Question about Myrellian Finale

[Morrigan]

A while back, there was a huge debate about whether or not players should have the option of creating at least a semi-lasting peace between the gold and red myr factions.  As I recall, the biggest hindrance to that was the fact that Fenoxo hated the reds and loved the golds, while another dev (I forget exactly who) had the opposite stance.  Was that ever resolved one way or another?  And if so, is there a guide anywhere about how to get one outcome or another?


Also, I had a locked option for peacefully negotiating with Taivra.  Who did I have to meet in order to unlock it?


EDIT: NM on the last bit-found a pointer elsewhere.

 

[Couch]

Savin is very pro-red and anti-gold.  Fen is very pro-gold and anti-red, for a definition of pro-gold that probably sees them being the fucktoys of his favorite racoons as a good outcome.  I'm not especially pro-gold, and don't really care what happens to them, but I'm harshly anti-red.  So on and so forth.  No two writers appear to feel exactly the same about the myr as one another.


That said, sure, it's possible there will be an option for Steele to do that.  As of this time, however, nobody's really working on a resolution of any kind for the myr.  Fen's been busy with Emmy for the past month or so, Savin's been tied up among all sorts of projects, and all of us writers are busy with either Uveto content or our own personal projects.  I've spent most of the time since Uveto's doc was put up working on building Steele Tech's presence there, for instance.  Moving the myr story forward's not anybody's priority that I know of.

 

[Morrigan]

So in other words, the field is open for play to anyone who wants to try their hand at writing a peaceful resolution?

 

[Couch]

Maybe.  Fen may want to do it personally, though, since it would be a massive story event, on top of which we don't have any writers that I know of who really want to do it ourselves.


Basically don't hold your breath.  Ant planet may be in limbo for a long time to come.

 

[Nonesuch]

So in other words, the field is open for play to anyone who wants to try their hand at writing a peaceful resolution?

I really wouldn't bother. Fen and Savin aren't going to let some randomer write something as significant as that. Start small, if you've got an interest in writing for TiTS.

 

[Savin]

So in other words, the field is open for play to anyone who wants to try their hand at writing a peaceful resolution?

No.


Some kind of war resolution path will come eventually, but it's not a super-high priority ATM.

 

[Consciousone]

I am assuming that, since the lead writers can't agree on a one true path, so to say, the option to write in more than one path and letting Steele choose for himself has been considered?

 

[Couch]

Yes.  Note that this pushes it back even further because each branch is like a whole new project.

 

[Savin]

I am assuming that, since the lead writers can't agree on a one true path, so to say, the option to write in more than one path and letting Steele choose for himself has been considered?

There was never going to be "one true path" -- the idea was always to have Red, Gold, and Neutral paths. A neutral path will likely come first.

 

[TheInfamousImmortal]

There was never going to be "one true path" -- the idea was always to have Red, Gold, and Neutral paths. A neutral path will likely come first.

The Neutral path would be the "Peace" path or something else?

 

[Morrigan]

Maybe.  Fen may want to do it personally, though, since it would be a massive story event, on top of which we don't have any writers that I know of who really want to do it ourselves.


Basically don't hold your breath.  Ant planet may be in limbo for a long time to come.

See, this is why I want to start writing up a resolution.  I've got no problems with quality control from the creators, the quality of the game itself, or the general pace at which they work, but since everyone says either IDK or far in the future holy shitballs I want to do something constructive to speed the process up.


Even if you folks won't even look at/consider anything beyond a really rough outline and a few sentences of brainstorming concerning individual character changes and maybe a few scene outlines.  I think something like that wouldn't take up more than 30 seconds->1 minute of a reviewer's time.

 

[Morrigan]

I really wouldn't bother. Fen and Savin aren't going to let some randomer write something as significant as that. Start small, if you've got an interest in writing for TiTS.

What would you define as "small"?

 

[Corivas]

What would you define as "small"?

Like TF's, simple scenes for characters, shit like that.

 

[Morrigan]

Like TF's, simple scenes for characters, shit like that.

I'm going to need some examples for "simple scenes".  If I'm writing for someone else's approval, I need some parameters to work with.

 

[Corivas]

I'm going to need some examples for "simple scenes".  If I'm writing for someone else's approval, I need some parameters to work with.

Talk scenes, bad ends, maybe even sex scenes though that's might be a little bit more advanced.

 

[EmperorG]

 And if so, is there a guide anywhere about how to get one outcome or another?

When it does eventually get written, there likely will be a guide, but I can tell you that from what I've heard there's a bit of a dice roll in terms of the outcome. Apparently the devs have the idea that Cap'n Steel won't be able to fully decide the outcome, just influence it slightly, and you might end up with the opposite of what you want simply because it's a little random. I expect much save scumming to ensue, since while the idea makes sense, most people will still want what they want.

 

[Savin]

I'm going to need some examples for "simple scenes".  If I'm writing for someone else's approval, I need some parameters to work with.

See my signature for a giant list of documents you can peruse, but the general gist would be "go to Syri/[Your Waifu Here] and click a sex scene, use that as a guide to write something original like it."

 

[null_blank]

Force everyone to watch War Games until everyone is convinced that the only winning move is not to play.

 

[Morrigan]

See my signature for a giant list of documents you can peruse, but the general gist would be "go to Syri/[Your Waifu Here] and click a sex scene, use that as a guide to write something original like it."

Thanks.

 

[Xeivous]

I'll be honest that I kinda hate both the ant factions as a whole. Bolstering the Nyrea with fancy space tech and letting our lovely wife conquer both sides is honestly my prefered outcome.

 

[Enigmatic D]

I'll be honest that I kinda hate both the ant factions as a whole. Bolstering the Nyrea with fancy space tech and letting our lovely wife conquer both sides is honestly my prefered outcome.

Rooting for the underdog, are you?

 

[Xeivous]

Rooting for the underdog, are you?

I suppose so. I just find the Nyrea far more likable. Plus it'll make up for not having a ring.


Also if the Nyrea rule the planet, it means I rule the planet, which means my corporation gets mining rights without any sort of trouble.

 

[Ormael]

Also if the Nyrea rule the planet, it means I rule the planet, which means my corporation gets mining rights without any sort of trouble.

Heh I imagine scenarion when PC actively push for Nyrea take over over whole planet as rulers with Tavira as been that one of Nyrea queens that will be the ruler Well we just explore small part of planet so it normal to assume other regions got their own Nyrea colonies ruled by other queens. And well why Tavira? Her colony is lorewise like right under nose of place where outworlder landed so taking into account their would probably 'slight' intervene into this takeover why not give main right to rule to nyrea queen of nearest colony?


And then scene when PC after all coronation of Tavira and etc. come visit her and show 'gratitude' for queen of making her 'king' owner of the whole planet as well. Prefferable that scene should be with many others around to know who really is planet KING ^^ (prefferable some represants of few galaxy corporations that came to see queen to talk about right to 'harvest' various resources from the planet and then having this moment of OMPH this Steele heir is the real owner here after all *evil grin*)

 

[SorenMageofMareth]

That's impossible.  Nyrean domination that is.  The Federation would crush them.  They already have Nyrea deeply integrated so mostly no one will care.  Some spaces like you have more than likely taken enough off planet ofr a viable population. 

 

[Corivas]

That's impossible.  Nyrean domination that is.  The Federation would crush them.  They already have Nyrea deeply integrated so mostly no one will care.  Some spaces like you have more than likely taken enough off planet ofr a viable population. 

That's what they want you to think.

 

[Morrigan]

That's impossible.  Nyrean domination that is.  The Federation would crush them.  They already have Nyrea deeply integrated so mostly no one will care.  Some spaces like you have more than likely taken enough off planet ofr a viable population. 

Steele Tech is one of if not the biggest corporations in the galaxy.  Once you prove your worth to the company by getting the various secondary options throughout the game, you could easily and completely logically set up a combination of buying out shares on the planet and a couple of covert sabotage missions to get a lock on Myrellia, and go from there.


The only hindrance is whether or not it will fit into the three stated paths that Fen, Savin, and co. are currently planning.  If so, it would have to be written in from the ground up to be an integral part of whatever path includes it.

 

[Lashcharge]

Steele Tech is one of if not the biggest corporations in the galaxy.  Once you prove your worth to the company by getting the various secondary options throughout the game, you could easily and completely logically set up a combination of buying out shares on the planet and a couple of covert sabotage missions to get a lock on Myrellia, and go from there.


The only hindrance is whether or not it will fit into the three stated paths that Fen, Savin, and co. are currently planning.  If so, it would have to be written in from the ground up to be an integral part of whatever path includes it.

Steele Tech according to the Lore Bible is not that big, when compared to the biggest megacorps. It's specifically stated to be intentionally smaller than the others, because Victor wanted to avoid as many court fights as possible. (at least that's how I remember reading it)

 

[Morrigan]

Steele Tech according to the Lore Bible is not that big, when compared to the biggest megacorps. It's specifically stated to be intentionally smaller than the others, because Victor wanted to avoid as many court fights as possible. (at least that's how I remember reading it)

I must have misremembered that part then.  However, the fact that its size is a deliberate choice means that its overall competence/power-per-pound (you get the idea) is both top-quality and capable of being very highly focused. 


The concept of a Steele lock on Myrellia is still just as feasible.

 

[Couch]

Your desire to write for Myrellion might want to start with remembering the planet's actual name.


Myrellion is Xenogen's show.  The gold myr only still exist as a species thanks to them.  If any megacorp comes out on top of the planet in the end, it's going to be them.  You don't own Steele Tech yet, and even if you did, you'd be making a huge investment of its limited power with not much chance of success, while pissing off the most dangerous megacorp in the galaxy.

 

[Morrigan]

Your desire to write for Myrellion might want to start with remembering the planet's actual name.


Myrellion is Xenogen's show.  The gold myr only still exist as a species thanks to them.  If any megacorp comes out on top of the planet in the end, it's going to be them.  You don't own Steele Tech yet, and even if you did, you'd be making a huge investment of its limited power with not much chance of success, while pissing off the most dangerous megacorp in the galaxy.

I'm well aware of the fact that it's spelled "Myrellion".  For reasons I haven't quite figured out, I have a hard time spelling it that way.  Call it a mental tic on my part.  ("We'll K-word them!")


And thanks for the clarification.