Ultimate Character?

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So with the prolonged isolation. I thought I'd take to the time to get, and maybe attempt to build, what people consider to be the Ultimate character in this game..... But the first question to this is, what do people consider to be the ultimate character? What class, build, equipment, and kinky alterations make up the ultimate monster character?
 

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From a pure damage perspective? Ranged Mercenary with all the ranged perks. Armed with the Saurmorian Railgun and wearing Roz's power armour or the Frostwyrm Plate. All that, puts the laughter in slaughter.

Kink-wise? Double dicks around 12" long with knots and a cockvine gives you maximum access to most of the sex scenes in the game.
 

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Ugh, this question again...

There is no ultimate character. It's all down to personal play style and looks preference. It's highly subjective.
 
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Its not that subjective. Mercenaries are probably the strongest class at the moment, with their passive perks really do boost their damage. Really, they're the juggernaut of the game.

And ultimate can also cover the number of scenes one can get access to.

About the only subjective thing is the genitalia, now that comes down to personal preference.
 

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Ugh, this question again...

There is no ultimate character. It's all down to personal play style and looks preference. It's highly subjective.
Hey now no reason to get all upset about it. This is just for fun, thus the reason I included the kink alteration, cause let's be real that doesn't add anything really. Personally I usually go tech, but that gets kind of repetitive. Specially when your on week 5 of not leaving an apartment.
 

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If you want to be a friggin' tank, Tech specialist with shield perks is really tough to take out via damage.
 
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Hey now no reason to get all upset about it. This is just for fun, thus the reason I included the kink alteration, cause let's be real that doesn't add anything really. Personally I usually go tech, but that gets kind of repetitive. Specially when your on week 5 of not leaving an apartment.
I'm not upset, I apologize if that's how it sounded. I'm more exasperated. Quite a few people have asked things like "What's the best character to play" recently, and there is no one answer. Your initial post was pretty vague. "Ultimate" is a subjective term. Now if you had asked specifically about tank or lust builds, for example, or if you had asked, "What's your favorite", that's a different conversation.

Personally, I play a Ranged Merc. It's basically what I play in all RPGs (Mass Effect, KOTR, etc). I don't care too much for a shit-ton of technical abilities. I finally settled on the Pirate Prototype Shield, Grey Goo Armor, Ice Cappers, and the Bimboleum Defense Shield for my PC. Max can sashay her way to victory as easily as dual-wielding big-ass pistols Master Chief style.
 
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Makes me sad that the best ranged weapon in the game (for power armor ranged merc at least, which is what I'm playing) is locked behind fucking a dude, because frankly, I'm not gonna do that. Aegis LMG still kicks ass though so I can't mind too much. Makes me sadder that the coolest armor in the game (power armor) is locked behind screwing over a cute girl who I feel bad for, because I'm also not gonna do that.

Honestly it would be so good if there was a quest, maybe working with Minuet/Lorelei, maybe Kara Quest 3, something like that, to steal power armor being shipped to someone (maybe to the Black Void or someone else who sucks... which is basically all the powerful people/organizations in this universe so not a very hard category). That could be really interesting. Plus more Lorelei content.
 

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Makes me sad that the best ranged weapon in the game (for power armor ranged merc at least, which is what I'm playing) is locked behind fucking a dude, because frankly, I'm not gonna do that.

Saumorian Railgun? Is that which gun you mean? Because you don't have to read everything. I definitely don't seek out scenes where my PC has to fuck a dude, but I know it's a text-based game who's pace depends on how quickly I can tap the "Next" button and power through them when I have to.

And if the Railgun is what you're talking about, it is great but I like the Ice Cappers even better; the Rule of Cool makes the pistols aces in my book.
 

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Saumorian Railgun? Is that which gun you mean? Because you don't have to read everything. I definitely don't seek out scenes where my PC has to fuck a dude, but I know it's a text-based game who's pace depends on how quickly I can tap the "Next" button and power through them when I have to.

And if the Railgun is what you're talking about, it is great but I like the Ice Cappers even better; the Rule of Cool makes the pistols aces in my book.
The idea of using pistols while wearing a bigass suit of power armor causes me pain, it would look so stupid. Anyway, I know i don't have to read it, but it matters to me, in my head, that my character doesn't have to fuck dudes. I'm a very... what's the word... empathetic? roleplayer. I want to play my character as me and make sure my character would be alright with what's happening, whether or not I read the scenes. I don't think there's anything unreasonable about that.
 

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The Stormbull Shotgun is probably tied with the Railgun for being one of the more powerful weapons in the game in terms of damage. Also helps if you imagine something like the Pancor Jackhammer.
 
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The idea of using pistols while wearing a bigass suit of power armor causes me pain, it would look so stupid.
YOU CALLIN' DA MASTER CHIEF STOOPID?!

Heh. Fair enough, depending on how you imagine the look of the PA and the Ice Cappers. One of the reasons I have a love/hate relationship with the Grey Goo Armor (my fav armor in the game) is how nebulous the descriptions are. I hate that the "Heavy Armor" option doesn't default to a description of Mjolnir Powered Assault Armor, but I love that it doesn't describe the Brotherhood of Steel PA.


Anyway, I know i don't have to read it, but it matters to me, in my head, that my character doesn't have to fuck dudes. I'm a very... what's the word... empathetic? roleplayer. I want to play my character as me and make sure my character would be alright with what's happening, whether or not I read the scenes. I don't think there's anything unreasonable about that.

I get that. You do you, boo. It's abso-fucking-lutely NOT unreasonable. Just trying to help. And "immersive roleplayer" is a good term. :)
 
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YOU CALLIN' DA MASTER CHIEF STOOPID?!

Heh. Fair enough, depending on how you imagine the look of the PA and the Ice Cappers. One of the reasons I have a love/hate relationship with the Grey Goo Armor (my fav armor in the game) is how nebulous the descriptions are. I hate that the "Heavy Armor" option doesn't default to a description of Mjolnir Powered Assault Armor, but I love that it doesn't describe the Brotherhood of Steel PA.




I get that. You do you, boo. It's abso-fucking-lutely NOT unreasonable. Just trying to help. And "immersive roleplayer" is a good term. :)

Immersive is exactly the word I intended, thank you. Anyway, I think of Heavy Armor as significantly bulkier than the armor in Halo, considering Roz's bust where it looks freaking massive. Doesn't hurt that I'm also a blue goo girl in power armor... which I just realized... dammit.
 

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My point is, your imagination is your only limit.
Oh I agree, but the power fantasy I'm indulging here is slutty under 5-foot tall blue goo lady with a ponytail almost as long as she is tall, generous (but not ridiculous) proportions, and a suit of power armor more than twice the size of her ready to tear through entire squads of enemies before trying to get plowed into the ground by the cutest girl with the biggest dick she can find. You know, having fun.

Normally I'm more of an agile melee fighter (with magic ideally) fan, but then again my general purview is more fantasy than sci-fi anyway, so...
 

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Oh I agree, but the power fantasy I'm indulging here is slutty under 5-foot tall blue goo lady with a ponytail almost as long as she is tall, generous (but not ridiculous) proportions, and a suit of power armor more than twice the size of her ready to tear through entire squads of enemies before trying to get plowed into the ground by the cutest girl with the biggest dick she can find. You know, having fun.

Normally I'm more of an agile melee fighter (with magic ideally) fan, but then again my general purview is more fantasy than sci-fi anyway, so...
I get it. Unfortunately, no game ever is going to cater to your every whim/kink/fantasy. That's why I love this game's vagueness yet curse it at the same time.
 

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I'm not sure the Saurmorian Railgun is even necessary, unless you absolutely, positively need The Biggest Numbers. I'm actually kind of surprised it held on to it's Best in Slot status for Ranged Mercenaries this long. Meanwhile, the Best Melee Weapon is probably the Custom Shock Gear, not the Saurmorian Hammer. It doesn't do as much damage, but Bonus Hit Rate + Stun Chance is extremely useful (Saurmorian Hammer has an Accuracy Penalty). As far as I'm concerned, Flags are more important than raw damage. Ranged weapons are somewhat lacking in that, unfortunately. Maybe the devs are afraid of adding interesting Ranged weapons because of Rapid Fire + Second Shot.

Melee, the best loadout is probably FZR Fire Suppression System + 'Crushing' weapon. Inflict Deep Freeze with the FZR. Deep Freeze inflicts a 50 point Evasion Penalty. Each point of Evasion below 0 is 4% more damage, which is doubled by the Auto Critical with a Crushing weapon (I think). The only downside is you have a lower chance (20%) of inflicting Deep Freeze on targets that resist Freezing (instead of 50%).

For the Ultimate Character, you probably want as many perks as possible.
Myr Venom (While it's not that good an attack, it's unique and does have some exclusive content)
Pheromone Perks all stack (Musky Pheromones, Alpha Scent, Jungle Queen Scent, Pheromone Cloud)
Energizing Libido (While the description says you can gain Energy from orgasms, the real draw is it prevents you from losing Energy from orgasm, Amazonian Endurance is unnecessary. Now that higher Libido makes Teasing more effective, this is a no-brainer. Unless you took Ice Cold at character creation.)

If you're not opposed to lactation, you can restore your own Energy out of combat via Hand Milk, if you have milk in a certain range. If you have too much, you don't benefit. Also:
Mega Milk (Can always Milk Squirt, always have enough to bribe the Rat's Raiders.)

I believe it's possible to get 190 Maximum Lust, although you have at least 20 Minimum Lust and Easy (20% more Lust from Combat sources), so 170 effective Maximum Lust. (157 if you have Treated Readiness)
+15: Dr. Badger's Dollmaker. IQ B-GONE, Big Dose. (Only if you don't already have Inhuman Desire, so has to be done first.)
+15: Mitzi's Cuntnosis. (Sets to 30 if below, does nothing if you're at or above 30. Also gives Easy.)
+40: The Treatment, Any (Best to not take Amazon because)
+20: VR Adventure while Rescuing Kiro, have sex with the Salamander Hylie. (This gives you Amazonian Needs. 'Upgrades' the Minimum Lust to 40 if you already have it.)
Amazonian Needs does not stack with Treated Readiness, so with both your Minimum Lust is still 33, not 53. If you don't have Minimum Lust at or above 20, don't bother with the last step because it's not a net gain.

If you're min-maxing the Treatment (and aren't a Mercenary), you probably want to go for Cum-Cow. Dumb4Cum is extremely useful for Smugglers and overpowered for Tech Specialists (who don't need the help). +2 Maximum Intelligence/level. If you go for long enough without drinking Cum, you can actually 'restore' your Intelligence to above what it was before, if it wasn't already maxed out, so you don't have to worry about training or putting points in Intelligence. The Ditz Speech it grants is temporary and conditional, so you don't lock yourself out of Bianca, if that's something you care about.
I have a whole rant about it, but I'll spare you.

Certain types of Wings let you hit Flying enemies with Melee attacks, reach certain places faster and while expending less Energy (Zil Village, Myrellion's Deep Cave, Cave on the Eastern Edge of Uveto) and evade the Shock Hopper's otherwise unavoidable attack, while leaving your Accessory slot free for something other than the Light Jetpack.

I hear Akane's Painslut is still hilariously overpowered, if you don't mind what you have to do to get it.
 
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I believe it's possible to get 190 Maximum Lust, although you have at least 20 Minimum Lust and Easy (20% more Lust from Combat sources), so 170 effective Maximum Lust. (157 if you have Treated Readiness)
IMO the additional +15 from Cuntnosis is debatable, as you're trading that with Easy. If you want to play it "safe" 175 Lust is pretty good.

Also going back into perks: Buttslut restores health when fluids are shot into your butt, so this works well with Energized Libido so not only do you not lose energy from buttsex, you also again health now
Flexibility is good for allowing auto-fellatio if you don't have auto-fellatio queen.
 

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Auto-fellatio is linked to dick/body ratio. Flexibility just gives you more leeway.

Even without a dick, Dumb4Cum is ridiculously easy to manage. You have quite awhile until you start taking penalties, and even afterward you still have some time before you're below 'normal' maximum.

There's a currently-inaccessible Cybernetic Synchronization perk from Goblinola. +5 Intelligence for each point of Synthetic Race score. Cybernetics are going to be implemented sometime soon(ish). I wonder if the perk will become obtainable, and if it will stack with Dumb4Cum. That will really be silly.
 
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Hmm, does Ardia's cum bubble work in this respect? Better than growing a dick and making your own
I tried (added a bubble via Save Editor), wouldn't let Steele drink it. 'You're not desperate enough'. Maybe because that Steele's not addicted? You could just go back to your ship every 2 days or so for Kase, Eitan, Amber, Ardia, Paige (if you've done her Halloween event), I'm probably forgetting some. Eventually: Syri, Dane, Edan.

Even if not, you can usually perform fellatio after at least one encounter.

The only place you're likely to have problems is Myrellion. Servere lack of BJ potential there. Getting nectar from Dally doesn't count. Nevrie wears a condom. Romancing Emmy or encountering Kiro seems to be your best bet. Uveto used to be bad too, but there have been more opportunities added.
 
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If you're not opposed to lactation, you can restore your own Energy out of combat via Hand Milk, if you have milk in a certain range. If you have too much, you don't benefit.

Do you know the range or where on the github it would be?
 

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Do you know the range or where on the github it would be?
There was a post somewhere on the forum that gave the range. You could try searching for that. It was in one of the character building threads, I think. I've yet to find it in the code, myself.
Edit: There's this thread. Started by the same forum member, no less.

I just know that 14000 - 35000 mLs (normal Milk, Honey apparently restores more) is enough to go from 0 to 128 (133-5 for orgasm).

It's also enough to go from 33 to 103 with 'Sore' debuff (1/2 Energy regen). So, 140?

I wonder if having multiple rows affects the 'boobgasm' threshold. Is it milk total, or milk/row?
 
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Do you know the range or where on the github it would be?
The milkturbation() function in /includes/masturbation.as. The ranges are milk quantity =< 1,000 mL and 1,600 mL < milk quantity =< 20,000 mL, and a breast size of at least 5 is also required.
I wonder if having multiple rows affects the 'boobgasm' threshold. Is it milk total, or milk/row?
Milk total (higher = more likely), whether or not Steele is Treated (guaranteed if they are), and whether Steele's Lust is at least 33 (won't orgasm if not, even if Treated) (though that last one might have been removed in the most recent patch).
 

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Milk total (higher = more likely), whether or not Steele is Treated (guaranteed if they are), and whether Steele's Lust is at least 33 (won't orgasm if not, even if Treated) (though that last one might have been removed in the most recent patch).
I phrased it poorly. What I meant was, there's an upper bound where you don't get any energy back at all. I was wondering what that was.
 
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Over 20000 mLs doesn’t give you any energy. There’s also another bracket in there somewhere where you don’t get energy.
 

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Goo-Creature with Goo-Core for some mature stat-buffs should be a obvious choice. I mean, 70 intelligence Tech Specialist, and 70 willpower to boast. At least if I remember it right...
 

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Goo-Creature with Goo-Core for some mature stat-buffs should be a obvious choice. I mean, 70 intelligence Tech Specialist, and 70 willpower to boast. At least if I remember it right...
I don't believe it can overcap you over your max. If it can then I definitely had a bug when I tried it out.
 
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