Your Gripes With CoC2

NinjaTacos

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I think half-sexed specifically is a boreal elf thing, and the PC can only be a wyld elf. Also, am I the only one who thinks "half-sexed" sounds like a slur against intersex people? I mean, I know it's not in-universe, but I'm pretty sure a term like that wouldn't fly IRL.
Is does smack of the racial slur 'half-caste'...
 
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I really don't like how Elosa is gated behind two stat checks. You can't even receive her blessing if you don't have at least willpower or cunning. I would just like a small tweak or alternative to be available such as using juice.
 

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I mean, a supposedly trans positive game deciding that it's more important to match someone's pronouns up with what you find between their legs over how they present or, god forbid, f***ing asking them first I would say warrants at least a little bit more thinking than usual. Shit genuinely kinda makes me wish I could refund still, unfortunately I left the game's window open overnight so there's no chance of that.
hey man(unisex), no need to get aggressive about it, you do sound heated, and its understandable, but youre heated at wrong people here
 

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also, i dont think that sugo is such a bad offender(the worst offender sure, as Lostname said) because the character was created as a feminine man, not really a trans woman, and we both know theres a difference and trap is a fetish, it is an existing one, not a trans woman but a feminine man "fooling" "straight" men, who want to feel straight since technically the man looked feminine but are actually gay, as far as im aware it began in japan, and the american or weatern version of it wasnt really integral for the fetish creation
 

Lostname475

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It's not sugo as a character, it's the way he's written, with so many transphobic dogwhistles and slurs imo
 

orropo

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It's not sugo as a character, it's the way he's written, with so many transphobic dogwhistles and slurs imo
ill agree on that because i dont really know, and id rather not be ignorant, its just feels weirdly out of place to get snippy about it with players who dont really influence the game outside of suggestions or commissions and not go to discord or directly message savin
 

Lostname475

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Yeah, it's not any players fault, but this is the dedicated thread for complaining so it's not really out of place
 
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I really don't like how Elosa is gated behind two stat checks. You can't even receive her blessing if you don't have at least willpower or cunning. I would just like a small tweak or alternative to be available such as using juice.
So I am going to be le dumb here, but how do Stat checks even work? Is it RNG check plus your rank in that stat, or something else?
 
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Lostname475

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It checks if your stat is within a certain percentage of the highest it can be for your level i think
 

Tide Hunter

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Oh does it? Neat, I wonder if we could get that applied to coc2 somehow
Unfortunately, I think it'd be rather difficult. TiTS got it because the entire game had to be rebuilt from the ground up to use a different game engine when Flash reached the end of life, so they were able to build it into the game. CoC2's first public appearance was in 2018, and this was when there was playable content so the making of the baseline stuff which the game is built on was likely being done for a while before that, considering how long TiTS' rebuild was.

So basically, while it'd be great to get it in CoC2, considering how it was implemented with TiTS, it might be considered something that will take too much work to adjust it, or it might be risky or something of the sort. I don't know the specifics, but I think it's unlikely to come.

Though the fact that this started appearing in 2018 does make it rather odd that stuff like "trap" and "shemale" were showing up. It might've been a carry-over from the days of CoC and the earlier TiTS period, especially since I remember hearing that a lot of the systems for appearances and descriptions were initially taken from TiTS' flash version. But like, the word "femboy" is present in CoC2 and it has a lot less negative connotations than trap (although it's still rather fetishistic), and every time trap gets used, they just mean femboy. And shemale... honestly I don't know what word can be used to replace them that both encompasses "this is a girl who happens to have a cock and no pussy" and which hasn't been used as a slur. I guess... Gynomorph?
 
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Lostname475

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it might be considered something that will take too much work to adjust it,
I mean, it took me about 30 seconds after I found the file the sex variable was stored in so it can't be that hard for someone who actually knows what they're doing. Like, it'd take longer to edit it out for npcs put for the champion it was super easy
 

Tide Hunter

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I mean, it took me about 30 seconds after I found the file the sex variable was stored in so it can't be that hard for someone who actually knows what they're doing. Like, it'd take longer to edit it out for npcs put for the champion it was super easy
For just directly editing the instances, yeah, it'd probably be pretty easy. But what I was referring to was the word replacement system, where TiTS lets you set some words and phrases and has them be automatically replaced with a different word/phrase. Basically, it'd probably be easy to just statically change things to one set replacement, but TiTS has a flexible system and so it'd be much harder to implement, particularly given that apparently the way it worked required it to be part of the game as they were building it from the start.