Your Gripes With CoC2
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It's not so bad. I've got a build now that has moved on from worrying about getting turned to toast turn one to now only worrying about missing my first attack (in which case, toast). Optional OHKO included as a fallback for the KM fight, but that might fall into being too cheesy.
Level 10 will introduce a Thief perk called Implacable, which causes the first attack against you every combat to miss automatically.
Naturally, Kasyrra gets this perk.
I do wonder why Kas was made to be this powerful. So far the champion has defeated quite a few powerful foes, but not a single fight has been as obscenely difficult as Kas. It's like the game doesn't want us to beat her in a fight. I guess I don't really see why in-universe she should be this powerful.
Man, the Champion of the first game must has been an absolute monster to be able to defeat Lethice's entire inner court and herself. I know it's not the same type of game, however I just can't help make the comparison.
Man, the Champion of the first game must has been an absolute monster to be able to defeat Lethice's entire inner court and herself. I know it's not the same type of game, however I just can't help make the comparison.
I think that's the point, actually. No idea if this is intentional, maybe I'm just reading too much into things, but I figure the idea is that the Champion of Ingnam is supposed to be a lot stronger than the Champion of Frost, and this is the game's way of demonstrating that.
Mareth is, for all intents and purposes, a hellworld. Like, getting sent there is supposed to be an execution (for your soul), you're not meant to survive. In spite of this, the Champion of Ingnam gets tossed in with nothing but the clothes on their back, then proceeds to beat the shit out of an imp at level 1, start collecting demon skulls like they're trading cards, build a personal stronghold, and start recruiting allies from the wilderness.
They rip through every dungeon in Mareth alone, and then proceed to knock Lethice off her throne in a 1 on 1 duel. SUPER intense trial by fire. CoC2's champion goes through a lot, but they're living in a place with actual civilization, and most of the demons they fight are either newborn imps or freshly turned I believe. Their origin ranges from no combat experience ever to a little bit of mercenary work in Belhar. Kasyrra literally lived through the fall of Mareth. She fought in a whole ass end-of-the-world war. And after becoming a demon, she's had who knows how long to ferment.
Also, I try not to compare stats from two different video games like this, but Lethice in CoC1 is level 25 if the page I'm looking at is correct. Kass in CoC2 is only level 20. The Champion of Ingnam can level infinitely, the Champion of Frost caps out at level 10. It's really hard not to draw some parallels there, considering Kasyrra wasn't strong enough to fight Lethice instead chose to just bail when the Champion of Ingnam showed up.
But hey, that's just a theory.
Whether it's intentional or not that does seem to be where things are headed.
I would say however that the Champion of Frost can be potentially more experienced than the Champion of Ingnam at their respective starts. The former potentionally have fought in many conflicts (soldier BG) on top of the 1 year of adventuring. The latter on the other hand spent 1 year training once they were selected as Champion, but aside from that simply lived in Ingnam (though I could be misremembering).
But, just as you said, this is all just a theory.
I would say however that the Champion of Frost can be potentially more experienced than the Champion of Ingnam at their respective starts. The former potentionally have fought in many conflicts (soldier BG) on top of the 1 year of adventuring. The latter on the other hand spent 1 year training once they were selected as Champion, but aside from that simply lived in Ingnam (though I could be misremembering).
But, just as you said, this is all just a theory.