Your gripes with CoC II

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EvilK

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Does anyone else think that the Exertion power from Zoe is too punishing in its use?
The Silver Mask does reduce the recoil by a fair bit but you still end up taking 60% of the damage you deal to the opponent. That's still quite a bit.
 

ElPresidente

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So you're just trolling and being a close minded ass because you have nothing else to do. Good to know. Which means I won't miss out on anything of substance if I disregard you completely.

Just because I don't think my suggestions will amount to anything doesn't mean I'm trolling. My visit is basically a Hail Mary... a shot in the dark (in mroe ways than one).

Close-minded... who can say? No one is following definitions of words these days anymore so it can mean anything. But if you're asking me if I'm "woke" or anything like a modern "progressive". No, not really. But don't worry, I don't intend to stick around.
 

Paradox01

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But don't worry, I don't intend to stick around.
Good. No one's demanding you be "woke" or "progressive", but "respectful" would be a nice start. Now go kick rocks.
 
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Squirrelwagon

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Just because I don't think my suggestions will amount to anything doesn't mean I'm trolling.
The trolling comment is specifically to your nonsense transphobic microaggressions, but go off, I guess.

Oh no, I "misgendered"(not) a fictional character that doesn't exist. Crime of the century.
What you gonna do? Flay me alive with your sharp tounge?
Don't need the scare quotes around misgendering either, given that's exactly what you did. If you gave a fuck, you'd realize there are a lot of trans people on this forum who are not amused, but I'm guessing you'd chalk that up as a win against the libs or something.
 

birbs

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I just wish we had the option to un-futa, and shrink down the privates/proportions of certain characters (here and TITS). All the hyper stuff just ruins many of the character interactions for me...like it's just too much 90% of the time.
As many people have said before, it's really up to the writers because accounting for the variants will oftentimes double or triple the workload of writing for a character. Honestly, the only way to deal with it just avoid content you don't like. Either that, or try shrinking it in your mind's eye. I know a lot of people do that and it's far simpler than re-writing every scene with different variants.
 

WolframL

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Suggestions, not demands.
Your intro post to this community amounted to 'I HATE [things that the game's title screen warns you are present] and the developers should make it all toggleable so I don't have to see it'. But if you prefer, I can restate my earlier comment as 'You aren't the first person to come here with a list of "suggestions" and you won't be the last, but you aren't getting what you want so you might as well get used to that' if that will make you feel better. See what I did there?
Oh no, I "misgendered"(not) a fictional character that doesn't exist. Crime of the century.
You're being a transphobic ass (if that's not redundant) with your attitude.
No, not really. But don't worry, I don't intend to stick around.
The door is that way, don't let it hit your ass on the way out.
Ryn is pretty spoopy though.
Is she though? Spectre of the Wyld's pretty spoopy but while she's got the 'cute' part handled I'm not sure Ryn could do the 'spooky' part of the equation if she tried. Maybe Demon!Ryn if/when that becomes a thing...
 

Magnin

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Truth be told I kind of like the idea of running with Hethia's mistake/insult and having the option to refer to Ryn as 'princeling'.
But anything that makes Ryn unhappy is alright in my book.
 

Emerald

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Truth be told I kind of like the idea of running with Hethia's mistake/insult and having the option to refer to Ryn as 'princeling'.
But anything that makes Ryn unhappy is alright in my book.
Except Hethia is an asshole during that whole thing (Is intended to be) and was misgendering Ryn I'm pretty very sure on purpose.
The game doesn't need more of that in it.

Real talk tho what's with the onslaught of people shitting on Ryn like... what did she do to you outside have an annoying mechanic and be half-sexed? .-.'''
 
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Except Hethia is an asshole during that whole thing (Is intended to be) and was misgendering Ryn I'm pretty very sure on purpose.
The game doesn't need more of that in it.

Real talk tho what's with the onslaught of people shitting on Ryn like... what did she do to you outside have an annoying mechanic and be half-sexed? .-.'''
Personally, I don't really care about Ryn that much, but I can see why some folks would dislike her, considering her annoying as hell mechanic that you had no way to avoid in earlier builds if you wanted to use her. And her main set kind of sucks, it's clearly damage based but an AOE black mage outclasses her in every way except for defense, and even then outclassing a black mage in defense isn't exactly a remarkable feat. Her healer set is pretty good though. And her personality might be a coin flip for some people. Some people (like me) dislike the overly shy archetype, others may like it.

That said however, while I understand disliking her, I certainly don't get the Tidal wave of hatred that half the community harbors for her. It's kind of perplexing.
 

Alypia

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Some people (like me) dislike the overly shy archetype, others may like it.
One solution is to help Ryn get past her shyness. It's easier for her than it is to do the same for, say, Benji-kun. Also, she's never as bad as Benji-kun is.
 

Animalistic

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Ryn is a half sexed princess and not everyone is into that.

Her personality can be perceived as annoying and needy which is not what everyone signed up for. Especially so idlf they fall into first point.

Her being a princess forces her into plot (but only for short tine so I do not see a big deal).

Her confidence mechanics are poorly telegraphed and do not tell you the full picture of what that content entails.

Her blue balls mechanics left poor taste in lots of people mouths. It did get solved, I think, in recent patches so it is not a problem anymore I hope.

Her confidence and content is heavily biased into high confidence/loving directions which sucks for people that want to abuse her.

And she has a dick.

I think that should cover it all.
 

Burnerbro

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Her confidence mechanics are poorly telegraphed and do not tell you the full picture of what that content entails.
I'm not sure I can agree with this assessment, on both points. You get ample feedback on how Ryn is progressing, and there are no interactions the outcomes of which you can't reasonably predict. Because how hard can it be to deduce that abusing for the sake of your own sexual gratification someone with confidence issues and a history of being vicimized by her closest relative is a corrupt path that will nuke any potential for that character's growth? Or to guess what you need to do in order to fascilitate said growth?

Her confidence and content is heavily biased into high confidence/loving directions which sucks for people that want to abuse her.
That is a fair point, however it is just an offshoot of the general issue with the corrupt paths in the game. Ryn has a comparatively more robust amount of corruption content. The Champion's immediate surroundings and companions changing to reflect high corruption and getting more specific corrupt content is something I vaguely remember the devs talking about, so there is always hope. Brint/Brienee getting the addiction mechanics of Mareth's minotaurs and cow girls is very high on my list of content anticipated long term.
 
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Animalistic

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I'm not sure I can agree with this assessment, on both points. You get ample feedback on how Ryn is progressing, and there are no interactions the outcomes of which you can't reasonably predict. Because how hard can it be to deduce that abusing for the sake of your own sexual gratification someone with confidence issues and a history of being vicimized by her closest relative is a corrupt path that will nuke any potential for that character's growth? Or to guess what you need to do in order to fascilitate said growth?
What I mean is that when she is at high confidence game treats us a couple. I am not sure what to you comes to mind when game says "high confidence", but her amd my champion confessing our ever lasting love to each other is not something I would guess. I just wanted to be nice to her, not love her.
 

SmithEK

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Can't you just ignore her? She's only really needed at the moment for winter city and gaining baron/baroness of the Wayfort. Ryn isn't really important unless you're going to romance her.. I'm waiting for her cage to be removed.
 

Animalistic

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Can't you just ignore her? She's only really needed at the moment for winter city and gaining baron/baroness of the Wayfort. Ryn isn't really important unless you're going to romance her.. I'm waiting for her cage to be removed.
You can not make a complete judgement of something if you do not expirience it first hand or at least analyse it.

Also, some of my points are based on people that want to enjoy her, but her content had/has a lot of quirks that makes it annoyin/unsatisfactory to do.
 
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jwins

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I'll agree that it would be nice to have her more lovey content behind higher confidence. As it is right now I can't have her confident in my mono saves with other characters else I get ambush kissed in public. Seeing as how her Harrick talk at 90+ ends with a kiss I think that would be a good place to put her more romantic scenes so that people can still have a confident and proud elvenqueen while not necessarily wanting to be anything more than good friends.
 
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Alypia

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I'll agree that it would be nice to have her more lovey content behind higher confidence. As it is right now I can't have her confident in my mono saves with other characters else I get ambush kissed in public. Seeing as how her Harrick talk at 90+ ends with a kiss I think that would be a good place to put her more romantic scenes so that people can still have a confident and proud elvenqueen while not necessarily wanting to be anything more than good friends.
The way I usually write Ryn High-Confidence content is like this:

Sex scene, 75+ Confidence: Ryn is super lovey-dovey to Champ
Non-sex scene, 90+ Confidence: Ryn is super lovey-dovey to Champ
Non-sex scene, 75-89 Confidence: Ryn is very affectionate toward Champ and clearly harbors a serious crush, but doesn't get romantic
 

jwins

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I was talking about the random kiss event and when she pronounces that you "shall be [her] heart" at the wayfort, which are both at 75 confidence.
 

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Personally, I don't really care about Ryn that much, but I can see why some folks would dislike her, considering her annoying as hell mechanic that you had no way to avoid in earlier builds if you wanted to use her. And her main set kind of sucks, it's clearly damage based but an AOE black mage outclasses her in every way except for defense, and even then outclassing a black mage in defense isn't exactly a remarkable feat. Her healer set is pretty good though. And her personality might be a coin flip for some people. Some people (like me) dislike the overly shy archetype, others may like it.

That said however, while I understand disliking her, I certainly don't get the Tidal wave of hatred that half the community harbors for her. It's kind of perplexing.
I just want you to know that you have the best username.
 
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Lone Wolf115

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Oh no, I "misgendered"(not) a fictional character that doesn't exist. Crime of the century.
What you gonna do? Flay me alive with your sharp tounge?
Suggestion, demand doesn't matter your being a asshole stuck back in time or something and I think you need the same thing BEST GIRL RYN went through but with someone worse.
No.
Ban you I guess lmao
Yeah begone thought.
Ahem sorry was in my head I had to get it out.
 
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