Your gripes with CoC II

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zagzig

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I feel like literally the exact opposite conversation happened when it came up that Etheryn would need to produce a royal heir and only vagina wielding champions would be able to fulfil that need for her. Except that's a major part of Etheryn's character as a Lumian pregfetishist with a mandate to procreate, and not a throwaway line at the very end of spamming one gangbang scene 22 times with Cait.
 

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As said, if the differences between temple and non temple Cait are that sevire, than it seems to me that non temple one likes me more.

And, if you feel like that way, OK. I am personally not fan of taking care of someone elses child in that situation. It feels way to one sided. Before you ask, I am pro adoption (another possible route in game). Just Caits situation is to much for me.
If Cait wants a child so bad, she could always grow a dick and fuck my champion, you know.

I feel like literally the exact opposite conversation happened when it came up that Etheryn would need to produce a royal heir and only vagina wielding champions would be able to fulfil that need for her. Except that's a major part of Etheryn's character as a Lumian pregfetishist with a mandate to procreate, and not a throwaway line at the very end of spamming one gangbang scene 22 times with Cait.
I am not fan of that either. Wonder how that one will be receive tho. Since that one targets bigger chunk of the playerbase I imagine.
 
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As said, if the differences between temple and non temple Cait are that sevire, than it seems to me that non temple one likes me more.
Temple!Cait likes you just as much, but she is even more of a sloot and reasonably certain that you are enjoying all the extra slootery just as much. So when you and her discuss in passing a particular kinky fantasy she has - getting even thiccer through pregnancy - she feels perfectly comfortable about bringing the idea of some rando stud knocking her up in this fantasy scenario, while leaving the room for the Champ to take on that role.

Again, this isn't you and her having a serious discussion about starting a family, or about your relationship in general in the distant and uncertain future when your world-saving quest is complete. And she is unlikely to have such a conversation for quite some time, because at this point in the story Cait seems surprisingly bashful when it comes to expressing her feelings towards the Champ, preferring to play it off as some light flirting. Probably owing at least in part to the fact that despite all of her sexual experiences, she never got to engage in a lengthy, full blown romance before.

If Cait wants a child so bad, she could always grow a dick and fuck my champion, you know.
By the time when having kids would actually be on the table, point your party would probably have the Seven or Kas ready to do you a solid and engage in some magic shenanigans that will allow your Champ, Cait, or both to get pregnant without any dicks being involved.

Okay first you need to understand that Cait loves the champ more than anyone else no matter what, getting knocked up by someone else does not mean she prefers them over you.
TBF, that seems like a pretty hard sell for most people, guys especially. So if Cait does eventually make things official with the Champ and then decides that she wants kids no matter what, even a brief mention in the epilogue of her getting knocked up by someone else would bother many players that are otherwise perfectly okay with her promiscuity or even polyamory.
 
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Avallonkao

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I built the mallach temple because it was the only option to have someone staying at the portal site and actually keep an eye on it to keep more cultists from rolling up and misusing it.

Don't really like the quality of the content for it.
Yup, most ppl seem to build the temple for other reasons than to use it tbh. But like it was said, the temple will be only optional, and not building it won't punish you later on in the story, etc. So far the only reason I personally have to make it is to get Kas redemption quest, but since that will also be able to get later on other temples, I don't see a reason to worry about building it anymore once more options are presented.
 
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you.....do realize how hypocritical this sounds right?
Kind off.
I do think that a game should be there to please the player first and foremost so screwing them over for making a choice as simple as making a character is not something that sits well with me.
Especially with companions.

I do wish that the game made it perfectly clear that she will have children no matter what. So that I do not get invested into it that much.
Temple!Cait likes you just as much,
I already think that is stretching it with what we just learned from Aly. Preferring dicks, wanting to get knocked up by random people because you lack one. She may like bedicked the same, or even more tho.
I already said my case multiply times.
So when you and her discuss in passing a particular kinky fantasy she has - getting even thiccer through pregnancy - she feels perfectly comfortable about bringing the idea of some rando stud knocking her up in this fantasy scenario, while leaving the room for the Champ to take on that role.
Yeah, I feel that at this point I have also beaten the horse to the ground. That conversation was unnecessary and just makes it so that Cait likes dicks more than vagina having champion.

I do wonder if dialogue is going to change if she sucks on some cow tits to reflect on it. If not, then I am sorry, but that would be game admitting that Cait can only think about dicks even when when sucking on milkies. And that the game things only pregnancy lovers like them thick.
By the time when having kids would actually be on the table, point your party would probably have the Seven or Kas ready to do you a solid and engage in some magic shenanigans that will allow your Champ, Cait, or both to get pregnant without any dicks being involved.
While I said that I am not fan of forcing children on the player, at least what youare describing gives people options. So I am somewhat fine with it.


TBF, that seems like a pretty hard sell for most people, guys especially. So if Cait does eventually make things official with the Champ and then decides that she wants kids no matter what, even a brief mention in the epilogue of her getting knocked up by someone else would bother many players that are otherwise perfectly okay with her promiscuity or even polyamory.
If Cait ,before making it official, tells you upfront how her relationship with you is going to go down, including the part where she requires a child, than at least it will allow players to opt out it I hope. Same with Etheryns quest.

I think that is reasonable enough.

And I do not think many girls would be fine with having their partner knock up someone else either. I mean, why do you think I am not crazy over Brint and why I only consider Quin a friend and nothing more?

Edit: Yeah, now that I think about it, the major gripes for me come with how everything is poorly described in game.

The temple building thing, Cait becoming more slutty, fucking over the some champions. Just what everything entails basically. I am still not sure about half of the stuff we talked.
 
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Gosh, maybe if somebody isn't as interested in Cait's turboslut side and more interested in her romantic relationship with Champ, they shouldn't build a brothel and put her in charge of it! It's almost as though there are reasons to build it and reasons to not build it!

Not touching on the other stuff in this discussion, but as of right now, there is a HUUUUUUUGE (story-wise) scene with Kas that is locked behind building the temple, regardless of how anyone feels about the temple itself.
 

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First answer: blue eggs alchemically refined with wild melons will reduce cup size. There's no way to cap cup size.

Follow-up answer: Lactation and pregnancy on their own should not be increasing cup size by that much. For most players, it's almost impossible to get past J without using something like the Hornet Ring, even with boob-focused TFs items. Passive gains purely from pregnancy and lactation shouldn't push Champ's booba to that size, and I would be very surprised if there wasn't some other contributor (like the aforementioned Hornet Ring).
Oh shit, it was the hornet ring all along!
 

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Not touching on the other stuff in this discussion, but as of right now, there is a HUUUUUUUGE (story-wise) scene with Kas that is locked behind building the temple, regardless of how anyone feels about the temple itself.
well, that reason is the only reason some ppl build it actually.
 
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Yeah, at this point I see no reason to build it. It feels like a wasted effort when best reason to build is Kas. A person that is directly endangering it. And who will we be able to meat anyway in different temple.
Does anyone also feel that it is also lacking in something? Like it feels to sterile for what is supposed to be a funhouse? I do not know, I expected more.
 

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While yeah its basically a brothel, it is a temple that kittens get raised in, so of course its gonna be a lot more sterile then the aforementioned name implies.
 

Animalistic

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Are we really going to use "Think of the children!" like it means anything in these games. We already ignore them 95 percent of the time anyway. Also, a fun house is way more fun!
 
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Yeah Kas is a big one but you've got other characters like Rune, Amina, Darius and Imad, and eventually Boomer and maybe other NPC's in the future. There is a lot of content their already and more coming in later. That's the reason I'm keeping anyway.
 
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Animalistic

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Darius, Salwah and Imad are big reasons why place feels so sterile tho.
And good luck with Boomer. He seems long way down.
And Rune is just a lesser Cait of a lesser Cait. And for someone that is apparently close to her, she has no pc-vagina scenes. Which is strange.

Edit: Can you access lovers hold sex scene if you lack a dick?

Edit: Well, technically she has but the options do seem to meme. Or at least they do to my weeb side.
 
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Not touching on the other stuff in this discussion, but as of right now, there is a HUUUUUUUGE (story-wise) scene with Kas that is locked behind building the temple, regardless of how anyone feels about the temple itself.
Yeah, but Savin has said that there will be other ways to get at that content so that's just the price we pay for being allowed to play a game that's a work in progress when not all the options are in place yet.
 

kiby

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Yeah, but Savin has said that there will be other ways to get at that content so that's just the price we pay for being allowed to play a game that's a work in progress when not all the options are in place yet.

That is all future content that is still an unknown length of time away (the temple was added in July). If someone wants to see that Kas scene right now and have those flags set in their savefile to progress her questline, they have to build the temple. My point is that we can't use the building of the temple as any kind of measurement on someone's feelings about Cait, when at this exact point in time, there are zero alternatives to any of the content locked behind building it.
 

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My point is that we can't use the building of the temple as any kind of measurement on someone's feelings about Cait,
Yeah, and building the temple to me logically meant that I am doing something good for Cait and that it would just mean more content.
Since as we are now, it all seems like a false choice in same wake as corrupt hive.
I feel that at least there should be a blur to what each choice entails.

Yeah, immersion breaking but at same time going to forums to ask about stuff is also not that immersive.

One of the problems of game in development I suppose.
I feel like Wsan does that well enough. And stuff like future Berwyn expansion also fit that mold where I do not really need to question what each content entails.
 

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Its insanely resource intensive on my tablet. Its the only app, and I play some pretty high end mobile games on it ... that will drain my battery WHILE ITS PLUGGED IN .. I have no idea what is going on.... even TITS doesn't do it.


Other than that, it can be a bit grindy at times and if you get unlucky you can hit encounters like EVERY TILE ... I'd love an encounter frequency toggle or something. I mean its not a big deal in open map but in some of the dungeons where its the identical fight over and over it gets tiring.
 

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Not that. That business with Cait. You've literally been arguing about that all day.

After a while, you gotta find something else to talk about.
 

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I do think that a game should be there to please the player first and foremost so screwing them over for making a choice as simple as making a character is not something that sits well with me.
Completely tangentially related, but, this reminded me: Why is the affinity system in the game? I've griped before, but I just wondered, has there ever been any reason for there to be affinities aside from mildly inconveniencing the player if they want to make a build that is in any way unconventional if they don't happen to pick whatever race has the affinities for the alternate stats? It's kinda a petty gripe, but I seriously can't think of any reason beyond limiting the player's ability to have fun in an extremely tiny manner, and confusing them as to what they're supposed to do for the first few hours.
 
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