Why are they not more popular?

balitz Method

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The census is certainly skewed so that 70% of galaxy are futanari, 20% are women, 9.9% are feminine men and .000001% are masculine men but that is both the taste of the writers and much of the audience as well as simple utility, so that there's something to go somewhere no matter what sort of abomination Steele Jr. becomes.

If there's too much of anything it's paint by numbers waifu writing. A lot of them blend together because they're just hitting the same beats that most of the other content does so quite a number of characters are forgettable not because they have the same body type but because they act the same and their content unfolds the same way.
 

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The census is certainly skewed so that 70% of galaxy are futanari, 20% are women, 9.9% are feminine men and .000001% are masculine men but that is both the taste of the writers and much of the audience as well as simple utility, so that there's something to go somewhere no matter what sort of abomination Steele Jr. becomes.

If there's too much of anything it's paint by numbers waifu writing. A lot of them blend together because they're just hitting the same beats that most of the other content does so quite a number of characters are forgettable not because they have the same body type but because they act the same and their content unfolds the same way.

Got some examples?
 

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The census is certainly skewed so that 70% of galaxy are futanari, 20% are women, 9.9% are feminine men and .000001% are masculine men but that is both the taste of the writers and much of the audience as well as simple utility, so that there's something to go somewhere no matter what sort of abomination Steele Jr. becomes.

If there's too much of anything it's paint by numbers waifu writing. A lot of them blend together because they're just hitting the same beats that most of the other content does so quite a number of characters are forgettable not because they have the same body type but because they act the same and their content unfolds the same way.
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Are we really going to crunch numbers on XXXmas eve? Why not.

Not including Synthetics.

Tavros: Fisianna=Total Female
Liamme= Feminine Male
Semith= Male
Fyn= Male
Aina= Total Female(taur)
Paige= Total Female (ghost penis does NOT COUNT)
Illaria= Futa
Sera= Futa
Riya= Uh... dickgirl?
Lerris= Trap Male to Female Transexual
Aliss= Trap Male
Jade= Total Female
Sellesy= Total Female
Shelly= Total Female
Alex= Male Herm
Saendra= Total Female... can be pushed to Futa
Ceria= Total Female
Mistress at Brothel= Total Female
Rahn at Brothel... Vaande= Futa... I guess
Terensha= Futa
Vahn= Manly dude

Total Female: 9, futa: 3, males: 3,... you know, this is more annoying then I thought it would be. Going go eat sum ice cream.
 

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Sadly, this list is rather outdated. Like... 18 months? I believe the only males to be added in that time period that would count for this are shiny aggron Chaurmine (who i'm outraged that you forgot in your previous post) and daddy dog Ciaran
Heh... Top by content amount (only counting above 100 KB):


No specific place:
Kiro (hyper horsecock furry) - 392 KB
Anno (female, follower content) - 239 KB
Saendra (female, with herm route) - 166 KB
Celise (feminine, nit sure if has gender) - 156 KB
Summary: females and dickgirls. Hyper horsecock furry herm on top of the list.


Mhen'ga:
Kelly (VERY hyper double horsecock herm furry) - 461 KB
Penny (furry, starts as a girl, but development is focused on becoming herm, optionally horsecocked, bimbofication fetish focus) - 414 KB
Syri (dickgirl) - 329 KB
Flahne (herm) - 166 KB
Zil (male) - 136 KB
Burt (male, horsecock) - 128 KB
Naleen (male) - 110 KB
Geoff (normal male human) - 88 KB, which is actually below threshold.
Summary: hyper horsecock herm furries on top of the list.


Tarkus:
Bess (no comments) - 760 KB
Lane (configurable, hypno mindbreak fetish focus) - 383 KB
Anno (female, local content only) - 333 KB
Shekka (female) - 219 KB
Goo Armor (feminine genderless) - 149 KB
Raskvel (males) - 139 KB
Goblin Pool (some male content included) - 120 KB
Raskvel (female) - 117 KB
Sexbots (can be male or female, one male specific scene on loss) - 101 KB
Summary: only one combat encounter with male content.


Myrellion:
Emmy (hyper herm furry) - 330 KB
Embry (MtF trans) - 238 KB
Lieve (Red Myr female, bimbofication/drugs fetish focus) - 223 KB
Myr deserters (females) -189 Kb (summary)
Shade (dommy female, incest) - 181 KB
Xanthe (dom female, bondage fetish) - 164 KB
Vi (robotic female) - 159 KB
Nyrea (dickgirls, oviposition fetish) - 142 KB
Fazian (AFAIK male, not checked out yet) - 142 KB
Bath house (females, exhibitionism, orgy) - 142 KB
Irellia (hyper fetish) - 142 KB
Ganraels (feminine, but apparently genderless goo) - 134 KB
Renvra (Myr/Nyrea halfbreed, dickgirl, oviposition fetish) - 129 KB
Kaede (dickgirl) - 123 KB
Gene (male, giant, hyper, dom, hypno fetish) - 122 KB
Fungal Myr (herm, parasite fetish) - 115 KB
Dally (male Myr) - 110 KB
Nehzara (female myr, drugs) - 104 KB
Summary: two males with a notable content amount, and one of them is very specific. Lots of dickgirls. Hyper herm furry on top of the list.


Uveto:
Nayna (horsecock herm furry) - 127 KB
Summary: Well, nothing to say here.


New Texas:
Gianna (robotic female, horsecock attachable) - 394 KB
Ellie (female cow/leithan girl, not sure if it counts, but close to hyper) - 127 KB
Millie (cowgirl) - 102 KB
Other content is below 100 KB.
Summary: sort of even with genders here, I'd say. Hyper and bimbofication fetishes all the way.


Tavros:
Sera (dom demon-morph, herm) - 353 KB
Reaha (cowgirl, AFAIK with planned dom dickgirl x-pack) - 230 KB
Inessa (sub butterfly girl) - 138 KB
Aliss (dickgirl) - 129 KB
Jade (female, breastplay fetish) - 111 KB
Terensha (herm, hyper, latex fetish) - 116 KB
Ceria (female) - 108 KB
Lerris (sub dickgirl, milk fetish) - 98 KB
Summary: females, herms and dickgirls all the way. Few males are below content amount thresold.
 

balitz Method

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Got some examples?
So as not to just dump on anyone in particular I'll say that if you encounter a futanari there's a pretty good chance of getting

RAGH RAGH I'LL FUCK YOUR BUTT IN

out of them. Should you steer into a trap instead

UNN UNN FUCK MY BUTT IN

is more likely. So there's a lot of archetyping that gets boring and characters that blend into each other within this framework. Even when there's less of that some of the more waifuish content tends towards following beats like pick up at bar > immediate sexcapades > endearment knotting or cuddle scenes > "but see I'm actually deep" says the girl stripping her way to a neuroscience degree > repeat.

Many of the more popular characters at least try to eschew The Puppyslut Formula even if they're playing exactly to archetype and it's those divergences that drum up much of the interest or players longing to get those by-the-numbers waifu scenes out of them as an eventual payoff rather than just an upfront show of how adorable and lovable they're supposed to be.

That's why the characters who buck the trends entirely also tend to be fairly memorable.
 
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Do want to add to masculine men and women content, one day, for sure... Just need to get some practice converting my know-how of smut to TITS-verse coding and not hitting beats that folks I'm this community aren't like, super bored by.
 

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Aliss is not a trap male but a shemale, as are all the other ovir males in existance.
I guess by original definition of 'trap' Aliss fits it, being for all intents and purposes female outwardly until "surprise!" and her dong is revealed.
 

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some of the more waifuish content tends towards following beats like pick up at bar > immediate sexcapades > endearment knotting or cuddle scenes > "but see I'm actually deep" says the girl stripping her way to a neuroscience degree > repeat.
It might be just me, but I have a good way to tell which ones they are - those which thread forums, after seeing the writer develop cuddle scenes, flood with "Hand holding? How lewd!" messages. (That joke stopped being funny ages ago, I swear...)
 

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The difference is basically which framework it works off of. A trap has a male body as its base (flat chest, schlong, balls) but looks androgynous due to facial features and maybe wider hips, shorter height, stuff like that. A futanari starts with a female body (noticeable breasts, usually but not necessarily a cunt, standard hips and facial features) but has some parts that can confuse things, like a dick (with or without balls) - outside of those, though, their features aren't really androgynous. Hermaphrodites are the opposite, starting with a male body but with the opposite or both parts down below.
 

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It might be just me, but I have a good way to tell which ones they are - those which thread forums, after seeing the writer develop cuddle scenes, flood with "Hand holding? How lewd!" messages. (That joke stopped being funny ages ago, I swear...)
Whenever you get the Same Ol Memes you can be sure that I've just been in this place before even if I try to cancel.
 

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The difference is basically which framework it works off of. A trap has a male body as its base (flat chest, schlong, balls) but looks androgynous due to facial features and maybe wider hips, shorter height, stuff like that. A futanari starts with a female body (noticeable breasts, usually but not necessarily a cunt, standard hips and facial features) but has some parts that can confuse things, like a dick (with or without balls) - outside of those, though, their features aren't really androgynous. Hermaphrodites are the opposite, starting with a male body but with the opposite or both parts down below.
While those may be your definitions of those words, those aren’t the definitions TiTS uses. Futanarti and herm both refer to people specifically with both a vagina and a dick, but futa refers solely to feminine body types, while herm can refer to a masculine or feminine body type.
 

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@sumgai You forgot Penny (female, can be pushed gently nudged to a futa) although I'm still a bit annoyed that her only vaginal content is when she's penetrating you. Unless bimbo Penny has vaginal content, but I'm not really into that stuff.
 
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Bimbo Penny does have vaginal, but she drones on about cum throughout most of the act(like she does involving anything you choose at that point). Which is kind of funny.
 

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While those may be your definitions of those words, those aren’t the definitions TiTS uses. Futanarti and herm both refer to people specifically with both a vagina and a dick, but futa refers solely to feminine body types, while herm can refer to a masculine or feminine body type.
TiTS doesn't maintain or enforce consistency period when it comes to word usage.

Hermaphrodite is specifically a male character who loses his tackle box and gains a tentfold or winds up with both depending on the telling, though, while futanari is a loanword that refers specifically to the opposite situation. So when you're talking about body archetypes these are the correct definitions. From there lines can be blurred with usage and people not knowing origins and exact meanings and so on.
 

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Hermaphrodite is specifically a male character who loses his tackle box and gains a tentfold or winds up with both depending on the telling, though, while futanari is a loanword that refers specifically to the opposite situation. So when you're talking about body archetypes these are the correct definitions. From there lines can be blurred with usage and people not knowing origins and exact meanings and so on.
Ok cool but most forum users (including me) don't really care about originally correct definitions. In the TiTS dick-tionary,
Futanarti and herm both refer to people specifically with both a vagina and a dick, but futa refers solely to feminine body types, while herm can refer to a masculine or feminine body type.
 

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He's wrong anyway, herm is short for hermaphrodite, which is a medical term for any being with both male and female sex organs.
 

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You forgot Penny (female, can be pushed gently nudged to a futa) although I'm still a bit annoyed that her only vaginal content is when she's penetrating you. Unless bimbo Penny has vaginal content, but I'm not really into that stuff.
Outside the shower stuff, Normal Penny already DOES have a repeatable vaginal scene where she gets the dicking, I believe it's when you bend her over the table and play with her ears before railing her.
 
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@sumgai You forgot Penny (female, can be pushed gently nudged to a futa) although I'm still a bit annoyed that her only vaginal content is when she's penetrating you. Unless bimbo Penny has vaginal content, but I'm not really into that stuff.

I stopped at Tavros NPCs... I didn't even list them all there before I got tired of it. :p
 
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A 'trap' is a feminine male, I would recommend never saying 'shemale' but it is used to refer to transwomen in porn, and futanari is a hentai term that means they have both and usually refers to women('futa' literally means 'two'). A hermaphrodite is a creature that can change it's sex naturally like a clownfish, someone with some combination of male and female sexual and reproductive organs would be intersex.
 
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A 'trap' is a feminine male, I would recommend never saying 'shemale' but it is used to refer to transwomen in porn, and futanari is a hentai term that means they have both and usually refers to women('futa' literally means 'two'). A hermaphrodite is a creature that can change it's sex naturally like a clownfish, someone with some combination of male and female sexual and reproductive organs would be intersex.
So, then what are slugs? Or flowering plants with both stamen and pistil in same flower? They have both organs at same time, no male or female dimorophism, and don't switch. And there are plenty other organisms like that.

Basically, you're terminology is wrong. A hermaphrodite, as stated multiple times, is not a switching animal but one with both fully functional organs at the same time naturally. Intersex only applies to fully sex-separate species as a genetic/development condition.
 

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Don't bring up the 'slur' thing plz Scarlett. It gets convoluted (Or whatever the word for it is, I can't think of another way to describe it) considering you're playing a game where girls with dicks, whether actual trans or not, are usually referred to as shemales regardless simply for the dick+boobs combo as is. And many people, plus the writers of said characters use the same porn terminology on them constantly. You can't recommend and expect people to not say something just to keep from offending you, nobody likes word policers bruh. >.>

And yeah, hermaphrodites are not a 'creature' as in specific individuals but rather a specific genital arrangement. If you have the genitals (Not counting boobs since they obviously aren't genitals) of both genders you are a hermaphrodite. The common ways of herms in porn is the usual working dick (Optionally balls)+vag and womb combo, the common male/female bits, but outside some rl animals and plants, it's kinda complicated with humans I think, not to mention rare as heck, and if you were to find one irl, chances are they probably won't be fully functioning like in porn.

A clownfish changing sexes is not hermaphrodism, herms have both male and female genitals, they don't 'change sexes' because there's no point to. Both males and females can have herm genital arrangements (With ofc the latter being known as futas like we're familiar with today)
 
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I just meant to point out that in humans, and theoretically humanoids, it would be incorrect to call them a hermaphrodite and that they would instead be called intersex.
'Shemale' is a terrible word. I ignore seeing it in-game, but it's really awful to hear. I'm not trying to police language, I'm just saying that it hurts a bit.

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Another issue is that 'hermaphrodite' can mean a lot of things, which is why intersex is used.
 

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I just meant to point out that in humans, and theoretically humanoids, it would be incorrect to call them a hermaphrodite and that they would instead be called intersex
This only applies to, again, species that doesn't have natural hermaphrodism in it. Kaithrit, Gryvain, etc, none of these are intersexed. I get it, yeah, some people are fucking dicks. I'm a fucking biologist. Hermaphrodite has and always will be to me as I've stated. Never a slur, always a specific definer.
 
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It might be just me, but I have a good way to tell which ones they are - those which thread forums, after seeing the writer develop cuddle scenes, flood with "Hand holding? How lewd!" messages. (That joke stopped being funny ages ago, I swear...)

This. If there's something that ruins my game experience are those almost-the-same-but-different-looking NPC, and the people that keeps pulling that annoying (and frankly, a bit dumb) joke on the forums.
 
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Wow, things certainly got a bit off topic and turned into a debate. Let's not on here. Make a new thread if you want to continue debating about futa/herms and what's a slur. I will say just one thing though. If a word to you doesn't feel like a slur doesn't mean it's not for others, especially those it may target.

Anyways, back on topic! I absolutely adore the female naleen too. I remember when I finally got the cuddle scene and she wanted to skip fighting. I awwed. I'm trying to think if we have any naleen characters but besides that party that Sera takes Steele to, no, we don't. So I'd love to see the female naleen or at least a new one you can chat up/sex.