CoC: Unofficially Expanded Edition (v1.4.19 for CoC 1.0.2)
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<3 Fenrir ^^
PS: About the ice spines on his back I could improve the rearBody body part of my Dragon Mod and then file a PR to CoC Revamp for it.
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yeah the name alone told me to expect trouble. though i do have to admit i could use more of a challenge in this game... Course i also tend to play full on god mode ... Well it's good to see this is picking up speed again.
on a some what related note i could use some suggestions/comments on my Minitaur project becaause i hope to make it enjoyable for everyone.
on a some what related note i could use some suggestions/comments on my Minitaur project becaause i hope to make it enjoyable for everyone.
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There's a male ice wolf?
Well, at least I assume, that Fenrir is male. Check Think-tank: Adding new races, TFs and locations to CoC for more details about Liadri's Fenrir
In my personal opinion, I've always found CoC too easy. There was practically no challenge left once you get to level 25+ and that's why I worked to add plenty of challenging content. Ember Spar Intensity was a way of making sure Ember spar sessions get harder each time you defeat her.
Kaizo is entirely optional and you'd have to complete it to earn an achievement and to unlock the background.
It's more than just difficulty enhancement. It'll alter the storyline and several NPCs. It'll change some lore. It's meant to set 5 years after the regular game mode where Lethice continues her rule over Mareth. Ingnam will be meant to replace the camp. I would consider having Rathazul be dead and his recipes scattered across the world. You would have to find the recipes to be able to craft items. How dark is Kaizo CoC? The grimdark type, like Warhammer 40k.
Actually leveling past level 25+ gets more and more pointless, when you have all or almost all perks and your stats maxed out.
I'd suggest to add some more high level perks and probably finetune max stats by level in addition to +25 each NG+ level. For example +5 every 5 levels or something like that. Same goes for monsters of course.
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Well some people like to have hard game so they will find Kaizo mode interesting but I see it could be really less than half. I would probably look for a sake of having perspective.
You said you lacked challange @Kitteh6660? Evangeling tests of spar before I nerfed her hard was challenge. Unless enemy not having any hax skills just stats that PC could get and perks that PC can have dishing out around 2k dmg around lvl 6-8 already (other issue was that she by then already hit near top of her max dmg output so it was only scary till PC reached point of been able soak up her dmg output for long enough to beat her).
On wolf stuff. Yup there is already coded rough version of winter wolf enc in Glacial Rift and he is male huuuuuge wolf (some around 10 feet tall and that him standing on all four legs - nope he not gonna try pull stuns to try stand in more humanoid pose sing only hind legs). And he's dropping TF for becoming winter wolf (to be Fenrir will be needed one more thing than simple eating tons of Chilly Peppers )
@Liadri Wait you made more fixes for Scylla? Or you meant THIS one fix I not get to yet? xD
You said you lacked challange @Kitteh6660? Evangeling tests of spar before I nerfed her hard was challenge. Unless enemy not having any hax skills just stats that PC could get and perks that PC can have dishing out around 2k dmg around lvl 6-8 already (other issue was that she by then already hit near top of her max dmg output so it was only scary till PC reached point of been able soak up her dmg output for long enough to beat her).
On wolf stuff. Yup there is already coded rough version of winter wolf enc in Glacial Rift and he is male huuuuuge wolf (some around 10 feet tall and that him standing on all four legs - nope he not gonna try pull stuns to try stand in more humanoid pose sing only hind legs). And he's dropping TF for becoming winter wolf (to be Fenrir will be needed one more thing than simple eating tons of Chilly Peppers
)@Liadri Wait you made more fixes for Scylla? Or you meant THIS one fix I not get to yet? xD
Ok, just thought a bit more about this: It probably should be something, like: maxStats += 5*Math.floor(level / 5) with the minimum bonus being NG+-level * 25
Ormael i just meant it as in ''fix the sex and tease scenes mixing scylla with centaur sometime'' but maybe that was fixed since so ill have to check it out
about the winter wolf encounter it will be a possible foe to face off in the glacial rift. Sadly Fenrir isnt a foe you can face off in battle due to some... circonstances.
Interestingly enought Wolf girl/Wolf boy/ wolf/ Winter wolf/ Fenrir will be the first tf since god mead (wich isnt realy a tf) to be obtainable in glacial rift.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19uchzhofolix9hCYmt4bWxqMMZzrfeX62LiNyeeKReo/edit?usp=sharing
As for adding new perks thats my speciality but It doesnt mather how many perk I design if the devs aren't ready to implement them. Considering the fact Ormael is soon to add the archery expension in 0.7d maybe its a little early to talk about implementing a full new set of perks. As for Kitteh side im not realy ever sure when hes interested or not as the reply are scarce and sometime absent. I dont feel like writing entire Gdocs of information if they just gunna end up on a shelve with a ''maybe'' as the response to weither or not it will be implemented creating TF takes time and energy and I dont feel like wasting mine if it's gunna end up with a inexistant reply. I discuss idea trought with ormael before I write them and as such nothing ever makes it into the game witheout his approval first (heck if something doesnt get trought I dont make an entire Gdoc about I just don't do it).When i get the go however i can get a Gdoc ready in a single day ready for coding im very commited about it.
About the lack of perks keep in mind I tested CoC Xianxia inside out and theres way more perk then necesary for the lvl 1 to 30 (to the point i sometime feel like i need to go to ng+ to finish readying my character for lethice and might be unprepared). Bet i could keep learning new perk up to lvl 50 actualy witheout any new game + ones.
Considering all the racial perks (10 so far), the job perks (10), the new combat perks wich you may or may not pick up depending on specialisation (3) and the full line of Soul force related perk (never counted them all) you'l have a lot of levels to do. Right now this isnt a mather of having perks to pick up on as much as a question of specialisation. we need more specialised perk to each branch as options for the player to pick upon rather then enforcing said player into multiclassing.
about the winter wolf encounter it will be a possible foe to face off in the glacial rift. Sadly Fenrir isnt a foe you can face off in battle due to some... circonstances.
Interestingly enought Wolf girl/Wolf boy/ wolf/ Winter wolf/ Fenrir will be the first tf since god mead (wich isnt realy a tf) to be obtainable in glacial rift.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19uchzhofolix9hCYmt4bWxqMMZzrfeX62LiNyeeKReo/edit?usp=sharing
As for adding new perks thats my speciality but It doesnt mather how many perk I design if the devs aren't ready to implement them. Considering the fact Ormael is soon to add the archery expension in 0.7d maybe its a little early to talk about implementing a full new set of perks. As for Kitteh side im not realy ever sure when hes interested or not as the reply are scarce and sometime absent. I dont feel like writing entire Gdocs of information if they just gunna end up on a shelve with a ''maybe'' as the response to weither or not it will be implemented creating TF takes time and energy and I dont feel like wasting mine if it's gunna end up with a inexistant reply. I discuss idea trought with ormael before I write them and as such nothing ever makes it into the game witheout his approval first (heck if something doesnt get trought I dont make an entire Gdoc about I just don't do it).When i get the go however i can get a Gdoc ready in a single day ready for coding im very commited about it.
About the lack of perks keep in mind I tested CoC Xianxia inside out and theres way more perk then necesary for the lvl 1 to 30 (to the point i sometime feel like i need to go to ng+ to finish readying my character for lethice and might be unprepared). Bet i could keep learning new perk up to lvl 50 actualy witheout any new game + ones.
Considering all the racial perks (10 so far), the job perks (10), the new combat perks wich you may or may not pick up depending on specialisation (3) and the full line of Soul force related perk (never counted them all) you'l have a lot of levels to do. Right now this isnt a mather of having perks to pick up on as much as a question of specialisation. we need more specialised perk to each branch as options for the player to pick upon rather then enforcing said player into multiclassing.
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There are plenty of CoC players who not only play it at the hardest difficulty that Kitteh added with his mod, but add additional self imposed restrictions to make it even harder (and more fun)....such as must restart if you ever lose a fight or save editing to create an especially weak starting character. There was a section of this thread, or perhaps was a seperate one (don't remember) some months ago where players were discussing various ways they set up their own play throughs to make it more challenging. If all you're looking for is "a good fap", then why bother with the revamp mod at all? The mod is about making the game more fun as a game, not just adding a few more porn scenes here and there.
Oh, and Kitteh...great work on the revamp mod. Looking eagerly forward to kaizo!
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And those players probably should play something with intrinsically better, tighter gameplay like... well, the bar is low, you can start from any RPGmaker game and go from there in terms of quality.
You've made a weird audience to cater towards.
You've made a weird audience to cater towards.
And who's not weird for one reason or another by this point?
Besides, is there really a "best" audience to make happy? Most -- and, by most, I really mean "all" -- games I've seen, porn or not and no matter how good the game actually is, try to cater to as many crowds that can be only to get shat on by the one that feels left out. It's impossible to make everyone happy and most attempts to do so often end in a not so good way. Not that people are truly that selfish (though maybe some are), it's just that we get caught up into wanting every game we play to be the "One" that is exactly what we want and hate it when it turns out that a game isn't. Eh, it's how we humans are.
Besides, is there really a "best" audience to make happy? Most -- and, by most, I really mean "all" -- games I've seen, porn or not and no matter how good the game actually is, try to cater to as many crowds that can be only to get shat on by the one that feels left out. It's impossible to make everyone happy and most attempts to do so often end in a not so good way. Not that people are truly that selfish (though maybe some are), it's just that we get caught up into wanting every game we play to be the "One" that is exactly what we want and hate it when it turns out that a game isn't. Eh, it's how we humans are.
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I play the mod for the added TF items and the new males your Champion might have sex with, plus the giant RPG bonus with assorted items and quests. Just like the regular CoC, in fact.
I understand the Dark Souls reference. But my first thought on hearing about conveniently barred access to certain locations undone by keys made me think of Zelda.
Sounds interesting.
One question that came to mind: does the NG+ affect enemies like in Urta's Fertility Quest?
Sounds interesting.
One question that came to mind: does the NG+ affect enemies like in Urta's Fertility Quest?
Off topic, but a quickie...is Edge just for Win10 or can it run on Win7?
I tried 10 and went back to 7. Not that it was bad, mind you. There wasn't really anything wrong with it and I even liked the look a bit (except I couldn't get Eve Online to run though), just didn't like the idea of using a new OS that perhaps might not be as stable as 7 but without offering anything that was really better that I could see. I don't know, maybe in a year or two I'll wise up and get it then.
I tried 10 and went back to 7. Not that it was bad, mind you. There wasn't really anything wrong with it and I even liked the look a bit (except I couldn't get Eve Online to run though), just didn't like the idea of using a new OS that perhaps might not be as stable as 7 but without offering anything that was really better that I could see. I don't know, maybe in a year or two I'll wise up and get it then.
Does Ember's dragon training have an end? Up to 80 at the moment on my first play through at level 35 and was trying to figure out if there was an achievement added to it (including shadow ones)?
Edit: Cap was 100 and no shadow achievements for beating him/her past that point (so far).
Edit: Cap was 100 and no shadow achievements for beating him/her past that point (so far).
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Hmmm... the new version or game mode makes me torn honestly.
On the one hand. I love the idea of making the gameplay more challenging, and fleshing out the story. Making you need a few keys, and changing the interactions with other NPCs.
On the other hand. I don't like the big fat walls that have appeared out of fucking nowhere and hamper your progress.
I also don't really like the idea of there being skeletons and such everywhere. That doesn't really fell CoC to me... it a different game thematically now.
And honestly, if your making that many changes.
Why not just cut ties to CoC altogether and make your own game?
On the one hand. I love the idea of making the gameplay more challenging, and fleshing out the story. Making you need a few keys, and changing the interactions with other NPCs.
On the other hand. I don't like the big fat walls that have appeared out of fucking nowhere and hamper your progress.
I also don't really like the idea of there being skeletons and such everywhere. That doesn't really fell CoC to me... it a different game thematically now.
And honestly, if your making that many changes.
Why not just cut ties to CoC altogether and make your own game?
'Cause it's still based on CoC, built completely on CoC content, and contains everything from CoC proper? Pretty sure gutting that much out wouldn't leave enough of a game to even be playable. Kitteh would probably be better off starting on his own game from scratch at that point.
Also, Kaizo mode is entirely optional. It won't be a mandatory feature.
Looking through the raw data section of CoCED and the revamp mod I saw a flag for bimbofying Benoite. Is this in the mod currently, or just something that was planned at some point? if it's in, what triggers the conversation for it?
Kaizo mode might be optional, and it might be based of CoC. But the amount of changes is significant. Completely and utterly changing the feel and the experience of the game from a freeroaming sexual adventure, a bit like the original LoZ, but with sex. To something darker, with metrodivania exploration somewhat, and a Dark-Souls esque atomsphere. I mean, CoC isn't exactly a bright, cheerful game. But it was never as dark or dismal as Kaizo mode was suggesting.
Seriously. Why both making it a revamp? Why not make it your own game?
Seriously. Why both making it a revamp? Why not make it your own game?
Oh boy seems like Kiazo mode keep makin flames go up. Not like I didn't predicted it long ago but...luckly Revamp isn't mine so what it woner do not much affecting other mods ^^
Making game mode that jsut push enemies into bigger powerhouses coudl be by some seen as boring since all the change in difficulty it how hard enemy could hit or how much punishment can take. I think most of the games with adjustable difficulty got this so making highest one diff quite radicaly changing gameplay...sound a lil too risky.
Making game mode that jsut push enemies into bigger powerhouses coudl be by some seen as boring since all the change in difficulty it how hard enemy could hit or how much punishment can take. I think most of the games with adjustable difficulty got this so making highest one diff quite radicaly changing gameplay...sound a lil too risky.
And I thought things were crazy when folks were complaining the game's nouns and pronouns didn't match their character's non-binary gender.
It is what it is. It was Fenoxo's choice to release an open version of this game, respectfully, anyone with it can do whatever they want. You can complain about it, but Kaizo's going to happen. Might as well either move on to something else, or see what you can do to help, instead of complaining about an optional setup that's not going to be deterred.
It is what it is. It was Fenoxo's choice to release an open version of this game, respectfully, anyone with it can do whatever they want. You can complain about it, but Kaizo's going to happen. Might as well either move on to something else, or see what you can do to help, instead of complaining about an optional setup that's not going to be deterred.
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