, the fairy cannot give birth to an orc in the above scenario... but will be able to once an orc is recruited.


Moreover, if you keep them, grow them, and then examine their relatives you will see that they have the wrong mother.


For example


Tami Khan halfkin bunny  was impregnated by MC human male


Tami khan gave birth to Genevie Khan taurus. After growth acceleration for 18 turns, examinine Genevie Khan indicates that her mother is Cecile Patel taurus. Despite the fact that she is completely unrelated to cecile.

Have tried this, but worked fine for me. Mind passing me your save prior to giving bugged birth? 

 

[mrttao]

Have tried this, but worked fine for me. Mind passing me your save prior to giving bugged birth? 

here you go. using 0.6.4.1

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I tested that it does load successfully (some saves fail to load even on same version).


I tested it 4 times already, every time on that save you hit end turn the result is the same. 2 babies are born bugged, they are always born of the same race (IIRC gender and stats vary, but the races and wrongmothers are the same). I have never had a non bugged baby actually


Baby 1: 


" Your servant Cecile just gave birth to a healthy demon baby. It's a girl. Baby's eyes are amber and hair is blond. It's ears are It has small tail inherited from mother. On it's head there's a pair of tiny horns."


This refers to Cecile Patel taurus - realmother, no longer pregnant


If the baby is quickaged it will then show up its relationship tab to say mother is


Robin Roberts demon - wrongmother, still pregnant even after this baby was born


Baby 2:


" Your servant Genevie just gave birth to a healthy seraph baby. It's a boy. Baby's eyes are green and hair is black. It's ears are"


This refers to Genevie Khan taurus - realmother, no longer pregnant


If the baby is quickaged it will then show up its relationship tab to say mother is


Jenni Lewis seraph - wrongmother, still pregnant even after this baby was born


Play a few more turns and you will see some more bugged babies

 

[Maverik]

here you go

You sure those are random? I get demon+seraph every time.


I don't think those are wrong mothers either. Both babies are tied to those which they are born from prior birth. 

 

[mrttao]

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At one stage in plot quest you are told to

Bring Melissa Taurus girl with biggest tits and maximum developed multibreasts.

And are explicitly told to do so via lab modification. The problem is that the lab can do literally nothing of the sort. The only thing the lab can do to breasts is add nipples.


To get multi breasts you need to save scum the mutate spell.


To increase breast size you need to use a potion called " Majorus Concoction " which you have to brew yourself using an alchemy lab and requiring both tainted and magic essence (from demon and fairy respectively).


The entire thing about telling you to get and staff a lab is wrong.

 

[Maverik]

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At one stage in plot quest you are told to


And are explicitly told to do so via lab modification. The problem is that the lab can do literally nothing of the sort. The only thing the lab can do to breasts is add nipples.


To get multi breasts you need to save scum the mutate spell.


To increase breast size you need to use a potion called " Majorus Concoction " which you have to brew yourself using an alchemy lab and requiring both tainted and magic essence (from demon and fairy respectively).


The entire thing about telling you to get and staff a lab is wrong.

Nah, you add nipples, then turn them into breasts, then boost them with potion. I guess there's not that obvious connection between first two.

 

[mrttao]

You sure those are random? I get demon+seraph every time.

That is not what I meant by random.


They are not being rerolled every time you load the save. as I said I tested it many times and the results are always identical.


When I said random I meant in the sense that there is no actual relationship between the claimed mother and the real mother.

I don't think those are wrong mothers either. Both babies are tied to those which they are born from prior birth. 

Please look again.


Baby 1: 
This baby is a demon


This baby is birthed by Cecile Patel, who is a taurus
This baby will have the last name Patel, like its real mother
Cecile Patel, the real mother, is no longer pregnant after this baby is born


This baby, if kept, will falsely state its mother is Robin Roberts, a demon
Robin Roberts, the demon who is falsely claimed to be its mother, is still pregnant after this baby is born



Baby 2:
This baby is a seraph


This baby is birthed by Genevie Khan, a taurus
This baby will have the last name Khan, like its real mother.
Genevie Khan, the real mother, is no longer pregnant after this baby is born


This baby, if kept, will falsely state its mother is Jenni Lewis, a seraph
Jenni Lewis, the seraph who is falsely claimed to be its mother, is still pregnant after this baby is born
 

 

[Maverik]

That is not what I meant by random.


They are not being rerolled every time you load the save. as I said I tested it many times and the results are always identical.


When I said random I meant in the sense that there is no actual relationship between the claimed mother and the real mother.


Please look again.

Do you remember which way they were conceived by chance?

 

[mrttao]

Nah, you add nipples, then turn them into breasts, then boost them with potion. I guess there's not that obvious connection between first two.

I didn't realize that once you add nipples it will unlock the extra breasts.


And already knew you can use mutate to get extra breasts without extra nipples from prior experimentations with the spell

Do you remember which way they were conceived by chance?

1. Click the resident button on the right handed menu


2. click the sex button on the character name for consensual 1 on 1 intercourse.


3. click on vaginal with cum inside box checked.


4. Repeat 1-3 until she is pregnant. although often times instead of clicking residents on the right handed side I would click on "return to population screen" button that is displayed on the aftersex report


5. do this systematically to every girl who is not pregnant until she is pregnant. Skipping turns if needed to do nothing else during the turn until all girls are pregnant

 

[Maverik]

I didn't realize that once you add nipples it will unlock the extra breasts.


And already knew you can use mutate to get extra breasts without extra nipples from prior experimentations with the spell

Well, there's two different functions, but they both relate to same variable. 1. Add more nipples/breasts 2. Make them grow/shrink. You kinda roll it on random with mutation.

 

[mrttao]

Well, there's two different functions, but they both relate to same variable. 1. Add more nipples/breasts 2. Make them grow/shrink. You kinda roll it on random with mutation.

Sure, I think the point though is that the lab does not explain in any way that you need to add nipples before you are allowed to add breasts.


BTW, it would be nice if you could have your assistant perform labwork on MC.

 

[Maverik]

Sure, I think the point though is that the lab does not explain in any way that you need to add nipples before you are allowed to add breasts.


BTW, it would be nice if you could have your assistant perform labwork on MC.

Yeah, PC modifications are kinda in plans. 

 

[mrttao]

Yeah, PC modifications are kinda in plans. 

Thanks. So, do you have any ideas on what could be causing the mixed up babies?


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Also, I noticed a few more things.


1. headgirl and private lab work do not get mentioned on "servants are working" page.


2. mage order assistant and town store jobs have a redundant 2 line breaks between the name and the money earned.

Cali went to the forest in search for wild animals. She managed to bring back 81 units of food.


Tami helping at the town store.


Tami earned 11 gold.


Ulthaea working at Mage's Order.


Ulthaea earned 119 gold.

As you can see above, it looks rather weird. And it actually a bit unnatural to parse what it means. I think it would look better if it was.

Cali went to the forest in search for wild animals. She managed to bring back 81 units of food.


Tami helping at the town store. Tami earned 11 gold.


Ulthaea working at Mage's Order. Ulthaea earned 119 gold.

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oh, another suggestion here. If you do not have any ongoing laboratory projects, then the girl assigned to assist the laboratory should instead perform an order assistant job that day. The jobs have identical requirements (and if i am not mistaken about the fluff are identical in execution as well), and this saves the need to constantly shift them back and forth based on your utilization of the private laboratory. while still getting the cash for her labor on days when you have no private lab work queued

 

[Maverik]

So, do you have any ideas on what could be causing the mixed up babies?

Fixed couple of things which may have caused it, but not entirely sure. It's likely related to losing pregnant slaves, but still no solid data on that.

 

[mrttao]

Well, there's two different functions, but they both relate to same variable. 1. Add more nipples/breasts 2. Make them grow/shrink. You kinda roll it on random with mutation.

Ok, now that I have done this and now I figured out what I didn't understand. When it said "add more nipples" I assumed it meant "to the same existing boob".


This is a well known fetish with cow girls, giving them multiple nipples per teat.


But in actuality it still only has 1 nipple per breast, instead it adds nipples in the same manner that a dog has 8 nipples, each is located at a different breast.


I think that procedure could use rephrasing to clarify what it is supposed to do.

Fixed couple of things which may have caused it, but not entirely sure. It's likely related to losing pregnant slaves, but still no solid data on that.

I did lose a couple of pregnant slaves. Both giving them away to fulfil a mage guild quest, and selling them when i realized how the system works (better to just buy heroic girls from sebastian than try to improve existing lot).


 I don't remember if I had this issue before I lost girls though


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say, in retrospect, that pregnancy bug being related to losing slaves suggests that the slaves are numbered internally (also the way they sort suggests that as well), and that numbers are released when a slave is lost. which allows some functions to reuse it or get confused by it as they count to determine which number is which slave?


if that is so then that is a really bad way to handle it that will cause other bugs too. You never want your database to do things that way. Each slave should have a unique non reusable ID.

 

[Maverik]

say, in retrospect, that pregnancy bug being related to losing slaves suggests that the slaves are numbered internally (also the way they sort suggests that as well), and that numbers are released when a slave is lost. which allows some functions to reuse it or get confused by it as they count to determine which number is which slave?


if that is so then that is a really bad way to handle it that will cause other bugs too. You never want your database to do things that way. Each slave should have a unique non reusable ID.

I use unique IDs.

 

[mrttao]

I use unique IDs.

ah good. sorry if it came off in an offensive manner.


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Also, I just encountered something weird, two babies with undefined species were born

Your servant Jenni just gave birth to a healthy undefined baby. It's a boy. Baby's eyes are undefined and hair is undefined. It's ears are It has small tail inherited from mother. On it's head there's a pair of tiny horns.

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[Maverik]

ah good. sorry if it came off in an offensive manner.


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Also, I just encountered something weird, two babies with undefined species were born


Here is a save

I suppose its not on the newest patch? 6.5.1 is out btw.

 

[mrttao]

I suppose its not on the newest patch? 6.5.1 is out btw.

it was 6.4.1


i didn't realize there was an update already. am downloading the update now


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I lost my mindread spell, and I can't reacquire it because it is not offered for sale, since the game assumes you already got it from the plot quest.


It would be great if it was offered for sale in the guild for debug purposes.


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Also, what does night vision utility enhancement do?

 

[Maverik]

I lost my mindread spell, and I can't reacquire it because it is not offered for sale, since the game assumes you already got it from the plot quest.


It would be great if it was offered for sale in the guild for debug purposes.

Yeah, you probably should start over, since you haven't played on 6.5.0 version. 

Also, what does night vision utility enhancement do?

Used to help prevent ambushes... I think I didn't make new usage out of it.

 

[mrttao]

I recommend renaming "add 1 pair of additional nipples" to "add 1 pair of additional nipples below existing breasts". Or even better "add 1 pair of flat nonfunctional breasts"


this would make it clearer what kind of change it is, distinguishing it from multinipple breasts.


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After IIRC the second guild promotion I find a girl trying to steal from a merchant, he wants her punished, turns out she was kidnapped by bandits and escaped in the city, and was stealing food. I convince her to come be my servant saying that i will help her look for her family. But this doesn't show up in the side quests, is this supposed to have a followup?


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6.5.1 now shows number representation for prerequsites such as

Journeyman — Confidence(3);
Expert — Confidence(4);
Master — Confidence(5), Willpower Willful(4) or higher.

which is very convenient. The actual stats of the character in question are listed as

Willpower: She has a certain degree of willfulness going for her when she's dealing with others. (ⅈ)


Courage: Cautious
Confidence: Assertive
Wit: Dim
Charm: Memorable

what number is cautious? what number is assertive? it is still a matter of recognizing the numbers


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The demon trait is that lab upgrades take less resources.


The help section for lab says it costs gold, mana, and you need a lab assistant.


The thing is, there is no actual in game indication of the price of the changes you are making. There should be a cost displayed before you start the process.


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library training and level ups continue even after a girl has enough skillpoints to reach her maximum potential.


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"You spot pile of green living ooze with various parts of decomoposing material in it. "


cast mindread


" Special Skills — Overwhelm undefined undefined undefined undefined"

 

[Maverik]

After IIRC the second guild promotion I find a girl trying to steal from a merchant, he wants her punished, turns out she was kidnapped by bandits and escaped in the city, and was stealing food. I convince her to come be my servant saying that i will help her look for her family. But this doesn't show up in the side quests, is this supposed to have a followup?

Yes, but it's still in development. For now enjoy free girl. 

what number is cautious? what number is assertive? it is still a matter of recognizing the numbers

It's color coded - red 1, orange 2, yellow 3, light green 4, dark green 5. 


Laboratory really needs some rework. 

library training and level ups continue even after a girl has enough skillpoints to reach her maximum potential.

That's intended. Maximum skill points should actually increase every 5 levels I believe. Although library should become useless past certain level.

 

[mrttao]

That's intended. Maximum skill points should actually increase every 5 levels I believe. Although library should become useless past certain level.

by that you mean that their potential goes up by 1 per 5 level? that is cool, and good to know.

It's color coded - red 1, orange 2, yellow 3, light green 4, dark green 5. 

alright, I see. and by now I actually recognize them. it would have still been easier to learn the system if the reported stats were also labeled with a number in addition to their name and color

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Gave this one a poke.  Mostly found it to be an interesting start.  Only real glaring issue I could see was needing to actively spend my energy each day, even though I often was doing the same thing over and over again.  I got so sick of this that I just started skipping through days rather than build up my mana while waiting for enough money to do something or for my fighter to recover from injuries.  A way to schedule your own energy use would go a long way towards making days you aren't doing anything more manageable.  Alternatively, to tell the game to spend the rest of your energy doing x, where x is something like building mana with character y, build obedience with z, break prisoner's wills, etc.

 

[mrttao]

break prisoner's wills

You do that? it completely ruins the slaves though.


I found all the jail stuff and the refined brand stuff useless. Just slap a normal brand on them. then spend 2 actions a day on them for a few days to fix their loyalty. Suffer through their theft and disobedience for those few days until they build up enough loyalty.


Actually, in general I am kinda disappointed that you can't really build up slaves, only tear them down and permanently ruin them.

 

[Darkfirephoenix]

Actually, in general I am kinda disappointed that you can't really build up slaves, only tear them down and permanently ruin them.

That may soon change, to quote the blog for version 0.6.5.: " In all honesty this version should've come out bit sooner, but I was kinda stuck with revamping population screen interface and adding option to boost girls' willpower stats."

 

[mrttao]

That may soon change, to quote the blog for version 0.6.5.: " In all honesty this version should've come out bit sooner, but I was kinda stuck with revamping population screen interface and adding option to boost girls' willpower stats."

oh, I missed that. but it's good to hear this.


it is hard to get emotionally invested in a girl and then have to dump her for an upgrade because she will never amount to anything.

 

[Maverik]

There's already a function to train girl's stats in latest version. Will probably be changed later though.