Who would be the other parent of your successor?

[Balek Crisp]

I love how no one is mentioning the obvious option of marrying your cousin, taking over MaxCorp after sidelining your other cousin, and forming an interstellar tech conglomerate so powerful that galactic governments must legally recognize "Half-Steele" as a new subspecies. Which, in my save, includes dozens of half-frostwyrms and an exponentially increasing number of cunt-snakes.
Then again, unleashing The Wintertide via Frostwyrm offspring seems like an amazing option, I'm not surprised it's the first one many would go for XD

For me it's because it's kind of just not a normal thing. Usually when one thinks about settling down and passing the torch, they'd want someone normal to spend their life with. A heir would be treated as a direct family member rather than somebody that's either an accident, product of rape, or the byproduct of a pregnancy fetish.

As for the whole cousin thing, this assumes that Jack/Jill actually have a real stake in MaxCorp, and Max isn't just using them to steal your inheritance. The rival also doesn't really have many skills besides piloting a ship from the sounds of it, so they'd have tons of catching up to do either way before being able to become a viable parent.

The dragon thing, well, that's because one would have to spend a whole decade or more before taking over Uveto. And it kinda doesn't protect the Steele Legacy unless you make the Frostwyrm Ichor available. It would be something for later until the company was left in good hands for that period of time.

 

[Gplikespie]

For me it's because it's kind of just not a normal thing. Usually when one thinks about settling down and passing the torch, they'd want someone normal to spend their life with. A heir would be treated as a direct family member rather than somebody that's either an accident, product of rape, or the byproduct of a pregnancy fetish.

As for the whole cousin thing, this assumes that Jack/Jill actually have a real stake in MaxCorp, and Max isn't just using them to steal your inheritance. The rival also doesn't really have many skills besides piloting a ship from the sounds of it, so they'd have tons of catching up to do either way before being able to become a viable parent.

The dragon thing, well, that's because one would have to spend a whole decade or more before taking over Uveto. And it kinda doesn't protect the Steele Legacy unless you make the Frostwyrm Ichor available. It would be something for later until the company was left in good hands for that period of time.

Yeah to be fair, Steele Sr did not do the greatest job. Instead of picking an extant offspring, he decided to custom-tailor an 'heir' who's job was to simply re-live his own glory days.


Captain' Steele's dad was... not a great person. It seems likely that, while he used kindness in business and believed in spreading generous idealism, he ALSO was a selfish and arrogant person who never took into consideration that others had their own lives and adventures.

At the end of the day, I think the best 'partner' for Steele would probably be whichever crewmate they bonded with the most along the way. I'd guess Steele would end up poly, or would eventually just pass the company on to a relative or friend and go back on the adventure after a few centuries.

 

[A1teros]

I love how no one is mentioning the obvious option of marrying your cousin, taking over MaxCorp after sidelining your other cousin, and forming an interstellar tech conglomerate so powerful that galactic governments must legally recognize "Half-Steele" as a new subspecies. Which, in my save, includes dozens of half-frostwyrms and an exponentially increasing number of cunt-snakes.
Then again, unleashing The Wintertide via Frostwyrm offspring seems like an amazing option, I'm not surprised it's the first one many would go for XD

Oh this whole thread is pretty much fishing for alternatives because I didn't think that'd be a possibility but it seems I was wrong about that. Jill is definitely the optimal choice plot wise.

 

[Balek Crisp]

Yeah to be fair, Steele Sr did not do the greatest job. Instead of picking an extant offspring, he decided to custom-tailor an 'heir' who's job was to simply re-live his own glory days.


Captain' Steele's dad was... not a great person. It seems likely that, while he used kindness in business and believed in spreading generous idealism, he ALSO was a selfish and arrogant person who never took into consideration that others had their own lives and adventures.

At the end of the day, I think the best 'partner' for Steele would probably be whichever crewmate they bonded with the most along the way. I'd guess Steele would end up poly, or would eventually just pass the company on to a relative or friend and go back on the adventure after a few centuries.

I wouldn't say that Victor Steele is that bad either. An unquestionable horndog and kind of a huge idiot sending their kid on the most dangerous activity ever, sure, but Captain Steele's classes(except maybe smuggler) all came with skills + job skills that at large made it fairly easy to complete the main quest in a month or less while not having to worry about your deadweight rival or pregnancy generally rearing its ugly head before the quest finishes. And there is merit in being a rusher first: You'd be personally aware of all the problems and huge risks that are out on the frontier + general safety concerns found easiness in the lawlessness of the frontiers, and will have made useful connections on the frontier that can help spread your influence. Also, if you consider the Frostwyrm, training you up to be a worthwhile mate for that dragon ends up working out best for you in the long run.

Though if we're including cut concepts, then yeah, Captain Steele having to go to over a dozen planets would be serious overkill and giving a massive amount of risk for no reason. I'd cross the line after Phaedra; Captain Steele would not need more planets to get the message and experience needed to understand people's problems.

 

[Somechuvak]

I wouldn't say that Victor Steele is that bad either. An unquestionable horndog and kind of a huge idiot sending their kid on the most dangerous activity ever, sure,

More like he's an egomaniac who wants to live on vicariously through a designer baby

 

[WhoAmI]

I personally would pick Bianca. I like the character, she's an intelligent woman, and she's a foxy lady. Shame her writer has disappeared, or left.

 

[LupaTheBard]

Bianca. But alas, anything involving her is but a bittersweet midsummer dream; thoughts of what might've been after reading the docs. A shame truly.

Since that option isn't a plausible one, then Jill, it's pretty interesting seeing the growth your rival went through ever since you rescued them from the factory (if you chose to do so) specially since an alliance with dear uncle's corp would be a huge thing story-wise.

Really hope the rivals get more content added in the future. They've become one of my favourites... bratty twats.​

 

[Balek Crisp]

More like he's an egomaniac who wants to live on vicariously through a designer baby

A designer baby... how, exactly? Sure, he can choose whether or not you have a huge or small peen, but ultimately, Captain Steele has a lot of options to re-design themselves with relatively inexpensive options(with the exception of any males as dicksprout/vivirection is very hard to get).

 

[TheShepard256]

A designer baby... how, exactly?

The definition of a designer baby is someone who was deliberately genetically modified prior to their birth, typically for cosmetic reasons and/or to give them some form of advantage rather than for health reasons; that makes Captain Steele one, regardless of what they choose to do with their body later in life.

 

[Gplikespie]

A designer baby... how, exactly? Sure, he can choose whether or not you have a huge or small peen, but ultimately, Captain Steele has a lot of options to re-design themselves with relatively inexpensive options(with the exception of any males as dicksprout/vivirection is very hard to get).

Did you do the tutorial? There's a part where the doctor literally has Victor sitting down and choosing his kid's size, shape, and characteristics.
It goes on before and after that too: Vic made a decision about what species the mother would be and used wealth and power to secure a no-doubt genetically-desirable (by his own standards) member of that species. Then after gestation, he discards the other parent with a check and an NDA, takes the kid, and psychologically crafts them according to HIS designs.

By all accounts, Steele lead a sheltered life with few friends prior to the story, and every interaction they had was tailored to Vic's intentions. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that a number of people in Steele's past were just paid actors. Heck, Vic got a nurse DROID, someone he could have programmed to always treat Steele in a particular way.

I'd make the argument that Victor Steele is every bit the cold-hearted manipulative sociopath that Max is. You simply don't get to be one of the richest people in the world/galaxy, at the head of a juggernaught of a company WITHOUT being willing to steamroll the competition (romantically or economically) in any way needed, and without mercy.

I think the main difference is that Vic's more of a Bill Gates than a Mark Zuckerberg: A friendly smile and plenty of visible charity, all backed by an army of lawyers ready to sue anyone for the slightest advantage, relying on goodwill from people who owe him favors and are in emotional debt to him.
Max is the other way: A cold man who makes it know that to cross him is either instant (financial) death, or a slow painful slide into bankruptcy as he steals your company with hired thugs and bribed officials.

To see Jack/Jill and Captain Steele manage to find common ground and both turn out nicer than their dads is heartwarming.

 

[Jarylan]

Did you do the tutorial? There's a part where the doctor literally has Victor sitting down and choosing his kid's size, shape, and characteristics.
It goes on before and after that too: Vic made a decision about what species the mother would be and used wealth and power to secure a no-doubt genetically-desirable (by his own standards) member of that species. Then after gestation, he discards the other parent with a check and an NDA, takes the kid, and psychologically crafts them according to HIS designs.

By all accounts, Steele lead a sheltered life with few friends prior to the story, and every interaction they had was tailored to Vic's intentions. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that a number of people in Steele's past were just paid actors. Heck, Vic got a nurse DROID, someone he could have programmed to always treat Steele in a particular way.

I'd make the argument that Victor Steele is every bit the cold-hearted manipulative sociopath that Max is. You simply don't get to be one of the richest people in the world/galaxy, at the head of a juggernaught of a company WITHOUT being willing to steamroll the competition (romantically or economically) in any way needed, and without mercy.

I think the main difference is that Vic's more of a Bill Gates than a Mark Zuckerberg: A friendly smile and plenty of visible charity, all backed by an army of lawyers ready to sue anyone for the slightest advantage, relying on goodwill from people who owe him favors and are in emotional debt to him.
Max is the other way: A cold man who makes it know that to cross him is either instant (financial) death, or a slow painful slide into bankruptcy as he steals your company with hired thugs and bribed officials.

To see Jack/Jill and Captain Steele manage to find common ground and both turn out nicer than their dads is heartwarming.

I had a whole thread on this once, but comparing the loving face Victor showed Captain Steele, and the loving adoration of many, with some of his worse actions is a interesting time.

Is Victor a good person? We may never know. He certainly seemed to love Captain Steele though. Like all of us, he was probably more complex than we give credit for.

 

[Kitbashed]

"You know, I never actually got to know my dad all that well," you remark. "Even as a kid, I didn't see him very often; he was always away on his 'business trips.' " Anno shoots you a look that you can't quite read. "Well, I didn't know him personally for very long, but he was a good guy—" "Anno, I'm not your boss." Not yet at least. "What was he really like?" "Steele... how the fuck am I supposed to answer that?" she sighs, her usual cheeriness nowhere to be found. "I'm sure you've heard the rumors, that he was a cold-hearted cutthroat, a manipulative womanizer.... Hell, truth be told, I still don't even know how I feel about him. He was there for me when I was at my lowest; I genuinely thought that he cared about me, you know? Then, before I knew it, he just dumped me on some rusty backwater and kicked the bucket a few months later. Didn't even bother inviting me to his funeral." She leaves you to chew on that thought.

 

[Balek Crisp]

Did you do the tutorial? There's a part where the doctor literally has Victor sitting down and choosing his kid's size, shape, and characteristics.
It goes on before and after that too: Vic made a decision about what species the mother would be and used wealth and power to secure a no-doubt genetically-desirable (by his own standards) member of that species. Then after gestation, he discards the other parent with a check and an NDA, takes the kid, and psychologically crafts them according to HIS designs.

By all accounts, Steele lead a sheltered life with few friends prior to the story, and every interaction they had was tailored to Vic's intentions. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that a number of people in Steele's past were just paid actors. Heck, Vic got a nurse DROID, someone he could have programmed to always treat Steele in a particular way.

I'd make the argument that Victor Steele is every bit the cold-hearted manipulative sociopath that Max is. You simply don't get to be one of the richest people in the world/galaxy, at the head of a juggernaught of a company WITHOUT being willing to steamroll the competition (romantically or economically) in any way needed, and without mercy.

I think the main difference is that Vic's more of a Bill Gates than a Mark Zuckerberg: A friendly smile and plenty of visible charity, all backed by an army of lawyers ready to sue anyone for the slightest advantage, relying on goodwill from people who owe him favors and are in emotional debt to him.
Max is the other way: A cold man who makes it know that to cross him is either instant (financial) death, or a slow painful slide into bankruptcy as he steals your company with hired thugs and bribed officials.

To see Jack/Jill and Captain Steele manage to find common ground and both turn out nicer than their dads is heartwarming.

Bill Gates being equivalent to Victor Steele imo isn't a good comparison. Bill Gates is far more insideous and malevolent than a guy that just wants to create an ideal person in a world where all of that could be changed again for a small amount of credits with his business on-hand. Hell, if you ALSO paid attention, Vic was a fucking druggie who also transformed into something else every 5 seconds, so much to the point that his other crotch spawn can't narrow down what he looked like. So what if he made someone be a particular appearance? That wasn't going to matter anyways with the nanites that literally prevent Captain Steele from dying the same way Victor Steele did with the constant appearance changing; Captain Steele has much more freedom than Vic ever did in his own life even.

Gates also does more than merely emotional debt and favors. He funds and tries to steal extremely profitable ventures, hides under several proxy companies that do his malevolent bidding, and likely has done worse things than Victor Steele could've ever done with what the dev team wrote about Vic. He is also suspected of being buddy-buddy with our man Jeffery and his island of depravity. And that's just the tip of the iceberg; his money is so everywhere, you don't need a where. Just a when: When's the next thing he is gonna destroy or corrupt be touched before he dies?

Victor Steele by comparison has sent a random science girl over to a literal dump(probably in anticipation of Novahome and also Captain Steele coming along for sloppy seconds with Anno, but still kind of a dick move since we don't have any evidence to see if he knew about the gray goo or if a probe would hit that planet), left a MASSIVE trail of bastards so large that to paraphrase another person: "Is large enough to be a barcode", and probably didn't manage his company well in his final days post-heir creation. Sure, we could mention the nurse droid, but who the hell gives a crap really? Where's the need to complain about a robotic family member? Just because she could be programmed a certain way doesn't mean she'd be any less important, now would it?

 

[Balek Crisp]

The definition of a designer baby is someone who was deliberately genetically modified prior to their birth, typically for cosmetic reasons and/or to give them some form of advantage rather than for health reasons; that makes Captain Steele one, regardless of what they choose to do with their body later in life.

Ok, you got me there. But it's not like having an advantage is a bad thing, is it? No one gets to choose to be born different(and nowadays completely normal from the looks of it), so in that way, we're all still the same. If nothing else, the fact that Victor Steele in the brief timespan we're controlling him can also choose to not give any form of advantage is also fairly telling of how normal he could've wanted Captain Steele to be. But in the end, we are Victor Steele in that particular moment of heir choosing. Who he is remains mostly up to the imagination.

 

[Balek Crisp]

"You know, I never actually got to know my dad all that well," you remark. "Even as a kid, I didn't see him very often; he was always away on his 'business trips.' " Anno shoots you a look that you can't quite read. "Well, I didn't know him personally for very long, but he was a good guy—" "Anno, I'm not your boss." Not yet at least. "What was he really like?" "Steele... how the fuck am I supposed to answer that?" she sighs, her usual cheeriness nowhere to be found. "I'm sure you've heard the rumors, that he was a cold-hearted cutthroat, a manipulative womanizer.... Hell, truth be told, I still don't even know how I feel about him. He was there for me when I was at my lowest; I genuinely thought that he cared about me, you know? Then, before I knew it, he just dumped me on some rusty backwater and kicked the bucket a few months later. Didn't even bother inviting me to his funeral." She leaves you to chew on that thought.

This was like the one thing that came to mind when I was replaying the game recently in thought of what Victor Steele was like. Thread made me run it all back, and I think I can ultimately say that at least through the lens of Captain Steele, we're not meant to really draw any conclusions. Him getting Anno on Tarkus and dying shortly after might've just been in anticipation of you arriving there(he was obviously the type to think past the confines of his death or he wouldn't have had Steele). Maybe he knew what was at Novahome, but didn't have time to really act on it and so he sent Anno to solve it while getting Steele to pick her up. Maybe he just wanted Anno to find some cool tech to occupy herself with, seeing as she accepts data core salvages and there's Hand So on Tarkus(not to mention two criminally insane yet genius doctors on the planet one of which with tech that can make Captain Steele smarter).

I think the lack of invite to the funeral could've been for any number of reasons. Maybe he just forgot. Maybe he didn't wanna have the people who cared for him see him in such a sorry state. Hard to think about your funeral when it's the last thing you'll ever get to think about, it'd be weird and terrifying enough to think about it as is for anyone close to the end of their life, and inviting someone to see your corpse wouldn't be a thing to think about. Me personally, I don't want people looking at me like I'm a sorry pos after all I've been with them on or through with, I'd rather them be happy and remember the things I gave to make them and others happy.