Jstar's Treasure Trove
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I vote: 'Like a platonic friend, with mutual respect and non-sexual discourse. With a newer, calmer outlook and demeanor, with a desire to better themselves. Possibly through prayer or religion.'
Taking odds.
There's 3 states the corrupted lupines can be in: Recruited, Imprisoned, and Genderbent. Recruited and Genderbent have them roaming the Wayfort, serving as guards (and as a part of your harem if you genderbent them). If they're imprisoned, most of them are resentful, but they're getting treatment for their corruption. If they're not imprisoned, they respect and are loyal to you.
Kind of curious as to why the male wolves are not considered the part of our harem, since their female forms are going to be considered as such. But, eh, if the content turns out to be to, for the lack of better word, cu££-like, I can always turn them into what they are supposed to be.
Aha, thats all swell and bad and fuck that. If I get a male characters, I want to bone male characters.
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They technically are, but I let it be implied while genderbending them is a more direct action of acquiring them for the harem. The reason I leave it as implies is because if a player recruits them, there's still the potential that they did it because they're utilitarian in the idea of having strong wolfmen as soldiers for the wayfort. However, you're more than capable of having the male corrupted lupines be your fuck buddies.
But at same time, I am not sure why would anyone with disinterest in men really take them for their utilitarian purpose. Now I am not sure if us having an army will play a major role in the future, but I think with you writing the female counterparts really leaves any notion of complaining about "oh the game considers these male bitches are my bitches -- oh the horror!" Out of the window. For I think the same logic could be applied to their female counterparts. Maybe a player just wants to have a female guard instead, without the intentions to fuck them.
But I get that the concept of male harems is not that common. Because of the humanities fucked up history, the idea that "women are more willing to be subjugated/make love under a rule of one man" is a more accepted over the idea of one girl or guy having the harem of multiple hunks.
And lastly, that fuck buddies idea does not feel like an appropriate way to look at it. Unless you would consider the female wolves "fuck buddies" also.
Edit: I am being to negative. Now, of course, while the male lupines from the sound of it will not be something I am into (I like being the center of attention and on top of things when dealing with either guys or gals), but the harem of Amazons is something I am very much looking forward to.
But I get that the concept of male harems is not that common. Because of the humanities fucked up history, the idea that "women are more willing to be subjugated/make love under a rule of one man" is a more accepted over the idea of one girl or guy having the harem of multiple hunks.
And lastly, that fuck buddies idea does not feel like an appropriate way to look at it. Unless you would consider the female wolves "fuck buddies" also.
Edit: I am being to negative. Now, of course, while the male lupines from the sound of it will not be something I am into (I like being the center of attention and on top of things when dealing with either guys or gals), but the harem of Amazons is something I am very much looking forward to.
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You would rather do that then to fuck them? What exactly is the appeal?
Fuck buddies is a lovely term. It is just, when trying to describe what a harem is, fuck buddies is not a term I would use.
Here is how I would describe it.
"My slaves"
"My loyal concubines"
"My collection of lovers"
Fuck buddies just isn't a fitting thing.
The appeal is RP as like Jstar has mentioned having a pack of powerful werewolf rapists as your loyal bodyguard force is awesome for my Corrupted Lupine Male DK. I don`t intend on having my pc being bi or whatever the writers ordain and as you have already mentioned an all female force will not thematically achieve the above for me so changing them is a 2nd place reward for me if the male option is possible. Despite this being a porn game not everything has to be sexually based, one of this game's biggest interest/talking points on the forum is of an optional easy to miss dialogue "battle" with a
being with no lewd content beside her art.
"god"
But at same time, this is a porn game. If you are going to write male characters for purpose of appealing to people not interested in them sexualy, I feel like you are focusing on a wrong crowd.
This more so stands here for one simple reason: while the female enjoyers get the whole harem of wolf girls for themselves without any preconceived notion that it is anything more than that, a power fantasy for male Champs, the male content has to juggle between being appealing to the general audience while also appealing to all the boy fuckers out there.
And that is lame.
This more so stands here for one simple reason: while the female enjoyers get the whole harem of wolf girls for themselves without any preconceived notion that it is anything more than that, a power fantasy for male Champs, the male content has to juggle between being appealing to the general audience while also appealing to all the boy fuckers out there.
And that is lame.
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It seems like your complaint is that the males wont be as outwardly horny or subservient to you, but we don't actually know what any of their dialogue or scenes look like for either route. You're being kind of presumptuous here.
I am, which is something people brought up and I am going to try reel in.
But also, yes, them being less subservient compared to their female counterparts would be something I would bring up if it comes to fruition.
But also, yes, since I do not know how they will act, I will just wait.
But also, yes, them being less subservient compared to their female counterparts would be something I would bring up if it comes to fruition.
But also, yes, since I do not know how they will act, I will just wait.
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Although I don't necesarily agree with your premise that simply recruiting them contains same amounts of sexual connotation as gender-bending them since you are explicity molding a character to be more to your liking, I won't deny that a double standart exists since the case of an "aggresive" male character becoming extremely submissive when genderbent already exists in Brint/Brienne.
I will have to disagree:
Here is what champion does, from what I know, to them.
They enter their domain.
Beats their assess.
Beats the asses of their supperiors.
And spares their lives even thogh they raped and assulted people.
And while this is me slightly going back on my promise from above, I will have to add -- the only differnce in events between the genderbend end and their recruitment is the genderbend. And while I can see where you are coming from with the logic "oh, the champ is bending them to their will", the seemingly only reason why the champion is able to invoke and enforce it over them is because they won.
Champion is able to exile them because they have all the power. It is the champs will that leads to them being under their wing. Genderbend, to me, should be just be an option between if you want a male harem or a female one. Or male guards or female guards. Whatever.
That is the reason why I would be bothered if the male lupines acted less respectfull or haremy torwards the champion. As you said bellow.
The double standard would show. And I would dislike that if it happens. As stated, I am going to wait and see.
PS: Nice to see that I am not only one bothered by the Brint/Brienne transformation.
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A lot of people dislike the genderbending aspect of Brienne, actually the common consensus I've seen from the forums were for their gender to be selectable when we first meet them, kinda like Lyric. Although I can't say if that dislike stems from those unfortunate implications (the aforementioned double standart) or a general moral apprehension (genderbending someone without their consent).
I can not speak for others, but for me personally, the main reason I dislike Brint into Brienne is because, well, the complete 180 in personality. We go from a dominant manwhore to a submissive, only for you wife. And that bothers me. I would have loved if Either Brint acted like Brienne or Vice versa. A submisses ambush or a bara husbando is some top tier stuff. As it is, the double standard just bothers me.
That's a reasonably fair assessment. I might agree if it was something simple and 'safe' or at least tried and true, like some alchemical concoction (but even those don't always work fully, or at least not without side effects, like with the Marefolk stylists). In Brienne's case, we are talking about a cursed, probably faulty prototype magical armorfrom years and years ago for changing men to women. We don't know what flaws it either had (or developed over time sitting in a cave) that might also have had side effects (or wasn't intended for minotaurs). The armor likely had psychological altering properties since it was probably made to deal with male marefolk and their dominant aggressive attitude, so maybe in a different race it did go a bit far. Maybe that's why that method and use was ultimately set aside in favor of a more alchemical 'castration'.
As for the gender option on meeting, Brint was probably already in the works or game before Harvest Valley or the idea for Brienne took fruition, and then going back and having to add in checks and parsers was probably viewed as unnecessarily complicated (as opposed to having a companion check for her own scenes) and just taking it into account moving forward, rather than backwards. (but that's just speculation on my part).
Preemptive complaining serves no purpose. It's better to wait, read, and then voice concerns if necessary.
The main writers were quite clear that they don't aim for any kind of kink balance – it wasn't their goal and it never will be.
Furthermore, Jstar is a community writer (unless something changed), and he has zero obligations towards anybody regarding his content.
My assumption about Brint/Brienne is that the goal was for them to be two distinct characters, not just gender swapped. As for how that came about and the complaints, people may be reading too much into it – interpreting game mechanics and safeguards as significant plot points. We already have enough monthly threads about "Why my PC has tits?" and "Why my game doesn't update?" – we don't need another ones about "Why Brint is now Brienne".
The main writers were quite clear that they don't aim for any kind of kink balance – it wasn't their goal and it never will be.
Furthermore, Jstar is a community writer (unless something changed), and he has zero obligations towards anybody regarding his content.
My assumption about Brint/Brienne is that the goal was for them to be two distinct characters, not just gender swapped. As for how that came about and the complaints, people may be reading too much into it – interpreting game mechanics and safeguards as significant plot points. We already have enough monthly threads about "Why my PC has tits?" and "Why my game doesn't update?" – we don't need another ones about "Why Brint is now Brienne".
Guys, while I know I originally posed the question rhetorically, we probably should stop discussing Brint/Brienne here. Kind of derailing Jstar's thread a bit. Could always create a new thread if you want to continue the conversation. 
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There are. Besides generic male Lupines, there is Refnir (a captain of the lupines) and an Asgair (the boss of lupines, appeerently). There is a third captain but I have no clue of he or she is going to be fuckable or not.
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There's Asgeir/Asynja (full lupine), Refnir (full lupine), and Olivia (Half-Lupine).
I'm gonna include an unlockable paw-print womb tattoo design at the Stylists as a reward for beating the Knot Cave
Eh, still wasn't done well IMO. Takes too much mental gymnastics to think you're in the right or to convince yourself it was an accident for changing him.
Hope there is going to be none of undefined morality nonsense in Knot Cave, if I do evil shit in Knot Cave it should be called evil or treated as vile and vice-versa.
Part of why it seems not morally ambiguous is because there are a whole bunch of gameplay failsafes to make sure you don't trigger it by accident, which means if you do it's entirely because you intended to do so. Realistically it should just be on a timer, but because of all the checks you have to come up with an extremely convoluted series of events to justify it happening. I remember timing my arrival back in Hawkethorne with Atugia showing up so I couldn't see Sanders when I got back and then the Garret quest triggering in the morning so that I had an excuse not to go see Sanders because saving Garret was urgent.
Is the Knot Cave gonna give any gear? I think a wolf tooth necklace would be cool, maybe giving armor penetration or something. Or maybe something like wolf pelt barbarian type armor that gives more attack than defense.
Is the Knot Cave gonna give any gear? I think a wolf tooth necklace would be cool, maybe giving armor penetration or something. Or maybe something like wolf pelt barbarian type armor that gives more attack than defense.
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Possible Rewards as a result of the Knot Cave:
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You forgot the Double-Dog Dare Eyepatch.
Since one eyepatch is cool and intimidating, a double eyepatch that covers both eyes is twice as awesome.
It may have a ...teensy-weensy, somewhat detrimental effect on Accuracy... but the Presence boost...