Why is it that when you make a male gendered champion, he can't have a chest description that says "girly, soft, undefined chest" or a "waif's chest" when he's a trap, instead reserving that for females?
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Your Gripes With CoC2
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I personally would love if the game would stop calling people, who have never given the slightest of indications that they'd like to be called a slur, slurs.
Be it calling PC's shemales, having my PC call that one centaur a trap and gendering them male when I've no fucking CLUE how they want to be referred to and literally going "I see penis, it's a guy", there's hermaphrodite as well which seems to be recognized as a slur, sissy I believe is in the game as well, but that one was never that harsh a slur and has more or less died down from it's original use so it's mostly fine I guess?
Point being, it sure is great how a game with a main selling point of acceptance of bodtypes can expose you to three different slurs in ten minutes of play, depending on your choices, none of which were previously okayed by the individuals they refer to.
Be it calling PC's shemales, having my PC call that one centaur a trap and gendering them male when I've no fucking CLUE how they want to be referred to and literally going "I see penis, it's a guy", there's hermaphrodite as well which seems to be recognized as a slur, sissy I believe is in the game as well, but that one was never that harsh a slur and has more or less died down from it's original use so it's mostly fine I guess?
Point being, it sure is great how a game with a main selling point of acceptance of bodtypes can expose you to three different slurs in ten minutes of play, depending on your choices, none of which were previously okayed by the individuals they refer to.
but aside from that, about the point of "i dont know how to reffer to them, and it just goes to he/her" i think its like the character automatically assuming correctly since there are ladies with male bits that are still reffered to as ladies and while i domt think there are yet lads with female bits theyd still be reffered to as lads
also about the slur, i dont really know where its used but i dont think there are actual intersex characters in the game, there isnt a character with both male and female bits where it matters to be considered intersex so i dont think the h-word or intersex should really be used(outside of character creation where the wyld elf explicitly gives you a choice to have both sets if genitalia)
I'll grant that, but it surely wouldn;t be too hard for the pc to ask in situations where there's uncertainty? especially since in the part they're refrerring to (sugo) it literally goes dick=male, which I thought was a really weird assumption from a female bedicked elf
? Arona is a pretty major character
the slurs ends up in the appearence description for the player if they are, which means you'll be seeing a lot if them, which is actually really odd considering they were specifically removed from the character creation menu
yea i agree with that, i havent read his meet scene for a while, and i dont really remember if there is big sexual dimorphism in centaurs
is she reffered to as such? shes always just called a she her and a woman, my question was really another where the word was used(also lowkey forgot about her whole existence since i never interact with her outside of quest completion)
Mostly in regards to the pc in my experience. Sorry I misunderstood your question
np dude! we are just needlessly overthinking the porn game(outside of the slur)
I actually think them showing up in the appearance tab and character description might just be an oversight, as they were removed from other places a while ago
i actually rather like cuntboy, speaking as a trans man, but i can fully understand why trans women would abhor being called the inverse or the slur. the game is a bit not-great about that slur in particular, and in the beginning i think it was a design decision, but one that may or may not have changed since.
my gripe is that transmasculine elves made in character creation are not also referred to as halfsexed despite the wyld elf codex mentioning multiple intersex combinations falling under the umbrella. i don't mind cuntboy at all, but i feel like being considered a halfsexed elf for being born that way is not unreasonable
other gripe: why can't puss-having orcs have less than a c cup at character creation? i always end up being an elf or catboy instead; the coolest pc.ora blurbs are for orc
my gripe is that transmasculine elves made in character creation are not also referred to as halfsexed despite the wyld elf codex mentioning multiple intersex combinations falling under the umbrella. i don't mind cuntboy at all, but i feel like being considered a halfsexed elf for being born that way is not unreasonable
other gripe: why can't puss-having orcs have less than a c cup at character creation? i always end up being an elf or catboy instead; the coolest pc.ora blurbs are for orc
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I mean, a supposedly trans positive game deciding that it's more important to match someone's pronouns up with what you find between their legs over how they present or, god forbid, f***ing asking them first I would say warrants at least a little bit more thinking than usual. Shit genuinely kinda makes me wish I could refund still, unfortunately I left the game's window open overnight so there's no chance of that.
you can pick pronoun in character creation? it defines body types certain ways because it's hard not to in a tf game but pronouns are fully pickable and even togglable
A: Not what I was talking about, I was referring to the centaur you find in the forest who it genders female from the front, which is feminine looking, then your character sees them from a back, notices a penis, and starts gendering them male. Man, I wonder if there's a pop culture trope about someone who looks female til you see they have a dick... I wonder if there have been stories about how guys have been "trapped" by trans women (from guys who might never have even knowingly met a trans woman, oftentimes).
Anyways then you start calling this centaur a trap, which I've been told is totally not a slur and has nothing to do with trans people and you're a gross sjw woke mean bad if you say otherwise, so I'm sure that's the whole story and that's it.
B: Yes you absolutely can pick your character's pronouns in the menu, however it'll still call you shemale and a hermaphrodite just for funsies, no disabling that.
For what it's worth, sugo is, as far as I recall, the worst offender regarding this and newer content is generally better about not randomly throwing slurs at you, but that might just be me not noticing them.
my sibling in sin i am literally also trans, i didn't say any of this was good. i just misunderstood what you said. TiTS has a word replacement system that might be what you are looking for, so maybe check that out
Did... Did I blame you? I was just clarifying the problem so that no more confusion could be had. And wow, that... honestly makes it feel worse, since I think they're built of mostly the same code, if they've just... Not included that system in CoC
It'd also be theoretically possible (just tested) to manually mod it out of at least most of the npc interactions, and probably the pc as well if I knew where to find the descriptions for them in the code, but It would take ages and need to be redone pretty much every update. I might do so after the game is actually finished
TheShepard256
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I think half-sexed specifically is a boreal elf thing, and the PC can only be a wyld elf. Also, am I the only one who thinks "half-sexed" sounds like a slur against intersex people? I mean, I know it's not in-universe, but I'm pretty sure a term like that wouldn't fly IRL.