Why is Garth's family fur color so inconsistent?

Vicson_Steele

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The description of Garth's family is all over the place! The fur colors are not consistent at all! For example...

Here Garth is described as gray furred.

"The Frost Hound Tavern, home away from home here in the northlands. The place is small but cozy, with several tables sandwiched between a roaring hearthfire and a bar so polished that it shines. Sawdust coats the wooden floor, soaking up spilled drinks. Behind the bar are racks and racks of ales and lagers — hearty drinks for a hearty people. Garth, the grizzled, gray-furred lupine owner, stands behind the bar in his usual place, wiping off mugs or carting out drinks to his handful of patrons"


While Gwen has dark black and white fur that the game says she inherited from Garth.

Being Garth’s daughter, she’s inherited his coloration, and as such a thick dark black overcoat of rougher, coarser hairs covers a dirty white undercoat of softer, fluffier fur.


Garret's description makes it even more contradictory.

Garret is as he's always been. You can see why he says he takes after his mother far more than he does Garth — instead of his father and sister's sleek brown-and-white fur patterning, Garret is more a greyish-black and far huskier.


Then Gwyer comes along and she's also Grey like Garth despite supposedly being different in color than him


Her fur is grey, but has been blotched to greyish-white in several places, especially about her muzzle; not that you can see most of it given how well she's wrapped up in her clothes.


Also, how tall are they? I know Gwyr is supposed to be the tallest but the game never gives measurements outside of Garret to my knowledge.
 

Punccline

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Can't answer the fur color question, but I can kind of answer on height. We have two semi-solid frames of reference: Gweyr and Garret.

Garret is described as "Monstrously tall for a lupine, almost seven feet."

Gweyr I believe you can check the exact height of during the flashback where you play as her (open the Appearance tab) but I don't have a save near that point so I can't check now. That said, while playing a max height character (which is 8 feet, or 96 inches), I recall Gweyr being described as SLIGHTLY shorter than me. Might be misremembering.

The text when she's described is "If Garth is towering, Gweyr is massive. She's got at least a full head of height over her husband..."

SO, based on these things, we can extrapolate some rough guesses.

Gweyr: ~7'6
Garth: ~7"
Garret: ~6'10
Gwyn: ~6'4?

Gwyn's the only one whose height is never really touched upon. She's probably not small, but I wouldn't count on her being a giant either.
 

Punccline

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Side note, just remembered you can open NPCs in the save editor and check their height that way, as they have stats as though they were a PC. These numbers MAY or may not be accurate, but:

Gweyr: 94 inches (7'10)
Garret: 94 inches (7'10) ((I don't think this one is correct considering his text describes him as under 7 feet))
Gwyn: 66 inches (5'6) ((no way Gwyn has two parents in the 7 foot range and ended up 5'6 lmao, that can't be right).

Garth, strangely, does not appear in the editor. Likely because he doesn't appear in combat or sex scenes of any kind, so his stats don't matter.