What content would you like added?

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I do like how we start off just another, but still experienced, agent and build up our legacy from there. I hate being the chosen one. It's so lame compared to becoming a badass without some prophecy at your back.
What about some sort of a middle ground scenario where a rando gets zapped with some more generic but no less game-breaking set of powers?

Essentially, is the Champ's arc lame or cool by that metric?

So we in the end agree that bronze age setting in this game means squat?
That particular aspect of the setting gets utilized more and more thoroughly as time goes on and the devs focus more on minute world building. Plus a cool aesthetic ain't nothing even by itself.

So no, I don't agree that it is meaningless.
It would be a very pleasant surprise if we have our Dearest Futadom Gnoll friend from the Tel’Adre Gym come and work out with us. The one and only Heckle! Who doesnt love that beefy hunk of lean meat from the old days?
AFAIK we won't ever be getting Heckel or any other named CoC1 characters, and the Champ won't be visiting Mareth either.

Some other cool gnoll lady that is similar to her and covers the same kinks deciding to hang out with us in Hawkthorne or Khor'minos gym is entirely possible, even with the gnolls being a bunch barbaric tribal outcasts shun by most other folks. It will just need to be written.
 
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What about some sort of a middle ground scenario where a rando gets zapped with some more generic but no less game-breaking set of powers?

Essentially, is the Champ's arc lame or cool by that metric?


That particular aspect of the setting gets utilized more and more thoroughly as time goes on and the devs focus more on minute world building. Plus a cool aesthetic ain't nothing even by itself.

So no, I don't agree that it is meaningless.

AFAIK we won't ever be getting Heckel or any other named CoC1 characters, and the Champ won't be visiting Mareth either.*

Some other cool gnoll lady that is similar to her and covers the same kinks deciding to hang out with us in Hawkthorne or Khor'minos gym is entirely possible, even with the gnolls being a bunch barbaric tribal outcasts shun by most other folks. It will just need to be written.

*As a tangentially related question, I don't think I've seen the devs commenting on whether or not dream scenes featuring scenes or character cameos of CoC1 cast are allowed.
is it a copyright issue that won’t allow them to? Or they just don’t feel like kicking the dead horse about? Even so, if you toggle the “Silly” you get picked up by Syri, Anno and Kaede for a small 2 part orgy. That may be a different reason That’s allowed. I’ve been looking around the forums and Wiki, it even claims that Kasyrra was a mortal from the CoC1 world turned demon. There has to be correlation between the 2.
 

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What about some sort of a middle ground scenario where a rando gets zapped with some more generic but no less game-breaking set of powers?

It's fine because your still a rando. Just wrong place, wrong time.
 

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There has to be correlation between the 2.
Kasyrra is literally from Mareth, she even says as much in the game, multiple times. However, she is explicitly one of the only two crossovers that we're going to see along with Taoth, unless you count the portal shenanigans in one specific Bad End which adds a couple more cameos..

I suspect the reason there aren't more crossover elements is a combination of wanting CoC2 to be its own thing, the fact that the writing quality in the original game is nowhere near as good so why bring stuff back that isn't as good as new stuff you can make, a possible clusterfuck situation regarding ownership of characters (there's a reason that TiTS and CoC2 both require people to sign over all rights to anything you submit) and generally just not wanting to deal with that shit any more.
 
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That particular aspect of the setting gets utilized more and more thoroughly as time goes on and the devs focus more on minute world building. Plus a cool aesthetic ain't nothing even by itself.

So no, I don't agree that it is meaningless.
Agree to disagree. At most, it is a salad dressing in my opinion. Shame, bronze age is such an interesting time period.
 

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Kasyrra is literally from Mareth, she even says as much in the game, multiple times. However, she is explicitly one of the only two crossovers that we're going to see along with Taoth, unless you count the portal shenanigans in one specific Bad End which adds a couple more cameos..

I suspect the reason there aren't more crossover elements is a combination of wanting CoC2 to be its own thing, the fact that the writing quality in the original game is nowhere near as good so why bring stuff back that isn't as good as new stuff you can make, a possible clusterfuck situation regarding ownership of characters (there's a reason that TiTS and CoC2 both require people to sign over all rights to anything you submit) and generally just not wanting to deal with that shit any more.
I completely agree, it was just an idea that came to mind after all. We have our big mommyDomme Verusha in TiTs that gives off the Heckle vibes from CoC1. But in all aspect I wouldn’t mind the small Cameos and little event scenes involving the ones that got us into the kinks we have today.
 
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I still find it hilarious that Tyranny's setting gave Savin such a raging nerd boner that he decided to try and adopt all that Bronze Age swag. Though I can't deny that it looks good on cowgirl or 'mander waifus.
And then Tobs ignored it and made kitsune stick to iron(with a good justification but its a good laugh lol).

I completely agree, it was just an idea that came to mind after all. We have our big mommyDomme Verusha in TiTs that gives off the Heckle vibes from CoC1. But in all aspect I wouldn’t mind the small Cameos and little event scenes involving the ones that got us into the kinks we have today.
Like to many things i'll say what one of the many writers/devs will say, not gonna happen, this is CoC2 it has nothing to do with CoC1, and thanks to modding CoC1 is such a logicstical fucking mess to set people straight on the lore about it.
 
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And then Tobs ignored it and made kitsune stick to iron(with a good justification but its a good laugh lol).


Like to many things i'll say what one of the many writers/devs will say, not gonna happen, this is CoC2 it has nothing to do with CoC1, and thanks to modding CoC1 is such a logicstical fucking mess to set people straight on the lore about it.
Could still use some more characters In the Hawkthorne Gym, Maybe even Khor’Minos. maybe a Brint sex scene involving some bench spotting with a horse schlong draped over
 

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is it a copyright issue that won’t allow them to? Or they just don’t feel like kicking the dead horse about? Even so, if you toggle the “Silly” you get picked up by Syri, Anno and Kaede for a small 2 part orgy. That may be a different reason That’s allowed. I’ve been looking around the forums and Wiki, it even claims that Kasyrra was a mortal from the CoC1 world turned demon. There has to be correlation between the 2.
Setting-wise, there's not really any feasible way for things from CoC to get to the CoC2 world. Kasyrra's portal tech explicitly, and purposefully, breaks the rules of CoC, as a big part of CoC was that the demons were unable to find ways to exit Mareth, as it was essentially the final destination for portals, only having in-portals and no out-portals (except for little things like potions to extend life). Taoth, I believe, only gets over because he's a god (and also a trickster god, specifically) and could sneak through one of Kas's portals (probably the first one, the one with Calla). Kas is basically the only one with access to this tech though, and it's impossible for the others to get out of Mareth without it. There's also probably some outside issues that led to these restrictions, but as things are, CoC people can't get to CoC2.

Also, I think I've gotten that Syri, Anno, and Kaede scene without having silly mode on, but like, assuming it requires silly mode, silly mode is explicitly filled with things that "may be stupid, over-the-top, or immersion breaking." So something being in silly mode wouldn't work for adding something else outside of it.
But in all aspect I wouldn’t mind the small Cameos and little event scenes involving the ones that got us into the kinks we have today.
Yeah, references would probably be fine. Apparently an antagonist to Kinu once you free her and Kiyoko is named Raphael, and he specifically uses dialogue ripped straight from the original CoC Raphael, just in a different context to show how weird and creepy he was. He's not the same character, but he's heavily referential, albeit in a manner to tear down the source material.
 
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IIRC CoC2 Taoth has fuck all to do with CoC1 Taoth other then name. But also they just want to make there own game, not off the husk of what CoC1 was and is even after its story is finished, if anyone is going to make any refences and it will only be Kas and her daughters at this point, and its probably just gonna be the difference in tech levels.
 
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I’m not trying to cause Conflict beyond reasoning that we all can compromise that the writers and Devs wanted to keep CoC1 and CoC2 their own separate entities, I completely respect that They wanted to Make something of their own. all I wanted was a new NPC encounter that lacking in the Hawkthorne Gym
 

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If I remember correctly, someone mentioned that Hawkethorne was built near the supposedly existing ruins of Belharan's city.

Maybe turn that ruins into a repeatable dungeon in the future? A place with challenging random enemies with rewards in the form of random loot like unique equipment, rare consumables, power tomes, etc.
 
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Also, I think I've gotten that Syri, Anno, and Kaede scene without having silly mode on, but like, assuming it requires silly mode, silly mode is explicitly filled with things that "may be stupid, over-the-top, or immersion breaking." So something being in silly mode wouldn't work for adding something else outside of it.
It's an April Fool's event, not locked behind silly mode.
 

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Im looking at the planned zones post and, while the centaur stuff itself is optional, it feels like the area itself is technically not optional considering how its probably gonna be the only way to tychis and is the only way to the city of beef.
 

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Im looking at the planned zones post and, while the centaur stuff itself is optional, it feels like the area itself is technically not optional considering how its probably gonna be the only way to tychis and is the only way to the city of beef.
huh? khor minos is in the foothills dude.
 
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Im looking at the planned zones post and, while the centaur stuff itself is optional, it feels like the area itself is technically not optional considering how its probably gonna be the only way to tychis and is the only way to the city of beef.
By all accounts, Tychris is itself an area that the story isn't going to require you to visit, just as the floofhaus is a huge chunk of content that is completely optional if you're just following the main plot. I have to imagine most players will want to see Tychris but it's one of those adjacent areas like the Glacial Rift that you can go to if you want to but you don't need to.

Harvest Valley likewise is an area that you don't have to visit to progress In Her Footsteps. While completing its big quest is a part of unlocking the Champion of Hawkethorne title and several other quests with major content (like Mad Cow, which is essential if you want to turn Brint into Brienne) it's not needed to get into Khor'minos. You can get peaceful access to the Undermountain zone after clearing the Winter City or you can fight your way in whenever you're feeling brave enough. Harvest Valley has naught to do with it.
This is one of the few times when primordial plans have actually changed somewhat.
Oh? Anything you're willing to share at this point?
 
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huh? khor minos is in the foothills dude.
Im a fucking dumbass, I confuse those 2 zones CONSTANTLY.

Though I am still wondering if being a god champion is a way to getting into Kor, I always complete winter city, and if im guessing you will literally be able to become a gods champion in all 3 before getting to Kor.
 

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By all accounts, Tychris is itself an area that the story isn't going to require you to visit,
Correct, entirely optional area unrelated to the MSQ, just like the fox den. And you'll only need to go through Harvest Valley as far as the Caravanserai (like <10 squares) anyway.

Anything you're willing to share at this point?
Not really :)
 

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I want more Mara and the rest of the Centaur Caravan! Let them base the caravan out of the wayfort, I'd totally pay to have Mara on retainer...
 
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