Dude still gave you his time and the amount of work he could give, could be less of a butt and let him down easier.
What are things in TiTS that you absolutely hate to happen or do?
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Dude still gave you his time and the amount of work he could give, could be less of a butt and let him down easier.
The quality of his writing is the elephant in the room. I have drafted several times posts that would try to advise Nate to writer better, only to be advised that they were still too mean with whatever tact i can muster. There is a general spirit of supporting writers in this community, one i think Nate has unfairly benefited from, but at the end of the day the truth is his content is not meet expectations. However much he writes, it only matters if it is accepted. There are plenty of individuals around here that are willing to work with writers to improve their content, but most avoid Nate's work due to the numerous pitfalls their designs fall into. Until he has at least once substantive project implemented (and it ain't going to be big tiddy goth gf), he has no entitlement to the purple name.
I feel like if you guys are going to be brutally honest or give harsh constructive criticism, you should do it in Nate's DM's so he can actually analyze and learn from it. Openly stating his inadequacies in a completely random thread like this just seems a little cruel, especially when you call out some of the projects that he's clearly passionate about. I'm not a serious writer by any stretch of the imagination and I have no idea what the inner workings of the writing community for TiTS is like, so I'm sorry if I'm being presumptuous, but this level of hostility just feels unwarranted based on what Nate said and what I've seen of his work.
Let me be clear: i have nothing against Nate as a person. He/she could be a lovely person. I do, however, have many grievances with the "give me purple" mentality with which he last posted. I see it as a selfish and greedy post with, in my opinion, no foundation built for it to stand on. It smacks all known creators in the face in terms of quality comparison and just puts a sour taste in my mouth. Now, nate can absolutely put in the time and effort to get really good at what they write and eventually make enough to warrant said title, but until then, they need to realize the reality of their situation that one small piece does not grant the role.
And to all those who said i was harsh: i was nowhere near as harsh as i could be
And to all those who said i was harsh: i was nowhere near as harsh as i could be
She's not ready to be a mommy yet.
If you have to blame something, blame the Sterlix she uses.
That little habit and how prolific it is among porn writing irks me a bit too. It's not even descriptive, honestly, I've no idea whatsoever what an H cup would look like and I doubt the writer does, either. Feels a bit like power levels for boobs, everything's made up and the numbers don't matter but we sure know they're big!
Seems more than enough to me to just slip in that they're stacked, and if they're ridiculously stacked something along those lines works, too. Hearing it described by cup size all the time is just weird and not even conductive to good smut writing. I'd rather hear a creative way of describing them than another bra size.
"You look over and holy shit she's got some tity monsters, I mean some real hummangonguluses, some serious honahonkalongases. You wonder how she even walks! But then you realize she just a distorded reflection of some one standing next to some ship part."
We already have this lovely chart pretty much any writer uses. Made by one of the staffmembers. Jacques00.
Still, what would you suggest? Some people use ball comparison (or melon/watermelon and other round objects), but anything else that's not a direct comparison is just completely abstract. That's why most people prefer to use the cup size.
Cup size is terribly innaccurate for giving you an idea of breast size, though. Cup size is all in relation to band size, so while on that infographic my tits are a little bit smaller than the DD, I'd be considered a 30E in American sizing because I have small ribcage/am skinny. That obviously doesn't match up with Jacques diagram thingo.
As a women, I honestly roll my eyes whenever breast size is just given in cup size, because it just doesn't make sense in real life. If a character is thicker, even with big boobs their cup size should be smaller than a thinner character with the same breast size. However, the writers in the game don't take this in account at all, and go the opposite way. And don't get me started on some of the artist (all the busts are on average 3+ cup sizes than what's described).
There's no easy answer for this, of course. But considering just giving out cup size and/or measurements in books/erotica is thought to be bad/lazy writing, I don't think it's the right move. I prefer just the flat chested/small/hand-sized/large/gigantic descriptors. It gives the readers more leeway in imagining what a character looks like, while still directing that imagination. But that's just my personal opinion!
this is sadly one of the liberties that need to be taken for bust artists, who are the primary ones that use the descriptions for artwork. it dumbs down the system so that the artist doesn't have a million questions on how big exactly the breasts are. it's like saying "oh, he/she's got a 13" dick," well, what's the girth, the overall tip size, the knot? what's the difference between erect/not erect? these measurements, while important, also aren't specified.
TL;DR it's universal for the artist, not necessarily the reader
Yeah, that's exactly why they don't make for good descriptions. They're not even referencing real cup sizes but rather the abstract idea in the male mind of what each one looks like (i.e. A is quite small, B and C are about average, D and DD are the go-to "now we're cooking with fire" size, E and F are getting into super stacked territory and anything beyond that an even more vague abstraction).
I'm also of the opinion that using generalised descriptors that still fit that rough scale (flat chested/small/hand-sized/large/gigantic) reads less awkwardly and cuts to the chase, too.
It's not even for the artists, either, Adjatha's just going to give everyone big balloon breasts no matter what the description says.
I'm also of the opinion that using generalised descriptors that still fit that rough scale (flat chested/small/hand-sized/large/gigantic) reads less awkwardly and cuts to the chase, too.
It's not even for the artists, either, Adjatha's just going to give everyone big balloon breasts no matter what the description says.
Those descriptors are even more abstract. Hand sized, compared to whose hands? Yours? Your PC's? Well if your pc is 15 foot tall it might have gigantic hands.
I try to use a mix of those, but I still think cup size is the best system we have if you pair it with that chart I posted.
True to some extent, but the equivalent for a 13 inch dick is if the artist drew it dragging on the geound. You don't need to get into specifics for some things, but if the writer says it's 13 inches, it shouldn't be drawn as if it's so long that it drags on the ground. It should be relatively right, not obviously and quite distinctly wrong.
Some of the characters are written as have small breasts, b-c cups. But if you look on the bust, their boobs are bigger than their head. That's past artist interpretation of the description, that's just plain wrong. Like drawing a red headed character with green hair. A writer doesn't need to go into the exact shade of red for the artist, but you do expect it to be some kind of red.
It's mostly Adjatha that does this, and if you look in this thread and a few other places you'll see it's a common complaint with his (gorgeous) art. His art is amazing, but that's just an area I think he struggles with.
Yes, those descriptors are more vague, and if you really thought hand-sized was too up to interpretation you can go just go with the flat-chested/small/whatever sizing. A reader doesn't have to have their hand held with every little thing, and depending on how much detail is given to breast descriptions or if there are scenes that primarily involve their tiddies, a reader can get a great idea for their size and what they look like without ever have to give their cup-size.
But what I'm saying is that even with the chart system, using cup-size doesn't make sense because every character is different thickness-wise and muscle wise. That effects your cup-size. Yes, to men who haven't ever worn a bra or who has never had to actually calculate sizing it looks simple, but it's really, honestly not. Men just assuming >B is small, C is average-small and <D is big. In reality it doesn't work like that. If we had someone with a static body shape and just increased breast size, the chart would make some sense (although, in my opinion, the sizing is a little off in it) but because the characters body types are wildly different it just doesn't make sense.
If you're writing a novel, it's bad writing to say X character looked like she had these measurements and this cup size. It doesn't actually mean what men think it means, and often the numbers/sizing given would be plain wrong for a character with that body type.
Again, it's a gripe with the game but I don't think the writers are bad for including it in their descriptions. It's a very common thing in communities like this, mostly because it's largely made up of men who have never needed to really know bra-sizing. As someone who knows about the subject, it's frustrating for me and takes me out of it.
Same, honestly. I have tits and I don't even know how cup size is supposed to be an accurate measurement for breasts. "She has C-cups" okay? So? Is she wide-bodied? Tall? Muscular? Throwing a cup size at me doesn't convey anything about her breasts. You're just telling me what cup size she wears. It's like if everyone's dick size was measured through what size sports cup they wear. You're giving absolutely no information whatsoever. Just say what size their tits are relative to their body. "She is six feet tall, with a thin frame and breasts that would fit snugly into her hands." This conveys more clearly what size breasts they have. The player can visualize what size her breasts are, instead of having to look up a bra chart or make a guess. It's as simple as that.
Back in the CoC days, I truly struggled with measures, as my homeplace doesn't use Imperial system or that letter one for bras. I shudder to think what would happen if Fengames also used shoe measures 
Whilst I am really thankful for Jacques00's chart, I'd very much prefer it if most, if not all measures were left vague. Especially when confronted with busts conflicting the ingame descriptions.
Whilst I am really thankful for Jacques00's chart, I'd very much prefer it if most, if not all measures were left vague. Especially when confronted with busts conflicting the ingame descriptions.
People keep complaining about boob measurements. I think the best thing would be to reference tit size with objects, why because that's easier to scale in your mind than a ton of numbers and factors, which by the way verys from diffrent countries. If that something you want in the game then have fun figuring those fuck ton of individual factors into an accurate system and than having it implemented into the current system, with the option to choose which system to use. Hence imperial measurements verses inches.
As somebody up there mentioned, this is a case of an abstraction used in smut drawing leaking into smut writing. If you ask for a nude lady off an established artist, they will generally ask for cup size - it's simply a short hand way of asking how big the boobs are.
There's also an arms race element to it not dissimilar to what happens with dicks. 'I see this established character has J cups... I better make sure MY waifu has K cups, just so it's clear she's special.' You can't really do that with ambiguous size descriptions.
I have been doing my best to avoid giving measurements like these in my writing more recently, and relying on said watermelons and zuccinis and so on. I think it's much better to do that kind of thing, and let the reader's imagination do the rest. TiTS has this whole size/capacity system set up so both the NPCs and PCs dimensions have to be known, and I don't think much good has ever come of it.
There's also an arms race element to it not dissimilar to what happens with dicks. 'I see this established character has J cups... I better make sure MY waifu has K cups, just so it's clear she's special.' You can't really do that with ambiguous size descriptions.
I have been doing my best to avoid giving measurements like these in my writing more recently, and relying on said watermelons and zuccinis and so on. I think it's much better to do that kind of thing, and let the reader's imagination do the rest. TiTS has this whole size/capacity system set up so both the NPCs and PCs dimensions have to be known, and I don't think much good has ever come of it.
This is actually really worth mentioning in this discussion. When it comes to the code, we need solid values of some form or another in order for much of the game to work. That, unfortunately, often means using an imprecise system of measurements in order to be able to quantify the descriptors in some way or another, in this case reducing breast size down to a list from "A" cup to "NN" (I think that's the max) cup or cocks being given in just length because they just use the default thickness ratio. Can writers avoid using the terms in their actual writing and only list it in an appearance page they put? Yeah, that could be something they do, but it's far easier for them to just use the standard set of systems and predispositions we have when it comes to those sizes in the context of the universe to provide an image of one form or another
As a dude who has had to look up a bust size chart for characters in the sand game I agree with you.
I hate being forced dom'd to progress a story, it's fine if it's in there its just a personal dislike of mine. The underground criminal organization on Tavros for example, I beat and destroyed things far more intimidating and powerful than this Yakuza looking Dom girl... honestly think I could take her down but I'm given the choices to either die or to submit in one of three ways. I'm sure its possibly from it not being completely finished maybe? Honestly only an idiot would go to their hideout after disrupting their operation because they sent an email saying "Come for free stuff" so I imagine this route is the only option due to it being incomplete? If not well... I really really really want that hardlight sword so *shrug*.
me too
i followed that quest assuming i could take down the organization
...then i was dommed with no other choices
Even if that is true that there's a warning it's still frustrating for an individual who beats up a pirate operating a mining mechanism to easily be beaten without a fight by a few random individuals. I mean at least doctor badger was a genius who was damn well prepared when your character stumbled in.
The more everyone complains about Akane the more I respect Soandso for gating all this awesome equipment behind an encounter that makes a portion of the audience go "reeeeeee".
I have no reason to lie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd say it's a dissonance between main play and quest play.
Oh in that case never mind. That's just dumb if a person doesn't notice that before they dive in.I have no reason to lie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd say it's a dissonance between main play and quest play.
I knew the ending but went to test it just incase. The wiki didn't have a direct link to info on the quest so I went to check if there were other routes available. I am new so I don't know everything that is and isn't finished yet. I don't mind if the options here are all there is, I personally just won't like it. If the only way to get a powerful item is to take a few lashings I'll take it, grumble about it, and take my prize and leave. It won't be the end of the world for me. At this moment though I have the shock gloves so I am content to wait around to see if anything to this quest expands before acting upon it.
don't worry guys, it's even more cruel to get the loot and earn their trust, then go away for all eternity. due to this the character will forever wonder what they did wrong to push you so far away as to never return. they will see you, just one space too far away to get the proper interraction menu.