Kineticist Feedback Thread

[jskil5]

When playing Kineticist it feels most of the time that it's missing something or that I would love to get some of their powers as Tech Specialist

It makes me wish that levels went up to 20 but not having 8/16 more abilities and perks, and instead upon reaching level 13, you were given a choice between getting the other first 8 special abilities of your current job or becoming 'multi-class', and choosing from the first 8 abilities of a second job (of course not getting their 12 perks from leveling nor their starting ability)

That way you could choose between going all-in with your current job or creating 'hybrid' jobs, something like the Infiltrator, Sentinel, and Vanguard from Mass Effect

i think being able to hybrid into one later would be good as well maybe what ever tests they do to determine if steele can be one missed it thus steele cant fully grasp their powers as they missed out and thus are unable to fully utilize them but having say a smuggler/Kineticist hybrid focused on stealth could be cool etc etc

 

[Dad™]

While I like the caster concept, I wish that the Kineticist had lust-based attacks. The Icon sort of implied at least a few, and being able to roleplay a space succubus would be neat. On a similar note, I'm disappointed that the Psychic Tentacles and the various Savacite things don't have any interactions with us. It's such a big thing on uveto, I was excited to finally get there as a kineticist and...big fat goose egg.
However, giving bimbos perks to make their psionics still work is neat. Please keep adding interactions like that, it makes experimentation a lot more appealing than just building the same guy over and over.

 

[JustSomeDude]

While I like the caster concept, I wish that the Kineticist had lust-based attacks. The Icon sort of implied at least a few, and being able to roleplay a space succubus would be neat. On a similar note, I'm disappointed that the Psychic Tentacles and the various Savacite things don't have any interactions with us. It's such a big thing on uveto, I was excited to finally get there as a kineticist and...big fat goose egg.
However, giving bimbos perks to make their psionics still work is neat. Please keep adding interactions like that, it makes experimentation a lot more appealing than just building the same guy over and over.

I like to think the idea of this being implemented could be using Brute/Bimbo versions of Kineticist having altered perks that raise lust, such as the thermal powers causing them to heat up and sweat or leech increasing lust out of desire to warm up, etc.

 

[mbezzo]

Recently started a kineticist playthrough a few days ago and hit level 13.

Kineticist feels strong but Deep Impact is overpowered, basically autowinning against any enemy that can't resist the stun that bypasses shields and even stacks in duration, with only the mere condition of requiring a critical hit (which hitting the 50% cap is pretty doable).

Other than that, Telekinetic Warrior is worse than weapons in every way and competes with the very good Third Eye Aim so nobody will ever use it, and Concussive Augmentation feels a bit weak but the fact that it doesn't use a turn to cast still makes it better than nothing I guess. The level 13 abilities also seem underwhelming and probably never going to be used by anyone since by the time you're level 13 you'd have a lot of burst damage options (and stun from Deep Impact) to end fights before you ever even get debuffed by enemies.

 

[Osk0]

I hope this isn't too much of a necro but I saw in the newest patch notes that telekinetic warrior got some buffs. Has anyone tested how trying to play an unarmed psi monk kind of character is doing after the buffs?

 

[Theron]

I hope this isn't too much of a necro but I saw in the newest patch notes that telekinetic warrior got some buffs. Has anyone tested how trying to play an unarmed psi monk kind of character is doing after the buffs?

I haven't tested it, but I don't think the buff makes much of a difference. Accuracy is now equal to Level instead of Int/10. But that's not why it was 'slept on'.

Damage = 4 (Level/2 + psiWillpower/2)
Level 13, max Will = 48 Kinetic, Crushing damage, 13 Accuracy

If all you care about is damage, that's pretty good. It's the 2nd highest Ranged weapon, and the only Melee weapon that beats it gets only one attack/round (and isn't actually available).
You're missing out on bonus stats like Evasion/Crit and/or Flags. If you want to hit Flying targets, that's what Levitate is for. Kinetic damage is commonly resisted and almost never a weakness (I know of two). Because 'Telekinetic Warrior' is coded as a replacement weapon, you still have to max Physique/Aim. (Though raising Physique is a good idea anyway, because it's also used defensively.)

I'm sure it's perfectly functional if you want it for flavor/roleplay reasons, but it's not nearly equal to Third Eye Aim.

Edit:

Spoiler: Math

Base Telekinetic Warrior damage:
48 + (65/2) = 80.5
*1.05 (5% Crit) = 84.525

Entropic Leech: 53 (1 + Level + psiWillpower/2 (+2 if Level >= 8))
Assuming it always inflicts Deep Freeze (25%, if psiWill = target Physique)
53 + 84.525*2 = 222.05
222/2 = 111 damage/round, +2-5 Energy every other round

Entropic Whip: 209 (20 + Level*3 + PsiWillpower*2)
Assuming it always inflicts Deep Freeze (50%, if psiWill = target Physique)
209 + 84.525*2 = 378.05
378/2 = 189/round, 25 Energy every other round

Haste: 25 Energy, 10 rounds
169.05

Entropic Leech
53 + 84.525*3 = 306.575
/2 = 153.29/round

Entropic Whip
209 + 84.525*3 = 462.575
/2 = 231.28

Entropic Leech is a net decrease with Haste up. Entropic Whip does more, but you're also using up your Haste rounds.

Ki-Bow
(50 + 32.5) * 1.17 = 96.525 (5% + 12% Crit Bonus)
*2 = 193.05

Xukwood Staff
Damage: (14+13+32.5)*1.2 = 71.4 (5% + 15% Crit Bonus)
*2 = 142.8

Plasma Katana
67.6 * 1.2 = 81.12 + Burn DoT
*2 = 162.24 + Burn DoT (stacks)

Bonus Crit = More chance for Deep Impact

 

[Voyager]

Me think if Kineticist would be nicer to play as an actual caster class if Force dart, the special attack that should be this class standard damaging option, are made to be a lot more customizable.

I do realize the name of the class is Kineticist but the fact that other class can easily change weapon to have damage element fitted for each fight, meanwhile, Force dart and all other special attack of Kineticist have their damage type locked down. It does feel relatively fine earlier in the game, however, in the later part of the game where enemy start to have very specific damage type resist & weakness, casting attack that can only deal one type damage feel very weak compare to just grab a weapon (especially crafted hardlight weapon) with advantageous damage type and smash them (With Haste if possible).

It would be cool if we could, say, change how our force dart function. Taking a page of out D&D Eldritch blast maybe.
A weapon or system that allow you to change its damage type, allow it to inflict some debuff, Kinetic res peneration, exchange the amount for accuracy, damage, or crit chance, etc.

Also, while I can see that some ability are design to combo ( Entropic Leech/Whip freeze -> Acid Cloud/Level 12 ability, Gravity Flux -> Geothermal Spike, etc) and it does feel great when it work, it also feel really when it seem you cannot inflict the status effect that prime the combo. And I feel like for a class that suppose to focus on casting ability, it's spell combo should be longer than just 2 special attack one after another.

At least this is my impression of the current state of the class after clearing Phaedra's train mission with a newly create char as of the time of writing.