Yay more Siobhan she's been at the top of my list of wanting more content. Thank you.
The goth bird sounds cool too.
The goth bird sounds cool too.
Nonesuch's Catalogue of Smut
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Happy to see the continuation of the unique skunk girl and all of the work you've done!
Siobhan isn't a skunk girl drug dealer that is a different character
The skunk girl you're talking about is Vivi. Siobhan is the police girl-turned-slave at Zheng Shi's Operations Deck
Oh, nice. Honestly, I didn't expect it to be completed already. Can't wait for it to get implemented into the game.
I really liked the slyveren crewmember content. But I wasn't very fond of how pushy and full of herself Siobhan is, and how she stays in control despite self-proclaimations of being a slave.
I hope Steele can actually train her and whip that awful attitude out of her in the crew content.
I'm a 4head lol I have never seen that character and the wiki has nothing so I had to dig up her bust art
Nastizia Expansion Pack Part 1: The Lossening is LIVE. As mentioned on the blog, this was a huge piece of work. It was one of those things where I considered the possibility of the PC losing the contest with Riya, whether to even acknowledge it or just turn it into a dead end, and went 'well if I'm going to allow for it, I may as well do it properly'. The scale got a bit out of hand, - I'm a little worried about doing the win half justice in comparison at this point, truth to be told.
In game terms though I think you only get to something like this - exploring the ramifications of the PC failing a major challenge in depth - in a smut game. It adds a great sense of depth (and peril/temptation), so overall, I'm very happy with how it turned out, even though not everyone's going to enjoy it,
And to all of you who like soft BDSM, neotorare, SPH, chastity and subby threesomes - well, I hope you feast.
I know the team doesn't like one writer touching another writer's existing work, but since you're working on Riya now, has there been any discussion on potentially letting you edit her old stuff?
I'm not necessarily against a raceplay character existing considering slavery and whatnot is on the table here, but Riya's old content is really poorly written IMO and it ruins her forever going forward. It genuinely feels like her old writer was more interested in creating ragebait than an actual character.
She has a whole "side quest" which is just the game hamfistedly going "Look! Look how cool she is! You want her around, right??" and failing miserably at it. She drops the absolute banger of a line that is "All fucking Ausar must fucking hang" (IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYONE BEING SHOT AT) and then Grence at the end of the quest is like "Are you sure you want to get rid of her? Are you REALLY sure? She's so badass and awesome and good at her job though...".
You can punch her and get her kicked off Tavros, but neither option is written to be particularly satisfying. The only comeupance she gets is optionally in Nastizia's quest, and it's well done but a little late at that point.
I don't think she needs to be removed (even though I would gladly shove her out an airlock if given the chance), but some editing to make her less of a writer's pet would go a long way to making her bareable. Annoying characters are one thing, but annoying characters that are shielded from all consequence by writing are perhaps one of the gravest sins you can commit in fiction. ESPECIALLY a choice-based video game. See: Delphine in Skyrim.
I'm not necessarily against a raceplay character existing considering slavery and whatnot is on the table here, but Riya's old content is really poorly written IMO and it ruins her forever going forward. It genuinely feels like her old writer was more interested in creating ragebait than an actual character.
She has a whole "side quest" which is just the game hamfistedly going "Look! Look how cool she is! You want her around, right??" and failing miserably at it. She drops the absolute banger of a line that is "All fucking Ausar must fucking hang" (IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYONE BEING SHOT AT) and then Grence at the end of the quest is like "Are you sure you want to get rid of her? Are you REALLY sure? She's so badass and awesome and good at her job though...".
You can punch her and get her kicked off Tavros, but neither option is written to be particularly satisfying. The only comeupance she gets is optionally in Nastizia's quest, and it's well done but a little late at that point.
I don't think she needs to be removed (even though I would gladly shove her out an airlock if given the chance), but some editing to make her less of a writer's pet would go a long way to making her bareable. Annoying characters are one thing, but annoying characters that are shielded from all consequence by writing are perhaps one of the gravest sins you can commit in fiction. ESPECIALLY a choice-based video game. See: Delphine in Skyrim.
The fact that the option to remove her was specifically added and all it does is move her around definitely gives it this feeling imo.
The issue would be access to Riya's old docs. Franks did give me permission to use her however I wanted when he left (although I'm not sure if that extended to editing her existing material), but I've a bad feeling he'll have gotten rid of those docs by now, and I didn't make copies. So if I were to do something like that it would probably be a case of tediously playing out all of her scenes including variants.
I'm not opposed to doing it in theory - her initial sex scenes are actually pretty good, but everything surrounding them has the pong of unwashed bedsheets and stale fast food about it. I wouldn't mind hosing them down and bringing them more in line with her later content, where racism is not literally her only personality trait. We'll see if an opportunity to do it arises.
You try to get her removed, she just moves to another perfectly good post elsewhere. You punch her, you get tazed and/or arrested. You complain to her buddies, they're all "But she's so cool tho you should like her". Not even just Grence, there's another guy in the Black Void encounter who does the same thing when you complain about her to him.
I can't think of any other character in TiTS who gets that level of glaze from the game itself, and it only ended because she was literally given to a different writer altogether.
You mean these docs?
100% all-beef Franks
Since I am now royalty(as my name of Tyrian purple indicates), I figured I should make a thread so all you plebians can say 'Franks for gracing us with your presence!' Anyway here I go so lissen gud. Coded/In game Riya the space cop who is a racisms In which PC becomes Milodaddy's bitch for...
forum.fenoxo.com
This page appears to have all of Franks's stuff, including Riya and her little expansions prior to Nastizia's quest.
Don't even get me started on if you have a kid with her...
I'm also pretty sure he only added that in because literally dozens of people kept complaining about her.
Maybe less of a troll and more of a placative measure.
Honestly, I don't know, I can't remember, but considering the feel of the rest of her content, I wouldn't be surprised.
Honestly, I have a hard time seeing someone get lots of requests to make a character removable, then adding a button to do that, only to then go "sike, she's still in the game just somewhere else!" as placative in any way whatsoever
shrug
Idk man. I don't wanna make too many assumptions about Franks' character, I don't know enough about him.
Maybe he was just really into this and it didnt age well, who knows.
I've seen that. Honesty, it's bad, but not as bad as I was expecting.
Maybe not trolling so much as "Fine, this is the best you guys are getting out of me." An option to do something even if that something is incredibly mild.
His avatar was Momiji wearing a MAGA hat. Riya being the way she is was not an accident, nor was it subtle. There isn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind that the reason that Franks gave Riya to Nonesuch was to put her in the hands of the community's most unimpeachable writer, giving her one last layer of ironclad protection.
I don't know why Nonesuch agreed to it, but it cost him a lot of respect from me.
I mean, it's not like whoever gets her can just go "And now she gets killed by pirates, the end!" right? I don't know how it works exactly but from the conversation in Franks's old thread I suspect Fen would shoot that down immediately.
She can either remain an annoying ass character, or someone can take over and make her less annoying. (Unless nobody taking over her writing meant she would get deleted from the game, in which case understandable gripe).
I think she should have been left in the dustbin of history with a thousand other half-baked characters nobody remembers. This is the one, singular time in the game's entire history that someone picked up a character that someone else left and made a real Herculean effort to continue their content, and there was nobody, not a single character and not a single author, who deserved it less.
Fair point. This game does have a lot of unfinished characters and quests, many of whom I'm scared won't ever actually be finished.
That being said, Nastizia's questline was commissioned for its own sake, and Riya was simply picked as Steele's rival for it because she's quite possibly the most satisfying character in the game to beat the shit out of with a shock baton (sorry, dueling saber) and then Nice Time for Roo. She's an asshole, everyone hates her, and it makes you really not want to lose. I can't think of any other existing characters that would fit well in her place, and making up a new character altogether just for the questline wouldn't hit as hard.
Like I said: if she's not getting straight up taken out of the game/killed off, I think this is the best thing that can happen to her. If she's such a problem that even giving her new content where she can be taken down several pegs is an issue, why is she still here? Fen should've bitten the bullet and gotten rid of her. It's too late now that Nastizia's quest is in the game, that ship's sailed.
I 'rescued' her because I needed a character who the PC would really, really want to beat in a romantic contest - who was abrasive and sexually confident enough to work in the role as bull. In amongst a sea of sex vendors and girls-next-door, she was perfect for this. I could have invented a new character to fit the role but a) they wouldn't have had anything like the same impact from a standing start, and b) I don't particularly like doing that when there's an opportunity to expand upon an existing character.
It's long been a bugbear of mine that there aren't enough villains and provocateurs in TiTS - characters that will excite passions other than 'oh she's cute'. This is understandable to a point. Generally when someone sits down to write something they want to have sex with, they're going to give that something a friendly and accepting personality. New writers in particular are often very self-conscious about what the audience will think of their special little guy, so will go overboard to make them nice. Riya was not written with good intentions, but that in a way is why she's somewhat unique.
Anyways this is good news Mark, I'd forgotten he posted most of it on here. Thanks.
It's long been a bugbear of mine that there aren't enough villains and provocateurs in TiTS - characters that will excite passions other than 'oh she's cute'. This is understandable to a point. Generally when someone sits down to write something they want to have sex with, they're going to give that something a friendly and accepting personality. New writers in particular are often very self-conscious about what the audience will think of their special little guy, so will go overboard to make them nice. Riya was not written with good intentions, but that in a way is why she's somewhat unique.
Anyways this is good news Mark, I'd forgotten he posted most of it on here. Thanks.
Hm, see, I get the point about Riya having 'extra impact' because she's an established character, but it's hard to see that as a positive when she's the Leofric of TiTs. It was less that beating her was satisfying, and moreso that dealing with her left less of a sour taste in my mouth when she wasn't calling the shots.
Maybe that'll change if the win route lets you put her in her place in a way that sticks. Or just not deal with her as much, on the grounds that we've more than earned private time with Nastizia
Maybe that'll change if the win route lets you put her in her place in a way that sticks. Or just not deal with her as much, on the grounds that we've more than earned private time with Nastizia
So how the Nasti submission meter works? I tried like 30 party event and nothing seems to change plus the chastity choice with Riya crashes the second time, duel win too. So far I have not seen any scenes that involve Nasti. Pls tell me there are some and I cant get them cause of the crashes.
Thank you for your work!
Thank you for your work!
Ah... I see... so depending on various factors, he's either really funny or fucking insufferable, for some people both.
I disagree, let me explain.
It's one thing for a character or project or what have you to be a bit half baked, rushed, or forgettable what with so many amateur writers having submitted their works into the fray, and what with the sheer volume of content that the game has at this point. If Riya was written by some nobody, well, she likely wouldnt have gotten in lol, but that aside, im pretty sure people also wouldnt have made as much of a stink about her if she had a quarter of the content and was placed on, say, myrellion, and was just made by some rando to satisfy their degradation and raceplay kink for the game.
But when something with as much prominence and volume of content as Riya, with the pedigree of the writer behind it, as well as the smut quality, has such glaring issues, that stands out enormously. It's like if Insane Clown Posse started making asmr content.
So that's why imo it's such a good thing that Nonesuch is taking up this task, because blatant provocation is far more noticeable and aggravating than mediocrity and things left unfinished.