Things that are either extremely unlikely or impossible to happen in CoC 2

[Falken_Moonlight]

I wanted to make this post to put things we either heard from the Devs themselves or simply implied about stuff that will never be added to the game.
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We will never leave the frost marches, as in we will never visit the Old country or Cait’s homeland

Ryn will never have a vagina.

You will never sleep with Garth or Gweyr.

You will never bed someone blood related.

There will never be an option to give Quinn that pity fuck with Kiyoko that he talked about (not sure who would give it to him anyway)

the power of friendship is nonexistent, looking at you every JRPG ever.

there will never be any sort of Time travel or alternate reality hopping.

nothing in Space. That’s for another game.

(if someone could also add things that I missed I’d appreciate it as I’m sure that there’s more)

 

[TheShepard256]

We'll never be anywhere near the power levels of the Seven, let alone be able to overthrow/challenge them in any capacity.

Or have any tech more advanced than an oversized crossbow; iron-working is considered the peak of technology.

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

We'll never be anywhere near the power levels of the Seven, let alone be able to overthrow/challenge them in any capacity.

Waaaaaaat?
Not even in some variations of ending. Like post game epilogue? High fantasy RPG without obtaining some kind godhood?
My power fantasy kidney hurts!

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

Also about never ever:
No sex for us with Ogrish, River, Sanders and Ivris (well except that cuckold dream with Sugo... Savin WTF? It's a big middle finger and a shout of "FUCK YOU!" right in the face of all the horny alchemist fans that it's not even funny!
Oh and no dom rout for Evelyn and Lyla.
ANd we never be able to pitch Aurera.

 

[Greyfox643]

There will never be a Living True Dragon in the game, that is native to the world. No, Alieh doesn't count.

Ashe will never be a light weapon (I'll go cry into my dawnsword/ashe copium now)

Kiyoko will never WANT to interact with other companions.

Floofrot will never be cured, or purged.

The Champion will never be able to utilize the information of "The Truth" (Convocation of Mirrors) to power themselves up.

Evelyn will never be a companion (I think it was even stated that we are at companion cap for the game)

 

[Emerald]

and Ivris (well except that cuckold dream with Sugo... Savin WTF? It's a big middle finger and a shout of "FUCK YOU!" right in the face of all the horny alchemist fans that it's not even funny!

Didn't Bubble write that because he shipped them back then?
Also as an og horny alchemist fan myself, I knew Ivris will never be sexable and learned to live with it, plus it's a dream so it's not real

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

Also as an og horny alchemist fan myself, I knew Ivris will never be sexable and learned to live with it

Truth be told, after Champion turned Hawkethorne into the de facto sex capital of the Marshes (seriously, you can't go anywhere without fucking someone, sex gym, temple brothel, tavern is a natural love hotel, etc.) the "We made a number of characters unsexable so as not to overload the starting location of a porn game with this very porn content, wo" kind of excuse just looks like a ridiculous taunt! It's like sometimes OC's creators consider them their pretty daughters and are afraid some strange dude is going to fuck them. Or something like that.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

It's like sometimes OC's creators consider them their pretty daughters and are afraid some strange dude is going to fuck them. Or something like that.

think its the other way around, they just wanted plain/boring/grounded-on-reality NPCs to be a vehicle for game mechanics and plot device
then they gave them some personality so they arent literally boring

personaly i think having someone you cant fuck means the writers have to create different interactions, personalities and resolutions for characters
which is nice to take a break/contrast from the usual "everyone is down to fuck and be sexy/horny" day to day of the marches

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

think its the other way around, they just wanted plain/boring/grounded-on-reality NPCs to be a vehicle for game mechanics and plot device
then they gave them some personality so they arent literally boring

personalyi think having someone you cant fuck means the writers have to create different interactions, personalities and resolutions for characters
which is nice to take a break/contrast from the usual "everyone is down to fuck and be sexy/horny" day to day of the marches

I honestly can't imagine a better way to reveal a plain/boring/grounded-on-reality character better than showing what he does in bed.
I just refuse to believe that adding sex can damage a character, it's ridiculous! We're in a game that positions itself as a embodiment of fetishes and debauchery. In my native language, there's a adage that says "you can't spoil the oatmeal with more butter."(Or something like that, I'm not sure about the exact translation of the meaning.)

Also never ever able assert dominance on the Brint when you try have sex for the first time! Let us tame a bull, we all know what a bitch he is inside anyway!

 

[QuedzaDrake]

I honestly can't imagine a better way to reveal a plain/boring/grounded-on-reality character better than showing what he does in bed.

while i think that's fun...

I just refuse to believe that adding sex can damage a character, it's ridiculous! We're in a game that positions itself as a embodiment of fetishes and debauchery. In my native language, there's a adage that says "you can't spoil the oatmeal with more butter."(Or something like that, I'm not sure about the exact translation of the meaning.)

i dont think this is fun... i just feel it lacks contrast, like taking a break from the horny and remembering what not having sex is like... (wow i just roasted myself)
going full-throttle and having too much of anything just makes things samey/bland or one-noted, which again, is just my view

Also never ever able assert dominance on the Brint when you try have sex for the first time! Let us tame a bull, we all know what a bitch he is inside anyway!

OH HELL YEAH BROTHER
while i think the first time wouldn't be a good moment i also think that can work and is the type of debauchery that would makes the game more fun

 

[Boshe]

MAUS

 

[valk42]

Kiyoko divorce, something I unironically want

 

[Boshe]

why divorce, when you can not marry

 

[Falken_Moonlight]

Kiyoko divorce, something I unironically want

Ok on that one I’m glad that it’s on this thread.
You can just load an old save file and just never pick up the orb if you want tho

 

[valk42]

yes but my longplay is married to her and i think kinu is neat and my dumb ass married her before it became clear she was an abusive mother

 

[PalletTown]

Certain fetishes and sex acts have flat out bans in COC II.

 

[Verro]

there will never be any sort of Time travel or alternate reality hopping.

Isn't this technically in the game, where a few TiTs characters show up in the Old Forest during Halloween?

 

[TheShepard256]

Waaaaaaat?
Not even in some variations of ending. Like post game epilogue? High fantasy RPG without obtaining some kind godhood?
My power fantasy kidney hurts!

Nope; CoC2 is explicitly meant to not be a power fantasy on the PC's part, and never being able to rival/challenge the Seven is part of that. Getting the truth out of one of them in the Convocation of Mirrors is probably the closest we'll ever get to that.

Isn't this technically in the game, where a few TiTs characters show up in the Old Forest during Halloween?

Yes, in an April Fool's event (not Halloween), but that's been explicitly stated to be non-canon.

 

[SomeNobody]

Nope; CoC2 is explicitly meant to not be a power fantasy on the PC's part

This has always been a nonsensical statement on the part of the dev staff.
All its resulted in is a story that is alot more schizophrenic on how important the player character is, or an excuse for someone like Bubblelord to come along and make the power fantasy for himself and his additions to the game instead.

Infact would go a step further and say inserting D&D-inspired 'gods' into a Corruption of Champion sequel was a serious mistake, especially when one writer wants to bring back a god from the previous game just to have them job like a loser to his favoured fox people (and was even planning on having Kiyoko absorb his power to boot).
The whole thing already with making a twisted clone of an existing character from CoC1 but instead of just a fencing rogue whose greatest sin is that he's less charming than he thinks he is and funds an orphanage with his stolen goods this one being a deranged rapist who gets off on murdering children is pretty psychotic to do.

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

Nope; CoC2 is explicitly meant to not be a power fantasy on the PC's part, and never being able to rival/challenge the Seven is part of that. Getting the truth out of one of them in the Convocation of Mirrors is probably the closest we'll ever get to that.

Okay, one more time then, what real threat to the world does Kass pose if she wishes to corrupt the entire world, but there's not one, but as many as seven beings of unstoppable power that could destroy her in the blink of an eye? Since we've never gotten even close to a fraction of their power, and the Champion is supposed to have to defeat Kass in battle, well at least in at one of the possible plot paths. Or am I misunderstanding something and the game creators doesn't suggest the possibility of gaining victories by combat on Kass in principle? Are we forever out of her league too?

 

[CroqueMonsieur]

Okay, one more time then, what real threat to the world does Kass pose if she wishes to corrupt the entire world, but there's not one, but as many as seven beings of unstoppable power that could destroy her in the blink of an eye?

If i interpreted Yusra's talk scenes correctly, the real threat Kas represents is the ripple effect she could cause in the future. The seven, as powerful as they may be, aren't omniscient, and any mishandling of the crisis on their part could have unintended consequences in the future.

Also, as shown with Nareva and Lumia, the seven aren't infallible; if you truly can't accept their reasoning, you can choose to interpret it as them "being in the process of making a mistake."

Are we forever out of her league too?

I don't think so, it'd be a pretty hard sell to make the fight - and by extension, the entire adventure - against her completely hopeless. The main story line just hasn't reached "the turning tide" portion, yet.

 

[Dude_with_bad_english]

If i interpreted Yusra's talk scenes correctly, the real threat Kas represents is the ripple effect she could cause in the future. The seven, as powerful as they may be, aren't omniscient, and any mishandeling of the crisis on their part could have unintended consequences in the future.

Also, as shown with Nareva and Lumia, the seven aren't infallible; if you truly can't accept their reasoning, you can choose to interpret it as them "being in the process of making a mistake."

So they just incompetent beings of tromendous power, who can't see An obvious global problem that needs to be urgently addressed. Because they are subject to their passions, prejudices, pride or they just don't care right now.
Typical humanized ancient gods, I can work with that. As always the problem of the gods is a mortal's task.

 

[CroqueMonsieur]

So they just incompetent beings of tromendous power, who can't see An obvious global problem that needs to be urgently addressed.

Not entirely true, Yusra also mentions that a crusading force is on the way to the frost marches, with him being sent ahead as a scout.

So they are addressing it, just not with immediate results; and because the entire game canonically takes place within the span of... 4 months? The champion will very likely deal with the brunt of the crisis before their arrival.

It's also implied they're deliberately holding back to see where Kasyrra's little "project" might go, their reasons and level of altruism as of yet unknown.

 

[Loveless]

So they just incompetent beings of tromendous power, who can't see An obvious global problem that needs to be urgently addressed. Because they are subject to their passions, prejudices, pride or they just don't care right now.
Typical humanized ancient gods, I can work with that. As always the problem of the gods is a mortal's task.

I think this is a Kas problem instead of a Seven one. That woman has enough plot armor to put her in Villain Sue territory tbh, even though I like her quite a bit.

 

[Falken_Moonlight]

[…]because the entire game canonically takes place within the span of... 4 months?

me who is on day 589 of walking back and forth between Kiyoko’s home and the Kurokawa Den waiting for the Khor minus to be updated

 

[Savin]

Are we forever out of her league too?

You can ALREADY beat her in combat. While we'll constantly tune her Winter City fight's difficulty upwards until we reach the endgame (and she gets her final, final-boss-stats, at which point I'll probably also write a new version of the WC Kas-Defeat), she'll always technically be beatable right then and there if you grind/powergame hard enough, and she'll certainly be beatable by basically any player when the actual Final Boss Battle occurs at game's end.

 

[Falken_Moonlight]

[…] she'll certainly be beatable by basically any player when the actual Final Boss Battle occurs at game's end.

Out of curiosity, when we get to that point, we will be able see to continue to free roam the lands or will it just be a black screen with “congrats you win! Game over!” Type?

 

[Savin]

we will be able see to continue to free roam the lands or will it just be a black screen with “congrats you win! Game over!” Type?

There will not be post-game free roaming, no. Our current plan is to do Fallout-style ending slides about the major characters and settlements, rather than just a CoC1-style GAME OVER screen.

 

[Alypia]

If i interpreted Yusra's talk scenes correctly, the real threat Kas represents is the ripple effect she could cause in the future. The seven, as powerful as they may be, aren't omniscient, and any mishandling of the crisis on their part could have unintended consequences in the future.

Yusra isn't the only southern paladin who addresses this, either.

 

[Verro]

Yes, in an April Fool's event (not Halloween), but that's been explicitly stated to be non-canon.

It's still there was mostly my point. Barring what Patreon just won't allow, it means scenes like sleeping with Gweyr as an example, could be a thing as long as they're presented to be non-canon. Like a dream scene or something.

That's my take anyway.