Your least-liked Companion?

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

But I am going to give people benefit of the doubt (by which I mean they did followed what I said) and say that this means that many people like him, but less so then the rest of our entourage.

It is in my nature to tell you that it is almost certainly the case of most users misinterpreting the title. It helps no one to pretend otherwise.

'Least-liked' is typically taken as meaning as meaning the same thing as 'most disliked', and then we end up not reading the actual initial post. Plus the timing of the posting makes it seem like a natural contrasting companion post to the 'Most liked Companion' one.

 

[Sacremas]

Yep, I voted for the bunny based on what the Antled one said more or less, but on the other basis I'd probably agree on Agni being a better choice, just because of how separate from all of the rest of it she feels... she's just there so to say, and while entertaining and interesting doesn't feel like she adds anything to the rest of the game, which the bunny for all of his faults do.

 

[HK-47]

It is in my nature to tell you that it is almost certainly the case of most users misinterpreting the title. It helps no one to pretend otherwise.

'Least-liked' is typically taken as meaning as meaning the same thing as 'most disliked', and then we end up not reading the actual initial post. Plus the timing of the posting makes it seem like a natural contrasting companion post to the 'Most liked Companion' one.

Yeah, given the gist of how things went on that one “wHy Do HeTeRoS hAtE mA bUnNy HuSbAnDo?!” thread, I’d say that’s a pretty safe bet.

 

[MarcoPolo121]

I wish

Haha. Alas he's not Berwyn.

But I am going to give people benefit of the doubt (by which I mean they did followed what I said) and say that this means that many people like him, but less so then the rest of our entourage.

Honestly the main thing they could do to make him more appealing to me that wouldn't involve him catching is to actually delve more into the ex-cultist side of him since that's the main thing he brings to the table character-wise that no-one else can. More dialogue with cultist enemies, maybe scenes of him screwing a cultist enemy or two, actual dialogue between him and Tollus next time we meet him, etc.

 

[Animalistic]

Haha. Alas he's not Berwyn.

To be fair, what guy can compete with Berwyn?

Honestly the main thing they could do to make him more appealing to me that wouldn't involve him catching

Impossible to picture on my end but continue.

is to actually delve more into the ex-cultist side of him since that's the main thing he brings to the table character-wise that no-one else can. More dialogue with cultist enemies, maybe scenes of him screwing a cultist enemy or two, actual dialogue between him and Tollus next time we meet him, etc.

Personally, the game had pleanty of time to establish his relationship with the cult and, at this point, I am just over it. There are to many contradictions, backpedaling and unnecessary justification to make him come out as squeaky clean as one can be when associated with the main antagonistic force that I start to wonder why was he even tied to them to begin with if the game is afraid to present him in somewhat bad light.

Here is what I want (besides pegging/bottoming content).
Cut the rufing magic angle or make it optional. Or at least have a warning for what you are getting into).
Have him call us to hang out.
Progress that is tied to his relationship metter and for him to show interest (sexual/romantic/platonic).

That is bare minimum. Arona, Ryn, Cait (dick champs), Agni, Azzy, Brint, Kiyoko, Brienne and even Atugia to some extent have scenes/dialogue exchanges that at least attempts to make it known that we, the champ, are special to them. Quin gets close (I like his balroom dance and his little "Good luck when we say goodbyes) but, man, does it feel like he would rather engage with Atugia, Cait or Rune rather then hang out with us.

 

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

Honestly the main thing they could do to make him more appealing to me that wouldn't involve him catching is to actually delve more into the ex-cultist side of him since that's the main thing he brings to the table character-wise that no-one else can. More dialogue with cultist enemies, maybe scenes of him screwing a cultist enemy or two, actual dialogue between him and Tollus next time we meet him, etc.

I don't really think a bit of background fluffing can help with the massive hate-on Quin has inspired, him not having a character niche generally isn't why people are so prickly towards him.

But the amount of careful handling it would take to actually mend a decent portion of negative views is not something I see as viable, given all factors involved with his writing.

 

[IraMorti]

Hands down, Quin. With Brint he's likeable as a bro and I have the option of Brienne (which yes I always take). Quin I really don't have any reason to have him around. I'm a gynesexual so he's too masculine for my interests and I doubt there will ever be a major tf option for him. Plus his personality just kind of grates on me. So I always abandon him.

Edit: If we talking about the companions we like, but the least of them - Well, Agni. I think she just needs to be fleshed out more. Hopefully we'll get an expansion or two on her.

 

[A1teros]

Ah I also misunderstood the intent of the poll, in that case I'll go with Tui, I think she just now got content that involves her outside of her initial scenes with LumiaQuest, she just doesn't have enough content for me to build an attachment to her even if content wise she hits a lot of the right spots. I realized as I was writing this Vivianne is in the same boat but she's a new companion so I imagine she'll get fleshed out.

 

[HK-47]

Ah I also misunderstood the intent of the poll, in that case I'll go with Tui, I think she just now got content that involves her outside of her initial scenes with LumiaQuest, she just doesn't have enough content for me to build an attachment to her even if content wise she hits a lot of the right spots. I realized as I was writing this Vivianne is in the same boat but she's a new companion so I imagine she'll get fleshed out.

Like I said, it was a pretty safe bet

Edit: @IraMorti honestly I only take him because there’s no non-corrupt option to give him the boot. At least with Kiyoko (who I’m just not interested in) you can simply avoid her by never snagging the necklace, same with Agni (who again I’m not interested in) if you don’t do anything with her feather. If I had my druthers, it’d be straight to the Wayfort Dungeons for him, particularly on my Paladin champ.

 

[Ireyon]

if Brint is a dom top exclusively

He isn't though? Once you've slept with him he's very open to experimentation.

As for the poll: Arona. It was between her and Quin and the bunny boy has the upside of recognizing that something's messed up and wanting no part of it.

 

[HK-47]

I also don't like Brint's art/him having a snout but that's less important

I‘m in the same boat. I’d honestly prefer that both the Lupines and Minotaurs were monster people as opposed to full on furries.

 

[Mouseling]

He isn't though? Once you've slept with him he's very open to experimentation.

As for the poll: Arona. It was between her and Quin and the bunny boy has the upside of recognizing that something's messed up and wanting no part of it.

if you have no penis or the strap-on thing, no he really is not, I found out there is this option recently (since I don't play enpenised characters), so partially wrong, still not gonna sub for characters I play so, being wrong on that still doesn't bring any of the things that I'd like to the table for me

 

[Animalistic]

He isn't though? Once you've slept with him he's very open to experimentation.

As for the poll: Arona. It was between her and Quin and the bunny boy has the upside of recognizing that something's messed up and wanting no part of it.

Yeah... all for one scene. Rest of his conversations, interactions and sexual intercourse sre all written from a perspective you are his subby bitch. So calling him very open for experematiom is a bigger stretch then his dick can inflict.
And as stated above, only for dick champs.

 

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

subby bitch.

Now now, I understand why you're unhappy about it, but it's more of a sudden shift into swooning, head-over-heels subby lover than bitch.

I quite frankly hate that forced characterization in itself at times, but Brint is largely a good lad who treats you fairly well in most of his content. Or as well as someone who has a bazooka for a dick can.

Would be nice to have more scenes with the Champ going on the offensive though, considering there's even a dialogue option about it and all.

 

[Boshe]

To be fair, what guy can compete with Berwyn?

Isn't Boomer basically anti-Berwyn? Cat/dog, shy/confident, open about liking anal/failing at not being open about liking anal.

 

[HK-47]

Now now, I understand why you're unhappy about it, but it's more of a sudden shift into swooning, head-over-heels subby lover than bitch.

I quite frankly hate that forced characterization in itself at times, but Brint is largely a good lad who treats you fairly well in most of his content. Or as well as someone who has a bazooka for a dick can.

Would be nice to have more scenes with the Champ going on the offensive though, considering there's even a dialogue option about it and all.

Hopefully we’ll get more instances where you can turn the tables on him in future content, since as things stand both his bottoming scene and rough ride scene make it pretty explicit that he is very into it.

 

[morii]

I don't mind the way lupines look, I find them rather fetching actually. I'm not as crazy about minotaurs, but the men having a bull's head is at least true to most legends.

I kind of imagine minotaurs to look like this:

Spoiler: Images

Something like that, anyway. Maybe a bit beefier in certain places, but I kind of like men that look monstrous but realistically powerful.

 

[Animalistic]

Now now, I understand why you're unhappy about it, but it's more of a sudden shift into swooning, head-over-heels subby lover than bitch.

I quite frankly hate that forced characterization in itself at times, but Brint is largely a good lad who treats you fairly well in most of his content. Or as well as someone who has a bazooka for a dick can.

Would be nice to have more scenes with the Champ going on the offensive though, considering there's even a dialogue option about it and all.

Yeah, over exaggeration. Just subby would be more appt.

I just find his supposed romance forced, for many reasons. And his sweet moments kind come of as patronizing, and his later stuff does lean into a macho thing that I am not fan off.

Nevertheless, his solo sex scenes (although to passive on champions end) do tickle my fancy. He is good in combat. And I find his snout adorable.

Isn't Boomer basically anti-Berwyn? Cat/dog, shy/confident, open about liking anal/failing at not being open about liking anal.

Man, I forgot that Boomer exist.

But if we look at it at surface level, sure... I just don't think that that comparison was intentional. And I am not really excited for his future content considering everything we know will come.

 

[Alypia]

I don't mind the way lupines look, I find them rather fetching actually.

please tell me that this was an accident

 

[morii]

please tell me that this was an accident

Christ. Well, I am embarrassed now...yes, that was completely by accident...or I'm hardwired to make bad puns :shamefaced:

 

[HK-47]

Christ. Well, I am embarrassed now...yes, that was completely by accident...or I'm hardwired to make bad puns :shamefaced:

That honestly makes it even better

 

[Enigmatic D]

As much as I don't want to put down these 2 characters, I have to choose Atugia and Azzy.

For Atugia, the interest is there, truly, but there could be so much more. I adore the little things like choosing to kiss her on the lips or her stomach, being silly but still endearing. Working out with her in the gym has some feel-good energy to go along with it. Even the sex scenes are varied depending on if you want either threesome action Brienne and Ryn (afaik.) or solo with fishnets and minor dom play. I think I honestly want more inclusion when it comes to main story stuff for her or some simple scenes when you explore within Hawkethorne.

Azzy would probably be the least liked due to how you meet her along with what comes after dealing with the Alraune. I kinda spent a lot of time with Azzy before the conclusion of the Hive was a thing. I fell off Azzy for a while because of where the content of her veered towards. Where are our dates and etc.? I'll leave it there or else I'll start ranting with some negativity.

 

[Nuin]

I decided to vote for (against?) Kiyoko.

Spoiler: Reasoning Wall of Text

While I really DO like her and Kinu's content in general, my grievances with it are how Tobs implemented it in the first place. Also how gated it is behind choices not every player might be alright with - a couple users already named similar opinions in this thread. Even more vexing is the fact that it's not a mere NPC but a Companion, which for me is something a bit more important since there aren't that much of it in the whole game...you know?
It's kind of a "limited resource" - you wanna catch 'em all. But in Kiyoko's case - and only her case (since Atugia got a 2nd recruitment option) - you're gated behind choices you have to make even if it's not your cup of tea. If you don't want to leave her behind as a companion, that is.

Q: 100% female, don't want to grow a dick, have a ghostlight or don't want to be adressed as male?
A: Too bad, content is not for you!
Q: You want your PC to stay a virgin as long as possible 'cause character setting?
A: Get down that hole or live with one less Companion. "Choice" is yours...
Q: But my character is already deadset on a SO and even fights demons to stay monogamous!
A: Aww, how romantic...see, this is a porn game. It's All-You-Can-Fuck or you have to live with the repercussions Sweetie.
Q: Keros told me to dick her so to free her! Why am I now called "Dear" and get constant snappy remarks to stuff her far too large bag again full with kits? I just wanted to help!
A: Oh dear! In for a penny in for a pound...if you want to help her, you only have to devote yourself fully to her. Genuine floof comes at a price, we don't do imitates. So if you don't want the full deal, let her rot

So, above Q&A sums it up pretty well. Even if you directly communicate to Keros you want to help but don't want the whole aftermath, he just asks for you to get it over with (be flagged poly at that) or to let her rot in that orb regardless. And while I understand Tobs intent on that, I can't but think of this as bad design gamewise. No other companion's content is nearly as gated behind such decisions as Kiyoko's.
You can have Cait with you and still choose to not fuck the catslut. To witness their story content (if not all but enough) you're never obliged to fuck any of your other companions but Kiyoko. And even if you decide to do it this one time to free her, after the deed is done the game regards you as groom and bride to live happily with her thereafter regardless. If that could be adressed somehow, she'd be truely a great companion for me and I bet many more users would actually recruit her.

Tldr: regarding companions there's hardly anything more vexing for me then Slutsune vindictively content-gatekeeping players deciding to cock-block her.

 

[Angelica1996]

mhmh.
well I dont actually "dislike" any characters, it just depends on whatever character i play as.
but the ones i use the least are Kiyoko, Agni and Quin.

kiyoko cus i rarely ever play as a male champ.
Agni cus i often never actually go to that area of the game, its a detour from winter city afterall. And i usually cant be bothered to bring 3? fire capes to her. Shame really cus i dont actually dislike her and have only ever used her as a companion once.

Quin, well that's mainly because of impressions. I dont like his attitude when asked about companions, and i cant help but feel like my champ is just a plan b for getting laid.

also the sex magic... Consent man...

i will if also list my likes/dislikes for every other companion. So sorry in advance for the wall of text.

Cait: Well as someone who plays 90% of the game as a fem champ i cant help but feel like she never really likes me as she would i sported a dick. Im thinking about the fact you cant talk with her about children and therefor dont learn about her brand of the harlot. Which means she will ask you to turn away when first talking to salwah. Which always makes me a little sad.
Other than that i dont mind her all to much. She is almost always in my party. Mainly cus she seems to have dialogue and scenes with every part of the game where some of the others dont.

Ryn: I adore her. Like cait she is spending most of the time in my party. One thing though, i wish she would have some scenes where she actively wanted to go down on my champ. I feel like a horrible being asking her for oral given her past.

Brint: Well i like Brint i guess, but i much more prefer Brienne. I guess im just tired of always being gaped when having a roll in the hay with Brint. Even with Elasticity perks.

Brienne: Well other than i feel horrible changing brint like that i adore Brienne. Just wish she would have some more lezzie stuff and maybe a bit more assertiveness. I mean she is a towering amazonian, strong enough to break most of my champions like a twig. I would love if she weren't all subby. I know she is the "opposite" of brint, but well i think i just like being Equal?

Arona: Im really conflicted here, i love Arona alot. She remind me of my favorite Overwatch Hero (Junker Queen) not that it matters.
but i just wish she had more "equal" or atleast an option to have her top you even though you are the "alpha" i dont like being submissive to her cus it removes the option to pick sex options.
i guess i would just like a few scenes where you actually sucked her dick. Or she pinned you down. I dunno. I love the sex scene she has for when she has your champ impregnated. But i otherwise hate being pregnant. I mean i didn't actually beat her in combat, my party did. If most of my champions went up against her in a 1v1 no magics allowed i would likely lose. And i know the option to challenge her exists, but that just makes you lose the option to pick sex.

Azzy: I have no complains with Azzy, i like her all around, both as fem and male champions.

Viv: So i haven't actually had a chance to experience Viv much. She is a rather "new" companion and i sadly end up finishing alot of the main quest before i actually get a chance to recruit her.
maybe im just super unlucky with the RNG but finding her in the forest can take ages, and when you also have to find suc milk for her it becomes a waiting game.
Also i think she is locked out of the game until she visits your dream or you take/wear the witch outfit.


i think that was all. Sorry again for the wall of text.

 

[Stzk619]

I would have to say Quintillus takes the dubious title for my least favorite. With every other companion, I’ve managed to find at least some way to enjoy their content or, at the very least, their utility for gameplay purposes. I simply can’t say the same for the rabbit, however. Perhaps it’s just personal misgivings with regards to his somewhat skeevy mannerisms, or my mere inability to find a playstyle which complements his combat abilities, but he is without a doubt the one at the bottom for me.

 

[morii]

I decided to vote for (against?) Kiyoko.

(Explanation)

Tldr: regarding companions there's hardly anything more vexing for me then Slutsune vindictively content-gatekeeping players deciding to cock-block her.

I tried explaining the whys, I really did. But you explained it waaay better than I. You're 100% right, and it's succinctly put. She's definitely a character I would've liked, but I don't care for her content design much for all the reasons you mentioned.

 

[redlightnin55]

Tldr: regarding companions there's hardly anything more vexing for me then Slutsune vindictively content-gatekeeping players deciding to cock-block her.

If I could like a post more than once, I would for this one.

I don't mind this methodology of content locking that much for the random npcs of the world (horsedick lady who only willingly bones elves, for example) but the fact that it's a companion is such bad game design, imo. There really should be an alternative.

It's probably something that should have been handled a long time ago, given how divisive Kiyoko is as a character and always has been. Considering how polls like this one, the other poll, and the general consensus just looking around at posts here and elsewhere goes, half the players like her, half the players don't. It strikes me as poor development attitude to have ignored the half that don't like her until it reaches a point like it has now, where even if they decide they want to do something about it there may be too much content to potentially modify for the new variable of not wanting to become her pet husband just to get her as a companion.

Each new patch that adds more fox content just pushes that possibility further and further away.

Also, you know, considering how much the design philosophy of this game focuses on not wanting to create bubble waifus, why is it that Kiyoko is exactly that? You can't even talk to her at the inn, but Viv can be spoken to in the inn and she's far newer a companion than Kiyoko. What gives?

While I may have voted for Cait as my least-liked companion because I tend to enjoy Kiyoko when I'm in the right mood, I don't like the way she's handled from a game design standpoint. It's always sat poorly with me.

 

[Nuin]

It strikes me as poor development attitude to have ignored the half that don't like her until it reaches a point like it has now, where even if they decide they want to do something about it there may be too much content to potentially modify for the new variable of not wanting to become her pet husband just to get her as a companion.

Each new patch that adds more fox content just pushes that possibility further and further away.

While I really would like Tobs to adress the issue, I'm pretty sure he won't if only for the fact why Kiyoko was created in the first place. She and Kinu are there to be his personal, eternal saltmine of tears for every CoC 1 player wishing for things on the content blacklist.
Our "pleas for equality" could in theory be interpreted as just another flavor on the flooflords palate ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[CasualAntlerEnjoyer]

She and Kinu are there to be his personal, eternal saltmine of tears for every CoC 1 player wishing for things on the content blacklist.
Our "pleas for equality" could in theory be interpreted as just another flavor on the flooflords palate ¯\(ツ)/¯

Content blacklist? Could you shed some context here, I'm fairly new to the scene behind the games, and so I've little idea what was going on back in the CoC1 days.

 

[Sacremas]

Content blacklist? Could you shed some context here, I'm fairly new to the scene behind the games, and so I've little idea what was going on back in the CoC1 days.

Things specifically not allowed in this game that was in COC1 in some form, and more so in the various mods/expansions for it.

In this case I'm pretty sure it's specifically incest they are referring to... but that's another debate entirely (spoiler: there's a lot of incest in this game, there's just nothing specifically involving the Champion, though the Uma genie character seems to thread on that also).